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Sorry

I really didn't mean to remove your comment on Talk:Zoe Quinn, what happened was I rollbacked, and while the rollback went through hit 'edit' with my middle click button to open in a new tab, thinking that rollback was -that- quick to post a dummy edit apologizing. Again, really sorry and I didn't mean to aggravate or remove your comment. Tutelary (talk) 21:32, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

No worries then.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:33, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

I would really like to personally thank you for always being on the lookout for users that want to make an issue about Hong Kong. Don't give up! Staglit (talk) 20:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	It's hard to edit the same section, even at different paragraphs - both my edits conflicted with yours (the first one had me disoriented for a few seconds, as I was trying to insert Quinn as well in that paragraph). Thanks for restoring the last one! Diego (talk) 17:29, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

GamerGate edit 17:54

Hey Ryulong, just noticed https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=GamerGate&diff=625840756&oldid=625840394. While I understand your reasoning - due to the misandrogy allegations by gaming media and mass-media, isn't it slightly relevant? I realize this is a bit of a grey zone though. Cheers. MicBenSte (talk) 18:21, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Her gender is important to the whole debate but not to where we have to label her as female when we can just use gendered pronouns.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:57, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Might be wrong of me, but I got a belly laugh out of your edit summary. :) Dreadstar ☥ 18:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Edit conflicts are annoying and humorous.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

The Fine Young Capitalists

I semi-protected but there may still be some BLP in there. See Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#The Fine Young Capitalists. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 07:08, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 16:40, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Re your edit here, there's this. Dreadstar ☥ 23:00, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I thought this was the other guy when I saw the orange bar.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

<sigh>, I'm always being mistaken for another. Usually this guy - don't know how they make that connection.... :) Dreadstar ☥ 23:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Well usually when I get an orange bar someone's mad at me for reverting them.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:05, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Civility

Please be WP:CIVIL. This is unacceptable behavior; insulting people is not okay. Titanium Dragon (talk) 04:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Are you sure that's the right link?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:06, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Just to note that you are being a bit strong in your counter replies, though not past any ANI-interference line. Yes, it is a touchy subject, yes there are those outside WP that are trying to affect it in ways policy can't, but you can still keep the article in policy compliance with a bit more decorum. You don't need to heat up the discussion more than it already is. --MASEM (t) 01:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

It has been weeks of outside influence at this point, though.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:27, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

In related news, I received an email from Jimbo which contained three swears.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:49, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Kakuritsu

格率 (part of Parasyte anime title) doesn't mean probability;

1. JMdictDB entry
2. Japanese Misplaced Pages entry.

Raamin (talk) 12:45, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Somehow that came up in my original translation work.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 15:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Controversial edits at Gamergate controversy

Ryu, I'm issuing reminders to all involved about the revert warring at Gamergate controversy that started up again almost as soon as I unprotected the article. I don't want to pursue blocks (or to restore full-protection either). I have asked Diego to revert himself in the spirit of WP:BURDEN; please continue working together on the talk page.--Cúchullain /c 14:46, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

K.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 16:35, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Reverts

You're getting awfully close to 3RR on the GamerGate article. Be cautious in that. Tutelary (talk) 22:34, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Part of it was an edit conflict though.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

You've now passed it by removing the vivian image 4 times, and this is not an execptional case of 3RR involving NFCC. --MASEM (t) 23:40, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

It does fail NFCC though.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:31, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

It seems you could use a dose of Wikilove, hope this helps.

Diego (talk) 10:43, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Ryulong, please keep calm and WP:DISENGAGE if you need it. This is the kind of emotional outbursts that don't help convince anyone at the "other side" and shouldn't happen within the talk page. I've collapsed it per NOTFORUM, you may consider moving it to someone's talk page to allow others to reply. Diego (talk) 10:43, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

How am I supposed to keep calm when I'm being blamed again for being contacted offsite or following links posted onsite? This is all insane.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 11:00, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

You could take a voluntary WP:WIKIBREAK or wiki holiday, which is a venerable way of letting things cool off; or focus on discussing the specifics of content being added or removed from the article. It's only natural that if you comment on someone's behavior, they'll comment back on yours; if you stick to the specifics of words appearing in main space, the more personal aspects around you should wear off. Diego (talk) 11:25, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello

Just wanted to say that regardless of our disagreements, I respect you

3O on Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon (live-action series)

Yes, as soon as George also paraphrases his argument I will re-read the discussion and provide my opinion. The discussion was long and after reading it I wanted a brief summary of where exactly we stand now. Thank you. --AmritasyaPutra 16:55, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Ryukyuan languages

