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James Franco Admitted To University Of Houston Ph.D. Program

Sorry, I'm new to Misplaced Pages, but can someone add the fact that James Franco has been admitted to the University Of Houston Ph.D. Program? Here is a reference: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/21/james-franco-houston_n_852348.html. He is also listed in the Creative Writing Program's newsletter at the following link: http://www.class.uh.edu/cwp/__docs/2010Newsletter.pdf. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan249 (talk • contribs) 03:42, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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The article's very close to GA, but here are a few pointers:

• he was elected by his senior class as the boy with the "best smile" - "the student"
  • Replaced. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• He was subsequently cast as title role in director Mark Rydell's 2001 TV biopic James Dean - "the title role"
  • Hope I got it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• How does ref 14 support the statement "The role brought Franco much critical acclaim"? There is no credibility in one single source that he earned "much critical acclaim".
  • I think maybe removing the "critical acclaim" sentence would be best to do, cause right now it sorta sounds like POV. Thought? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I think that'd probably be best, instead of quibbling over citations. —97198 talk 06:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Has been removed. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• as well as nominated for an Emmy Award and a Screen Actors Guild Award - "as well as being"?
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• Link Spider-Man (the comic or the character) after "the film version of..."
  • I think I got it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• Franco was cast in Michael Caton-Jones' drama City by the Sea. Both Spider-Man (2002) and Spider-Man 2 (2004) were very well-received critically and commercially. - both these sentences seem to be stuck in irrelevantly. The first means nothing by itself; there is no indication of relation to the events at the time, like "the next year" or "in 2008" (just examples). The second sentence also means nothing standing alone; it indicates no relation to Franco whatsoever. Maybe it'd be better before the first mentioned sentence, when Spider-Man is being discussed?
  • I think I got it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• Art — painting in particular — is a talent Franco developed - no spaces between emdashes
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• "Fool's Gold" & "Camille" link to a dab pages
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• Ref 34 - link/italicise "Los Angeles Times"
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

That's about it - the article will be on hold for a week so good luck with making changes until then. —97198 talk 10:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, awesome, I'll add the article to WP:GA. —97198 talk 06:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the review. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

NYU?

On tonight's Saturday Night live, Franco said he was attending Columbia. Any sources to explain why this articl3 says NYU? Corvus cornix_talk 06:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Viral videos "not important"

I'd like to discuss returning my paragraph on JF's viral videos. They were removed for not being "important," but his comedy videos have hundreds of thousands of views and are famous in their own right. If JF's bio is going to include his painting, which I believe few fans care about, then shouldn't this bio at least mention his videos? Some of them are produced exclusively for Funny Or Die, which is an official entertainment and comedy site. The Knocked Up "firing" was created by Judd Apatow, was a viral sensation, and has over half a million views.

Am I wrong? Any support for this? It seems strange to err on the side of NOT providing information when the subject in question is - to my mind, at least - quite significant and well-known.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 22:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

• No one has objected in a week, so I've restored the paragraph.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 00:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Note: A link to YouTube violates copyrighted material, so don't add it, per here. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The Misplaced Pages copyrights page does not mention YouTube, nor does it include the term "video." Further, the works in question were created for the internet and linking to them does not, in any sense, constitute a violation of copyright. There are links to YouTube throughout Misplaced Pages and I find it strange that this particular instance would be flagged. While this matter is pending, I am restoring the deleted sentence.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 05:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, what importance does your recent addition of that video have towards his career? If you must know, Misplaced Pages isn't a site to carry trivial facts, but you just main points. Also, you may see other articles that have YouTube links, the thing is that this article is a Good article, and should be maintained a Good article. The articles you've seen with the YouTube links, are probably not Good articles. If you see here, you'll see that the expected criteria for a Good article is that "it addresses the main aspects of the topic" and "it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail", exactly what I'm pointing out with the YouTube video link. Final point, is YouTube behind the video of Franco and that Hollywood tribute? If not, then it violates linking to copyrighted videos; "However, if you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work." --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I maintain that James Franco's viral videos are as significant as, if not more significant than, his painting. A Google search of "james franco" "funny or die" brings up 581,000 results. "James Franco" "painting" brings up under 72,000. It is my belief, and I understand that this may be subjective, that fans of James Franco, particularly younger fans, know him for his viral videos as much as for his "legitimate" work, and certainly far more than this painting, which is given four sentences in this article.

