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Text and/or other creative content from this version of The Zeitgeist Movement was copied or moved into Zeitgeist (film series) with this edit on 2 December 2014. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Consolidating

Since several articles are being put into this article page, the new information needs better presentation. Also looking at blocks of un-sourced information, I removed some of that un-sourced possible o.r. information in the newly expanded article. Earl King Jr. (talk) 14:46, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Movement article into movie article

So, the Zeitgeist Movement article was moved into the film article a few days ago, this article. Should we consolidate the information more or is it about the way it should be? Earl King Jr. (talk) 12:53, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

This looks like a copy-paste move. Was attribution made for the previous edits, and where? Elizium23 (talk) 23:36, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

There was a request for comment, which closed a couple of days ago, on the Zeitgeist Movement talk page that overwhelmingly suggested moving The Zeitgeist Movement page into the film article page. Beyond that I don't know. Earl King Jr. (talk) 03:13, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Please read Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages. With this edit you copied in over 8k of text from the other article. But that article has its own edit history with contributors who must, under Misplaced Pages's license, be attributed for their contributions. I will repair this problem now, but please be more careful in the future to always provide attribution. Elizium23 (talk) 05:37, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that and my apologies for not knowing better. Earl King Jr. (talk) 13:06, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

the next step is deleting this page.Encyclopedia-viewer (talk) 00:12, 10 December 2014 (UTC)— Encyclopedia-viewer (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

For what reason? Ian.thomson (talk) 00:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Because zeitgeist is stupid, it lowers wikipeida's standards.Encyclopedia-viewer (talk) 01:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)— Encyclopedia-viewer (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

That's called WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Elizium23 (talk) 05:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I think it's safe to say that bullshit zeitgeist doesn't belong on wikipedia..Encyclopedia-account (talk) 09:14, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Citation needed

In the text it says, "The informal group was founded by and is directed by Peter Joseph." but citation doesn't say anywhere he directs the movement. Is there a reliable source to say he directs the movement? If not, it should not say this. --Melarish (talk) 10:41, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

He invented the term Zeitgeist Movement, he announced the formation of it at the end of one of his movies. He is the ostensible leader. No doubt someone can document that when they get around to it. Problem is that their official FAQ's info. says the so called movement has no leaders, so really you can not win on this type of article. It is all concocted though by Peter Joseph for better or worse. Its pretty obvious without original research that he is the leader, director, spiritual god father... etc. etc. Did you do a search on that? Earl King Jr. (talk) 14:38, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Are you suggesting having unsourced information in the article because you personally think it is obvious? --Melarish (talk) 12:40, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Often lead segments that are obvious do not need citing. Earl King Jr. (talk) 23:58, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The reason lead segments do not always need direct footnotes is because they are supposed to summarize the article, where the references can be found. "Obvious" isn't really a threshold that applies here. Elizium23 (talk) 00:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Peter Joseph is the leader of the Zeitgeist movement. It is his baby. As the leader of the movement and their official unofficial spokesperson he gets to say it is a 'leaderless movement', so do you want to parrot that or do you want to do some research and actually get at what is going on in an encyclopedic fashion? Do you want to quote their FAQ's material like the members of Zeitgeist who repeat what they are told by Peter Joseph because maybe they think he is Guru like or do you want to actually report what is happening in a meaningful way and not an idiosyncratic Zeitgeist presentation? He funds the website. He made the movies. He funds the movies. He collects the donation to his pocket. He announced the 'movement'. He made the plaintive remark that people asked him what to do so he founded the Zeitgeist Movement. Now Zeitgeist members show up and edit war relentlessly for their preferred presentation. Most get blocked after a week or two and then their meat and sock puppets show up. Melarish previously edit warred for the Zeitgeist movements faq's material. Earl King Jr. (talk) 12:48, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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