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| I'm thinking about taking ] to FAC. It's GA but I'm not even quite to PR stage yet, more asking if the topic is suitable and such. It's a BLP on a young woman (20-something) and I would value your opinions on the talkpage there. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:59, 4 August 2014 (UTC) | I'm thinking about taking ] to FAC. It's GA but I'm not even quite to PR stage yet, more asking if the topic is suitable and such. It's a BLP on a young woman (20-something) and I would value your opinions on the talkpage there. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:59, 4 August 2014 (UTC) | ||
| : You're missing the fun at ]. And the semi-annual "polish" push on the older articles also. All depends on mother's days - today is a "my legs won't work" day. (Yesterday they were perfectly fine). We'll see what new fun she comes up with tomorrow ... it's always a new exciting excuse! (I'll try to look at the article at some point. Don't be afraid to ping me again). ] - ] 21:33, 4 August 2014 (UTC) | : You're missing the fun at ]. And the semi-annual "polish" push on the older articles also. All depends on mother's days - today is a "my legs won't work" day. (Yesterday they were perfectly fine). We'll see what new fun she comes up with tomorrow ... it's always a new exciting excuse! (I'll try to look at the article at some point. Don't be afraid to ping me again). ] - ] 21:33, 4 August 2014 (UTC) | ||
| ::Having too much fun at ANI this week, heh. JLAN and I actually agree on something, it's been great fun! ]<sup>]</sup> 22:07, 4 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, Ealdgyth. I'm sure you know what I meant to do with that edit, so could you please teach me the best way to do it? Each wiki is different in that particular aspect, unfortunately. Should I use a wikisource link? A template? After more than 2000 translations, I'm pretty sure that external links are, by far, the most common way to quote the Bible here though... Thank you in advance. José Luiz 00:48, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- See WP:External links#Important points to remember #2 where its stated that "External links should not normally be used in the body of an article." I also have two other concerns with that edit - one - if the source being quoted doesn't give the chapter and verse (and it's unlikely that it does since seems to be a quote direct from Cuthbert), then adding to the quote the verse number is original research. Two, the MOS frowns on linking within quotations - see Misplaced Pages:Manual of style#Quotations the section "Linking" where it's stated that "As much as possible, avoid linking from within quotes, which may clutter the quotation, violate the principle of leaving quotations unchanged, and mislead or confuse the reader." Ealdgyth - Talk 08:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Ok. As tiresome as it may be just to make a point, let me try one more time. I'm not trying to quote anything or anyone; Cuthbert said Bede was doing it in the quote reproduced in the article ("And he used to repeat that sentence from St. Paul "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God") and what I am really trying to do is clarify to the reader (most likely someone not as knowledgeable in this as you are) what sentence " used to repeat... from St. Paul". As per OR concerns, what do you think of The Wanderer: Elegies, Epics, Riddles? I think it's not that difficult to find more scholars who made the association for the exact same reason using JSTOR for instance. Thank you. José Luiz 21:53, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Unless the quotation (which starts "And he used to repeat..") also has that citation inserted in it, it is not correct to insert it. We do not insert stuff not in the quotation - which implies that the original source of the quotation said something. Quotations must be quoted exactly without extraneous information (I would prefer to remove the links to St Paul, but that's not as big a deal as inserting something not in the original). Ealdgyth - Talk 22:08, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Pardon me for jumping in. José Luiz, I would suggest that you add a note, using the {{efn}} template, that gives this information. It's the sort of thing a reader might be curious about, but it should not be inserted into the quote itself, and I don't think it's necessary to have it in the main text. I'd suggest adding the note after the citation at the end of the verse. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:21, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Unless the quotation (which starts "And he used to repeat..") also has that citation inserted in it, it is not correct to insert it. We do not insert stuff not in the quotation - which implies that the original source of the quotation said something. Quotations must be quoted exactly without extraneous information (I would prefer to remove the links to St Paul, but that's not as big a deal as inserting something not in the original). Ealdgyth - Talk 22:08, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Ok. As tiresome as it may be just to make a point, let me try one more time. I'm not trying to quote anything or anyone; Cuthbert said Bede was doing it in the quote reproduced in the article ("And he used to repeat that sentence from St. Paul "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God") and what I am really trying to do is clarify to the reader (most likely someone not as knowledgeable in this as you are) what sentence " used to repeat... from St. Paul". As per OR concerns, what do you think of The Wanderer: Elegies, Epics, Riddles? I think it's not that difficult to find more scholars who made the association for the exact same reason using JSTOR for instance. Thank you. José Luiz 21:53, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Here we go again
Another RM discussion at Talk:Mustang_horse. Montanabw 21:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- I just explained (again), mentioned waste of time before ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
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Could really use some help with the latest pile-on over there by someone who questions the lead... The naming and capitalization stuff can just play itself out, but this latest one is in need of some eduction. Montanabw 07:09, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry about my edit to Richard Barre. Somehow I missed the note and I assumed that the fact had simply been missed.--Auric talk 00:00, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- No worries. If the book on the green children wasn't so famous, I'd not even mention the speculations ... but... Ealdgyth - Talk 00:04, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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I'm thinking about taking Rosie Napravnik to FAC. It's GA but I'm not even quite to PR stage yet, more asking if the topic is suitable and such. It's a BLP on a young woman (20-something) and I would value your opinions on the talkpage there. Montanabw 04:59, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- You're missing the fun at Talk:Stigand. And the semi-annual "polish" push on the older articles also. All depends on mother's days - today is a "my legs won't work" day. (Yesterday they were perfectly fine). We'll see what new fun she comes up with tomorrow ... it's always a new exciting excuse! (I'll try to look at the article at some point. Don't be afraid to ping me again). Ealdgyth - Talk 21:33, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Having too much fun at ANI this week, heh. JLAN and I actually agree on something, it's been great fun! Montanabw 22:07, 4 August 2014 (UTC)