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| ::No, No no, i refuse to let you go. P123ct1 also mentioned leaving and it didn't happen lol. be well. | ::No, No no, i refuse to let you go. P123ct1 also mentioned leaving and it didn't happen lol. be well. | ||
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| ==October 2014== | |||
| Hello again, Worldedixor. I'm sorry this input is a little belated, but I've only just had a chance to take a look at , and I'm a little shocked at your posts as regards P123ct1. If you have really left, as per above, please feel free to disregard these remarks, and I apologize for bothering you. But if you ''are'' going to post again (after all, you have indeed been "stating more than once" over the past four or five days that you've left, and then each time returned for further angry comment), then please read it carefully. (Sorry it's so long.) | |||
| Going by your input on ANI, it seems you care nothing for P123ct1's olive branch on this page (comments such as ), which she extended despite your attacks and . You seem to take every opportunity to drag her in at the ANI thread, whether or not she has anything to do with the issue at hand. You accuse her in passing of ganging up with Technophant (plus perhaps others — it's not entirely clear) against GregKaye, "most likely via secret e-mails against Gregkaye". You simply don't get to air scandalous suspicions like that without evidence. | |||
| I'm also concerned about the ] that you "present to the closing admin" on ANI, such as complaining that P123ct1 changed their comment "after I, another editor commented on it, something that is not permitted by policy". Yes, that's sort of against policy (or, well, actually against a guideline), but like all policies and guidelines, ] is not meant to be used for playing gotcha. The guideline suggests quite mildly that "If anyone has already replied to or quoted the original comment, consider whether the edit could affect the interpretation of the replies…" In this case it couldn't. Another one of the same hue: "P123ct1 has changed the order of Gregkaye's comment in an ANI without his permission. This is neither an attack nor a grudge. This is a statement of a verifiable fact of P123ct1's conduct." Altering the order of the posts didn't matter either; there was no agenda; P123ct1 simply put them in chronological order. You seem to be signposting such grudgeposts, almost humorously, with comments like "this is neither an attack nor a grudge," suggesting you might be aware that they ''look'' like attacks and grudges. Yes, they do. The impression is that you've been combing through P123's edits to find something, however trivial, that can be complained about, however implausibly. Apparently you think your collection of finds constitutes "a verifiable pattern of your conduct in this ANI", and you resent P123ct1 not being sanctioned for them. I'm afraid that shows you as completely out of touch with what "conduct", never mind "policy violations", actually means on Misplaced Pages. Or, again, look at this "'''Important Observation'''" about another supposed policy violation. What policy is that, the policy against accidental formatting mistakes? | |||
| Please note that I don't intend this post as an analysis of the issues raised in the ANI thread in toto; they're beyond me, and, as an outsider, I can only hazard that it looks like you, GregKaye and Technophant had better take them to dispute resolution rather than slug it out on ANI. Anyway, my concern is with your hounding of P123ct1, who you can't seem to resist dragging in if you see the slightest opening for it. Stop that before you're blocked. | |||
| You'll remember how I warned you recently not to put back the personal attacks on your userpage. You haven't done so, and I appreciate it; thank you. However, taking your anger with P123ct1 to other arenas, such as ANI, and hounding them there isn't acceptable either, so I suppose I'd better give you a more all-encompassing warning this time. '''Don't attack P123ct1 or anybody else in any way, or hound them with petty complaints''', or you may be blocked. ] | ] 19:13, 25 October 2014 (UTC). | |||
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صديقنا
حبيبي, I really appreciate your support at the recent AN/I. I am not in a position to judge previous involvement but I would ask that you consider the extent to which continued confrontation with P123ct1 is warranted. In IMHO I believe I have seen issues in both camps mixed in with a whole load of evidence of considerable editing strength. I am sure that you have seen related comment on my talk page and hope that all there is good. Gregkaye ✍♪ 17:33, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Gregkaye thank you mate. Before I wipe this out, I think you deserve a response. Remember that I have recused myself and withdrawn from this (not out of weakness). I no longer participate in that article or in the ANI. If you are a good judge of character and you take the time to pay attention to details, you will be able to judge for yourself who, after I backed off, is "still" engaging in "stirring the pot" and "continued confrontation". Let's say that I am enjoying life to the fullest away from a computer screen and that's enough happiness for me. I am leaving Misplaced Pages behind... and Misplaced Pages loses another editor for reasons I stated more than once. Have a good day...Worldedixor (talk) 17:58, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- No, No no, i refuse to let you go. P123ct1 also mentioned leaving and it didn't happen lol. be well.