As to whether YouTube owns the copyright on a video, I can only answer that the video in question is meant to be a viral video, and by definition, any distribution is not only legal but actually encouraged. The first sentence in Misplaced Pages's entry on viral videos states: "A viral video is a video clip that gains widespread popularity through the process of Internet sharing, typically through email or Instant messaging, blogs and other media sharing websites." In addition, you may notice that the video, which appears to be available in its entirety on YouTube, does not show a copyright mark at its beginning or end.

I hope this addresses some of your concerns.

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 18:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

You bring up the point that the videos are important, because his fans recognize him? Doesn't make sense. So what? The painting was something that he did during his time in college, thus belonging in the PL section. You say that it is your belief he's famous because of these videos, that seems to be your point-of-view, which quite frankly isn't allowed in articles. Still, you haven't brought up a point as to how the videos are important. Specifically, the Hollywood tribute. If it were like Paris Hilton mocking John McCain in the Funny or Die.com video, since people wound up recognizing that Hilton is not your typical "dumb blonde", as she "responded" back to McCain's ad, and the fact that it attracted media attention, I would see the significance. Now, the tribute, don't see how that's "important" to Franco's article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe James Franco is famous because of his viral videos, but his viral videos are famous and deserve mention. I suppose they could live in their own "James Franco's viral videos" entry or perhaps in the "List of Internet Phenomena" entry. By parodying himself and his industry, he has made himself more accessible and relatable to his fans than, say, Paul Rudd, another of the Judd Apatow ensemble. And yes, I think that adds to his fame.

If I can't convince you that viral videos are important in their own right, we may be at an impasse. I can only recommend that you read the Misplaced Pages article on the subject and perhaps research Lonely Girl, Chocolate Rain, the trailer for "Shining" (no "The), Leroy Jenkins, and the Star Wars kid. Viral videos are a pop culture phenomenon on par with TV shows.

For example, Chocolate Rain has almost 31 million views on YouTube; According to Nielsen, 1.72 million people watched "Everybody Hates Chris" on Friday, November 7th: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/11/08/friday-nielsen-ratings-cbs-makes-a-night-out-of-it/7832. Thus, As many people have watched one viral video as will watch an entire season of a sitcom produced by Chris Rock on a major TV network.

The reason I am trying to include James Franco's current viral video is just that; it's his current video making the rounds, with great mystery surrounding what he's promoting (an upcoming film, one assumes) and who is behind the video (again, suspicion falls on Judd Apatow). Obviously Misplaced Pages does not shy away from covering ongoing TV shows, sports seasons, and space missions, so I see no reason not to include it. It may not be important yet, but all of his other videos have become famous, so is it wrong to assume that this one will, too?

It seems that I'm advocating for more information, while you are arguing for less. You may think the extra information is trivial; I think his painting is trivial. Perhaps we should delete both sections?

Westcoastbrainiac (talk) 06:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

The Lead

I edited the intro (lead) and it was reversed by ThinkBlue, so I figured we could discuss it here. My beef with the intro to this article is that it contains exact sentences from the Career section, and is far too detailed for the lead. A reader doesn't need to get a plot description of a movie in the lead section for an actor. Also, this intro contains nearly a full flimography for the actor. I'm all for a concise intro on pages for actors/directors/musicians. We don't need a complete list (with blue-links) in the first paragraph. Honestly, unless a person fought in World War II, it shouldn't be linked in their lead. And if the sentences in the lead are simply lists of all the movies and television shows Mr. Franco has starred in, it makes it difficult to read. The lead for an actor should list a few roles that they are most famous for, and let the character descriptions and plot summaries remain where they belong, in the body of the article. Peabody80 (talk) 15:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. The intro should be brief, not thorough, and pithy, not indigestible.

