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Cedric Gore

If you want to know what to do, just read two or three Misplaced Pages articles and see what's expected of a good article. Also, read WP:N carefully. Hope that helps. --Dweller 20:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't just throw around accusations of racism. The article as it stands is just not good enough. If you improve the article, I'm sure most of those saying "delete" will change their minds. --Dweller 09:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: AfD Cedric Gore

Hi - I think it's best to respond to you here from now on, we don't want to annoy people on the Discussion board too much, they can get cranky if the discussion isn't about the Articles-for-Deletion thing specifically.

But you made some very good points in your reply. I should stress that the guidelines we all currently use for this assessment stuff are not set-in-stone, they're being argued about right now (including us relying too much on Google - see Misplaced Pages talk:Search engine test) by all the users of Misplaced Pages (not just "the admins" - I'm not even an admin, and have only been here quite a short time myself).

You really shouldn't look at it as "us"/"them" against "you" - we're all just editors, including yourself, trying to make this encyclopedia better and hopefully enjoy doing it. So I really encourage you to join in whenever you feel like it in Misplaced Pages, and make new articles on anyone you personally feel is notable enough. If you can make the case for them being in WP, then they belong in WP. Don't be put off just because of this AfD - just go ahead and create them, and see what happens.

You've had a harsh introduction to Misplaced Pages, with having your first article up for deletion. The trouble is, we get companies registering and writing their first article about themselves all the time, and I think the Cedric Gore article was suspected as one of those. Don't take it personally, the guy nominating it is just doing his job.

The usual starting places for new users for "what is Misplaced Pages?" guidance are the Misplaced Pages:Five pillars and what Misplaced Pages is not. You should check these out if you haven't already. They are official policy, and do not get changed very often, although they do have ongoing discussions.

And the "vote" thing on the AfD page isn't a straight vote, it's a consensus thing that is weighed up by an admin at the end of the five days, and you can really make a difference by changing the article based on the comments you get, and making your case in the discussion, which you are already doing. So don't give up hope yet.

BTW, I have been doing a bit of research on Cedric Gore's businesses, particularly the Bandlink stuff, and I hope to be able to add some material that I think will help the article with this AfD, by expanding that part on the product, maybe a paragraph or two. If you wanna make changes to it after it's up there, that's never a problem (a big "rule" about WP is, if you don't think an article is right, change it, there's no one you need to ask permission of first).

And if you do have one or two relevant references on Gore in magazines like Black Enterprise, you must put them in the article, that is definitely classed as a "reliable source" and would help your case. All the sources don't need to be online, they just need to be well-known and detailed enough that someone could go and check them if they had to. If you need help on adding citations for magazines etc., there's info on code and style for this stuff here: Misplaced Pages:Citing sources/example style. Or you can always contact me on my talk page, or post questions on the Talk:Cedric Gore talk page, which I will keep an eye on.

You shouldn't be afraid of expanding the article, just because people were saying it was "like an advert", etc. That was just their first impressions. If you have more material, put it in, and see what happens.

Feel free to contact me on User talk:DaveG12345 if you have any general questions, etc. I'm no expert, but I know bits and pieces. --DaveG12345 00:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I added the new material to the article. It would be nice if you could find some references for the last quotes in the article. After researching the section I did, I am happy to confirm that Mr. Gore is definitely notable in my estimation. :-) --DaveG12345 05:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on "winning" the battle. --Dweller 08:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Personal Attacks on Dr. Condi Rice Talk Page

The vast majority of those atrocities stories from the Superdome turned out to be just simple urban legends. Remember the story about six people dead and stuffed in the ice box, that was repeated over and over again on CNN???? I do. And it was a figment of someone's wild imagination. But what does any of this diatribe from francespeabody have to do with Dr. Rice??? The answer is simple. Not a thing. francespeabody in a racist and ignorant way is calling everyone who does not agree a biased white person, regardless of the fact that I'm not white. Then when I point this out to francespeabody, francespeabody states that he/she does not care that what race I am that as far as francespeabody is concerned I'm just white and my opinion is unimportant. This type of BS argument is NOT winning a friend over here and I'm making my third attempt to settle this peacefully. However, I read any more racial attacks then I going to have to take this to the next level. Seriously, francespeabody, for the third time do NOT refer to anyone else's race again (especially mine). Please, once again, review the Wikipedian rules on personal attacks and abide them. Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks. Please keep your comments and opinions about everyone's race to yourself and do not post it on these talk pages again. Thank you. -----BballJones 20:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

This entire issue being discussed is about Race, thus this section and the ongoing debate here regards views of the black community toward a person they view to be a Race Traitor. In response to this, there has been evidence of arbitrary removal of contributions, the editing of contributions to make it less agressive. The revising of this article to suite a "Happier Gentler" time is plain B.S. I am speaking of your constant revision of history here. I want to have the Black community view known and documented as valid in the black public view.

You don't know when you are being racist yet when I cite one instance (Kanye West's dismissal as "Crazy") then I am being the bad guy. Take this to whatever level you wish to. Does that mean burning a cross on the site? I suggested that if you are a "Non-Black", you will not always understand the common view or even be in a position to be exposed to is as I am however, since you are not in the community either go into the community and find out for yourself, or trust that someone from that community posting public information from Black Leaders, is accurate. The section is called "Criticism" what else needs to be said about the information to be included here. You already painted her a rosy future in the last section so do you think she will ever be hurt for her political actions? Blacks are hurting as well many minorities by her actions today but she won't be subject to them unless she happens to find herself unescorted within the black community. Not that blacks would harm her, I am talking about the police treating her as they treat the rest of us.--Francespeabody 20:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. -Isopropyl 22:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on Condoleezza Rice. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Diffs: -Isopropyl 23:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

• I am trying quite hard to stay out of this particular mess. The edit I made to the Condi Rice article was to remove the word "Basmati" which some anonymous halfwit had added. Frances, I would like you to calm down. You're clearly well-spoken and well-intentioned, but you're going about this the wrong way. One of the key points about Misplaced Pages is that, if something is controversial, everyone has to negotiate until we reach a mutually acceptable way to say the facts. Okay? DS 02:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Clearly they are ganging up to keep the site sanitized. They just started reverting from the beginning, go back and verify that. Clearly Liberals just sit back and let this crap happen to us all the time. I went over to the Democratic candidate and politician sites and they are all full of negative remarks, uncited opinions, and many cases just lies but no one edits the truth into it. The thing that is making me irate here is that absolutely "NO" black opinion is allowed. --Francespeabody 02:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

3rr

You have been blocked for 72hrs for 3rr on Condoleezza Rice. It appears you have made 6 reverts. That's quite excessive.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)