Hello. I think that your reversions of User:Nanshu's editions cause a loss to development of Ryukyuan languages' articles. Why do you completely revert Nanshu's editions although he indicate the sources?--Kyoww (talk) 02:07, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Because his additions add fringe commentary about how there are more languages than mainstream linguistics studies consider. There are discussions all over Misplaced Pages on this.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:28, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Did he really create all those redirects? For now I've fixed Kunigami language and most of Okinawan languages and tagged "Northern Okinawan language" for deletion. However, his pet article Amami–Okinawan languages (which should be moved to Northern Ryukyuan languages) would be difficult to clean up even if he left it alone. I'm also considering writing Southern Ryukyuan languages. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 03:02, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I've reverted him again. If someone wants to refer me back so be it. I'll just create AFDs when I come back from my trip.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 06:29, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I've started an AfD draft. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 19:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

You should prepare one for the other languages he created pages for.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:24, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I think that Yoron language and Okinoerabu language are precious editions... I also regard Nanshu's editions include problems as you said, but it is not better to revert his editions wholesale.--Kyoww (talk) 06:49, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Yoron might have something to stand on its own with but his other edits (particularly his renaming of a whole language just to get it away from verbiage that gives it a native name) is disingenuous.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 07:05, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Gamergate controversy

I generally have quite a bit of leeway with this, but you need to drop the profanity out of the language your using on the talk page. Using the f word while others are trying to discuss a solution isn't helpful to resolving the dispute and is becoming disruptive and incivil. Please stop. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Fine. Also, that guy you blocked isn't a sock.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 15:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Superfly templates

Why did you revert my changes? A main template and a songs template are extremely standard for musicians, especially ones as prolific as Superfly who have so many articles on songs. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:04, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

I just don't think it's necessary to split the content up like that. It's common but not 100% necessary.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 07:45, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

There are currently 22 Superfly songs with articles at Misplaced Pages, it's getting a bit large for the main template. I've merged the new songs-style template as a child section of the main one, as a compromise. --Prosperosity (talk) 09:19, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Well I just figure it's not like MISIA who's been around for a while and has too many singles for a template, or various Western artists who have so many more singles than Superfly. Also, it's still a band and not a solo singer.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 12:40, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

It's a musical project with only one person, the borders are a little fuzzy! --Prosperosity (talk) 13:05, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

It was a band but the second member is just writing the songs (or has been, I'm not 100% sure anymore). Also, are we going to write something on the new single Ai ni Karada whatever?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:21, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

You can, if you'd like! It's already charted on Billboard so there aren't any notability issues from it being too early. I'm a bit busy with uni, but I might make one for Bi-Li-Li Emotion later. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:32, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Well I'm busy trying to deal with Vongfong delaying all of my flights. Whenever you can get to it is fine. I think we don't have to worry about copyright on the digital single cover for Ai whatever karada blah blah because of its simplicity.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Yurukyara article

Why would the Yurukyara article turn into a redirect if it's an article in the German, Hungarian and Japanese Wikipedias? I think it's a distinctive mascot category with its own culture, supported by many sources out there. TheGGoose (talk) 16:16, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Because it's horribly written, mostly unsourced, vaguely written, and just not a very good article.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 16:21, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't see any mention of Yurukyara or even Japan's mascots in the mascot article. The article could have been improved instead. Maybe I can do it by starting it small akin to the German article, and at least expand it, or rewrite and keep portions of the article if sources exist for them. The German and Japanese Wikipedias have two different articles on Mascots and Yurukyara. You said in the edit summary that the reason for redirecting is that both are about the same subject, but you stated here that it's because the article is poor. There are several articles of Yurukyara mascots in the English Misplaced Pages, but I believe a Yurukyara article has to unify them more. TheGGoose (talk) 16:34, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

That is because the "yuru-chara" is just a Japanese mascot character. Just because there are several articles on these characters on the English Misplaced Pages does not mean we need to define it, particularly in a way that's terribly written, not in the format of any actual Misplaced Pages articles, and that has an unnecessary focus on the financial aspects.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 17:26, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Japan has a large mascot field, with what I believe has a higher proportion of mascot use to firms and public bodies than in other countries. Yuru-kyara is a big term in that field in Japan, and these mascots are cared differently from western ones. There's plenty of events that are dedicated to them (with available sources), and they're even ranked by popularity in an annual competition. I do not believe the quality of the article is an argument against its standing, as it can be rewritten in order to ease your concerns. Does it appear that yuru-kyara overlaps with the kawaii article? TheGGoose (talk) 18:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

You are free to make an article on the subject (although I think "Yuru-chara" is better) but the one that was there was just not very good.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:56, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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