First Film

Hello,

Just a bit of information for you on James Franco ... I distributed his first film "If Tomorrow Comes" Gerritt Steenhagen was the Producer and Director.

My company then was RGH Lions Share Pictures

Gloria Morrison 323-333-6111 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.129.204 (talk) 13:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

What Race is he?

I know he's an American but are his ancestor's Spaniard or Mexican? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faradism (talk • contribs) 01:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

His father is Swedish and Portuguese (hence the surname), his mother Russian Jewish. This is in the article. His race is caucasian. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Flaws

Does this guy have any flaws? Because either that or him being humble are the two ways to reach people and gain more fans. Even I could nit pick a flaw and ask why he didn't do acting school and university school at age 18 instead of 28 or so. However, the main point is why would males like this guy whereas females might like someone who is flawless... males might need to like him because he is also humble or he can be related to as a male. TY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.69.9 (talk) 01:44, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Physically? No. Acting-wise? Yes. He's horrible at it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 (talk) 14:12, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Saturday Night

The article says

Franco produced and directed a documentary titled Saturday Night documenting a week in the production of an episode of SNL.

but there's no mention of the documentary in the filmography. 184.153.110.113 (talk) 19:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Green Hornet

Does anyone know of a credible reference that confirms he played Danny "Crystal" Clear? 65.102.211.54 (talk) 05:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Commencement speaker error...

"He was selected as the commencement speaker, the youngest, at his alma mater, UCLA, on Friday, June 12, 2009. On June 3, 2009, a press release announced Franco's cancellation as UCLA's commencement speaker due to a scheduling conflict, making it the second year in a row..."

The way this is written it sounds like he was selected to speak on the 12th, which clearly isn't the case - that's the date of the ceremony itself (and nine days after his cancellation, heh). Also, the source given for this is useless: a link to the Daily Bruin's homepage rather than the specific article. I'm fixing both issues. 98.254.42.152 (talk) 14:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

extremely pretentious but workaholic

There were an article of some psychologist, maybe his past psychologist, OR maybe a professor describing him as extremely pretentious. This is important because he himself, as view on multiple aspects, does not seem pretentious. I mean pretentious in a way that he thinks he is super special so says a psychologist or is it a professor? Either way, I also read from the some article and person that he is a workaholic and hence, that is why he gains good and stays ahead in all around productivity. SOMEONE PLEASE FIND THE ARTICLE. I KNOW KNOW I READ IT. 96.247.79.87 (talk) 03:29, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Franco is an absolute phony. A sense of inferiority drives him. His publicist(s) and other supporters have spent a lot of time crafting the most flattering wiki page of any I have ever seen...not a single blot on his record despite great criticism. He is neither a great actor, nor an intellectual. He's completely fake and it is transparent to anyone who follows him closely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.25.20 (talk) 23:09, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

"Unsigned," your entry is an example of such raging, rampant,unsupported, and (on the face of it) envious POV that I'm surprised that it wasn't instantly removed. Personally I think there's ample evidence that Franco is an actor with serious gifts, not only in the showstopping performances like "127 Hours" and "James Dean" but in the obscure indies like "Camille". As for his pursuing a dizzying variety of cultural and educational projects, he may be overdoing it a little, but his wish to live an intellectual and artistic life is laudatory, if anything. You say he's driven by an inferiority complex? I think this is true of almost every actor, male or female, who ever lived. Younggoldchip (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Bibliography

Now that he is a writer he will inevitably need a bibliography, right? Why isn't there one already?Kansaikiwi (talk) 01:19, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

