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There is a proposal to add a short paragraph to the ] section of the No personal attacks policy page. The discussion is ]. Your participation is welcome. ] (]) 01:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC) There is a proposal to add a short paragraph to the ] section of the No personal attacks policy page. The discussion is ]. Your participation is welcome. ] (]) 01:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

:Also, WP:NPA does not detail the offense of attacking generalised groups, such as insulting diasporas, terrorist organisations, governmental organisations etc. to which attacking behaviour inevitably results a personalised effect anyway, i.e., if you are mouthing off to those effects, you are going to upset someone on the personal level giving an equal situation. So I've tried to write something that explains that sentiment with the intention of suggesting a change to NPA. If some of you literaticians think you'd know how to rewrite it and make a page of it, ]. It's probably one of those obvious overlooked bits, the sentiment is in practice, but it is not clearly defined, and there is no reason why it should not be... It's an attack with a personal effect, except the personalised effect of a general attack can be spread equally over a crowd, and so on... <font color="green" size="2" face="Impact">~ ].].]</font> 12:36, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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GOCE at Wikimania 2014 in London

Guild of Copyeditors qr code

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Bridges#Leaflet_for_Wikiproject_Bridges_at_Wikimania_2014 explains about leaflets for WikiProjects at Wikimania 2014. We are way to late to have a flyer made for us by this project, but perhaps some clever/artistic GOCE member could create one for me to use at Wikimania 2014. We need to recruit more copyeditors, and this is a real chance to do it.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:01, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

That's a really good idea, @Dthomsen8:. Anyone up for this? What are the deadline and the project brief? TechSpec? Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:28, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
prefer August 6, start of the hackathon. See the other leaflets at the link above, and do likewise. Quick is better than fancy. GOCE has logos. Say contact USER talk:DTHOMSEN8 on en.Misplaced Pages. Maybe by August 7 I will be able to set a meetup, maybe for dinner.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
@Dthomsen8: I can whip something up in Illustrator/Photoshop pretty quickly. What format do you want this in? SVG? PNG? PDF?  Philg88  09:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
And to be going on with here is a shiny new QR code, which links to the project page.  Philg88  09:28, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
@Dthomsen8, I've made a flyer and emailed a link to you. If you have problems downloading it (the first e-mail has a bad link), let me know and I'll post it here. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
/Beautiful flyer, wonderful text, but it should have my name as contact for anyone at Wikimania 2014.--DThomsen8 (talk) 18:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
OK I'll do that tonight; also I'll put the shortened url on there. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:13, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
OK. So, Dthomsen8, how did it go? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Cleaning up our project pages

As I said in my June election pledge, I'm planning to copy-edit and clean up some of our Project pages between now and the end of the year. For a project that prides itself on the quality of its copy-edits, I think some of our pages are woefully confusing. Obviously they're the work of multiple editors and have become cluttered over the years; now is as good a time as any for dusting out the electronic cobwebs!

I'll start with the drive page, which I think needs clearer, more concise instructions. I've copied it into my user space here. Please feel free to comment; either here or on its talk page. I'll require the approval of at least two coordinators before I move it into project space.

Are there any GOCE Project pages you think need particular attention? Please list them below in this section and I'll work through them one-by-one. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:43, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