Gregkaye ✍♪ 18:33, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
October 2014
Hello again, Worldedixor. I'm sorry this input is a little belated, but I've only just had a chance to take a look at this ANI thread, and I'm a little shocked at your posts as regards P123ct1. If you have really left, as per above, please feel free to disregard these remarks, and I apologize for bothering you. But if you are going to post again (after all, you have indeed been "stating more than once" over the past four or five days that you've left, and then each time returned for further angry comment), then please read it carefully. (Sorry it's so long.)
Going by your input on ANI, it seems you care nothing for P123ct1's olive branch on this page (comments such as this), which she extended despite your attacks here and here. You seem to take every opportunity to drag her in at the ANI thread, whether or not she has anything to do with the issue at hand. You accuse her in passing of ganging up with Technophant (plus perhaps others — it's not entirely clear) against GregKaye, "most likely via secret e-mails against Gregkaye". You simply don't get to air scandalous suspicions like that without evidence.
I'm also concerned about the policy wonkery that you "present to the closing admin" on ANI, such as complaining that P123ct1 changed their comment "after I, another editor commented on it, something that is not permitted by policy". Yes, that's sort of against policy (or, well, actually against a guideline), but like all policies and guidelines, WP:TALK is not meant to be used for playing gotcha. The guideline suggests quite mildly that "If anyone has already replied to or quoted the original comment, consider whether the edit could affect the interpretation of the replies…" In this case it couldn't. Another one of the same hue: "P123ct1 has changed the order of Gregkaye's comment in an ANI without his permission. This is neither an attack nor a grudge. This is a statement of a verifiable fact of P123ct1's conduct." Altering the order of the posts didn't matter either; there was no agenda; P123ct1 simply put them in chronological order. You seem to be signposting such grudgeposts, almost humorously, with comments like "this is neither an attack nor a grudge," suggesting you might be aware that they look like attacks and grudges. Yes, they do. The impression is that you've been combing through P123's edits to find something, however trivial, that can be complained about, however implausibly. Apparently you think your collection of finds constitutes "a verifiable pattern of your conduct in this ANI", and you resent P123ct1 not being sanctioned for them. I'm afraid that shows you as completely out of touch with what "conduct", never mind "policy violations", actually means on Misplaced Pages. Or, again, look at this "Important Observation" about another supposed policy violation. What policy is that, the policy against accidental formatting mistakes?
Please note that I don't intend this post as an analysis of the issues raised in the ANI thread in toto; they're beyond me, and, as an outsider, I can only hazard that it looks like you, GregKaye and Technophant had better take them to dispute resolution rather than slug it out on ANI. Anyway, my concern is with your hounding of P123ct1, who you can't seem to resist dragging in if you see the slightest opening for it. Stop that before you're blocked.
You'll remember how I warned you recently not to put back the personal attacks on your userpage. You haven't done so, and I appreciate it; thank you. However, taking your anger with P123ct1 to other arenas, such as ANI, and hounding them there isn't acceptable either, so I suppose I'd better give you a more all-encompassing warning this time. Don't attack P123ct1 or anybody else in any way, or hound them with petty complaints, or you may be blocked. Bishonen | talk 19:13, 25 October 2014 (UTC).