There's the "Selected works" section. I'll add the Palo Alto stories book. Dawnseeker2000 01:33, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, Misplaced Pages is not intended to be a repository for primary sources of information (such as publications by the subject of an article). If a person publishes something, and that something gets attention of the "world", then it will be reviewed and discussed by others who will then become secondary sources of information and it is those analyses which will warrant inclusion in an Misplaced Pages article... Not so much a bibliography of the article's subject's work (which may or not warrant any attention). What I am getting at is just because such works exist does not mean they belong listed in a Misplaced Pages article, even if they are the works of a notable person (and even if that person is notable for having written them, which I am not at all certain Franco is yet). KDS4444 17:44, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

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At the end of Early Life and Family section there is this sentence:

While working at the establishment, for his acting classes, he would practice accents on costumers.

It should be customers instead of costumers

Akaminsky3 (talk) 03:35, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. --NeilN 03:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

main picture

The main picture is awful. Just saying.

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WHY ALL THE UNSIGNED NEGATIVE POSTS?

Why be afraid to sign your Misplaced Pages name to your opinions of the subject? About the worst that can happen is that someone will disagree with you. And possibly prove you wrong.

Hmmm...I seem to have answered my own question. Younggoldchip (talk) 16:46, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

How about some clean-up ???

I think this article needs some serious clean-up. He is only 34 years old. I do not think it necessary to describe every little thing he has ever done. There are major actors who are much more accomplished and their bios are much less descriptive which is fine.

For example : the following is a paragraph in the article

He was subsequently cast as the title role in director Mark Rydell's 2001 TV biographical film James Dean. To immerse himself in the role, Franco went from being a non-smoker to smoking two packs of cigarettes a day, dyed his dark brown hair blond, and learned to ride a motorcycle as well as play guitar and the bongos. To have a greater understanding of Dean, Franco spent hours with two of Dean's associates. Other research included reading books on Dean and studying his movies. While filming James Dean, the actor, to get into character, cut off communication with his family and friends, as well as his then-girlfriend. "It was a very lonely existence," he notes. "If I wasn't on a set, I was watching James Dean. That was my whole thinking. James Dean. James Dean." Despite already being a fan of Dean, Franco feared he might be typecast if he'd captured the actor too convincingly. Ken Tucker of Entertainment Weekly wrote: "Franco could have walked through the role and done a passable Dean, but instead gets under the skin of this insecure, rootless young man." He received a Golden Globe Award and nominations for an Emmy Award and a Screen Actors Guild Award (SAG).

Do you really need a whole paragraph to describe his role and preparation for his James Dean movie? I don't think so. All of the paragraphs in the article have too much indepth description and definitely an overabundance of quotes by Franco that I think are completely unnecessary. The article as written is very tedious reading. Mylittlezach (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Too much of this article reads like someone's obsessive concern with detailing every moment of this man's life for no other reason than a drive to dwell on it. There is far too much fluff and it gets in the way of the material that really matters, which is not quite so much as some may try to suggest there is. KDS4444 17:48, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Blood Meridian film adaptation

Has anyone commented in a significant source on whether the film should be made? I'm looking for something like my forum post called "Please Mr. Franco, don't shoot "Blood Meridian" except that is a forum post so we obviously can't use it here. Have any significant film/literature critics commented? 175.38.205.106 (talk) 04:42, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

The "Fucking James Franco" Fan-fic

Are we still pretending this never happened? Franco read it, acknowledged it, and it prompted a back-and-forth that went viral. --2600:100F:B106:84F3:0:46:E42F:CB01 (talk) 07:04, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:American Jews

Regarding this categorisation, please see Talk:List of Jewish actors#James Franco. 84.203.43.181 (talk) 23:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

From The Boston Globe, 2009: "After the ceremony, the actor said the bar mitzvah was "actually really touching. I'm Jewish, my mother's Jewish, but I wasn't raised Jewish. I guess I wasn't a man until tonight."" All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

BTW, though this other reference is not Franco, but Franco's mother, I did find it interesting: "BF: My kids know that I’m Jewish; they know they’re Jewish." All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:48, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Why is Jewish hyperethnocentrism "interesting"? I don't see this emphasis on ethnicity {or religion if we want to pretend "Jewish" is 'just a religion'} for ANY other group. It's not a strength of wikipedia.