The page I have envisioned making into a much better tool is the Task List. I have not had the energy to take it on, but I envision a step-by-step guide explaining exactly which pages need to be edited in order to open a blitz, close a blitz, open a drive, close a drive, and calculate and distribute barnstars. This would include instructions on creating and distributing newsletters, updating the various status pages and tables as well as the "current blitz/drive" tabs. There are a lot of little steps to opening a drive, for example, and it would be good to have a solid reference for how to do it.
If you're not interested in taking that on, focus on what interests you. I have your sandbox on my watchlist, so I'll keep an eye on changes happening there. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:10, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes both have Instructions for coordinators sections at the very bottom. It might be a good idea to centralise this information, though. I think we sometimes used to forget they were there :) --Stfg (talk) 08:32, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Some of the drive and blitz coordinator instructions (notifying the Signpost, posting on the reward board and the community bulletin board) are, I think, either obsolete (I don't think the Signpost promotes drives any more) or—given our recent QC problems—inadvisable. All the best, Miniapolis 13:20, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
While we're at it, I have a draft of an SVG version of the GOCE logo kicking around. Apparently it is on some sort of priority list for conversion. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philg88 (talkcontribs) 14:39, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions all; I'm certainly interested in getting as many of our pages as I can cleaned up / copy-edited. I'll start with the drive page as I've already coped that to my user space, and I'd prefer to tackle one page at a time, but I can make a "to do list" in my user space. If anyone else is interested in taking these on, please feel free to do so. Phil, thanks for doing the draft. If you'd like to upload it somewhere I'm sure we can discuss changing from the current PNG version, but I'm giving a non-comment comment at the moment; sorry. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:06, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

My cleaned-up version of the bi-monthly drive page is here; please feel free to do any further work you think is necessary. I've tried to make the instructions clearer and more concise, and I've juggled the layout somewhat. I've populated the page with old data to show how it would look if implemented. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks good—less cluttered and less intimidating to new copyeditors. Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis 13:25, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Drives main page

I've copied the Drives main page to User:Baffle gab1978/Sandbox2 for editing; you can use the talk page there to make page-specific comments. Note though that it'll be deleted if and when the result is copied into project space. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:57, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Blitz main page

I've replaced the above with the blitz main page in User:Baffle gab1978/Sandbox. I've copied relevant text from the new version of the drives main page and am editing as relevant the blitzes. Please feel free to check and comment upon my editing; it should be ready to copy over in a few days from now. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:17, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Barnstar Award usage?

Hello. Here's a question about the usage of the Copyeditors Barnstar Award image. Is it common for team members to give themselves an award? I was surprised by the edit here, which seems a little unusual to me. However, I don't know the conventions for this project. Thx! jxm (talk) 21:20, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

That particular edit looks like someone found something pretty and pinned it onto his/her user page. I wouldn't give it a second thought. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:34, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Bregant

Please help me: I created the article Bregant for explanation for members of a definite family like in German and Italian Wiki. Now you want me to do something, what I do not understand. Perhaps you can give me a hint. --Hamilkar1893 (talk) 10:49, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

@Hamilkar1893: I've fixed up that page for you. You don't need to do anything else to it. Do you intend to do any more work on Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Katharina Bregant? Do you intend to create an article about Ernst? --Stfg (talk) 11:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, the article about Ernst and Katalin are already existig in German Wiki. Unlike the Generals i do not know, if the other three article are interesting for the english version of Wiki. Perhaps you can help--Hamilkar1893 (talk) 05:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Proposed addition to "Avoiding personal attacks"

There is a proposal to add a short paragraph to the "Avoiding personal attacks" section of the No personal attacks policy page. The discussion is Proposed addition to "Avoiding personal attacks". Your participation is welcome. Lightbreather (talk) 01:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Also, WP:NPA does not detail the offense of attacking generalised groups, such as insulting diasporas, terrorist organisations, governmental organisations etc. to which attacking behaviour inevitably results a personalised effect anyway, i.e., if you are mouthing off to those effects, you are going to upset someone on the personal level giving an equal situation. So I've tried to write something that explains that sentiment with the intention of suggesting a change to NPA. If some of you literaticians think you'd know how to rewrite it and make a page of it, User:RTG/General attacks. It's probably one of those obvious overlooked bits, the sentiment is in practice, but it is not clearly defined, and there is no reason why it should not be... It's an attack with a personal effect, except the personalised effect of a general attack can be spread equally over a crowd, and so on... ~ R.T.G 12:36, 17 September 2014 (UTC)