50.136.53.238 (talk) 04:48, 21 March 2014 (UTC)ned

Adjunct professor status

Citation 4 does not support the statement that he is currently Adjunct at UCLA. The UCLA's English Department's faculty pages does not list him as a professor or even a lecturer. However, he is listed as a Visiting Assistant Professor in the School of Theater, Film, and Television. TFT page: http://www.tft.ucla.edu/2013/02/james-franco/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neighboc (talk • contribs) 02:02, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

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The Filmography section contains many citation needed tags, most of them added by User:Tenebrae back in February. Anyways, this article fails GA criterion 2b, which requires citations for "contentious material relating to living persons". I will wait a week before closing this reassessment so editors can have the opportunity to fix these issues.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

"Contentious" is a bit of a stretch for a list of films imo, but I digress. The result of 10 minutes on google: all now cited. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 17:28, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Nice job. The article looks okay now. I'm willing to close this reassessment if you don't have anything to add.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:49, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

All looks good on this end. NiciVampireHeart 20:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Result: Kept. --FutureTrillionaire (talk) 00:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Are you sure he's a PhD candidate and not still just a PhD student?

The lead says specifically PhD candidate, and this phrase is often used wrong. PhD candidate does not mean the same thing as PhD student. A PhD candidate is specifically someone who has completed all the course work of a PhD program and is waiting on the approval of his dissertation/thesis, not just someone enrolled in a PhD program. Every source listed in the article just says he's a PhD student and I can't find any information saying he's finished all the course credits of his PhD program. The lead should be changed to say he's enrolled in a PhD program unless you can find a specific source regarding the amount of coursework he's completed.173.56.23.222 (talk) 03:23, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. This distinction is not trivial and a claim of Ph.D. candidacy is one that requires a viable source in order to stand on its own. KDS4444 17:52, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

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Acting career 2008-2010: Please change the "$57.5 million" to "$60.7 million" in the sentence "To date, 127 Hours is one of his most well-reviewed movies and was also a commercial success, earning $57.5 million against an $18 million budget.". Refer reference 1. of the Misplaced Pages page of the movie 127 Hours.

Acting career 2011-present: Please change the "$90 million budgeted" to "$93 million budgeted" in the sentence "In May 2010, he was cast to star in Rupert Wyatt's $90 million budgeted Rise of the Planet of the Apes, a reboot of the Planet of the Apes series which was released on August 5." Refer reference 1. of the Misplaced Pages page of the movie Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

Du LeCram (talk) 20:36, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done. References verified, numbers changed. — Reatlas (talk) 03:20, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Please change "These arrests led to him briefly becoming a ward of the state." to "These arrests led to his briefly becoming a ward of the state." because the sentence requires a possessive pronoun.

Rose Parsons (talk) 02:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks! --ElHef (Meep?) 03:18, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Personal life - controversy. Really necessary?

An entire paragraph in the personal life section is dedicated to the controversy, but i really don't believe it needs to be or should be included in the article. Francos actions were not illegal, the controversy itself lasted for only a few days and wasn't really that big of a deal in the longer run. I believe that the incident is not notable enough to be mentioned on here, especially not dedicating over half the personal life section towards. Thehack771 (talk) 03:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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James franco has won the award for 'best bed selfies' in the 2012 Movie Weeklys award giving ceremony. Alliegreen65 (talk) 10:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} 11:48, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Controversies

Recently, Franco has been involved with multiple eyebrow-raising events, especially over the internet. Should't these be added? --GouramiWatcher 12:54, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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