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The information on Misplaced Pages about Darjeeling and Ghum has major flaws. The language section is utter rubbish. Nobody speaks the languages mentioned there. Only Nepali and English are widely spoken. Bengali is restricted to a small section (government offices that also only when talking with the Bengali bureaucrats and even some of them understand and speak in Nepali). I had edited but some ignorant fool or maybe a propaganda machine has dropped my edited work. Misplaced Pages has lost the trust I had. Subash Ghising according to the wise ass is still in power. Are you in the Stone Age?

December - 2014

Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Ghum, West Bengal. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Misplaced Pages this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Misplaced Pages, as you did at Ghum, West Bengal with this edit, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Bladesmulti (talk) 05:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Bladesmulti, please see the eighth article of the Indian Constitution. Nepali is an official language recognized by the Indian constitution and it is one of the official languages of the Gorkhaland Territorial Administration.

And if you think supplying correct information is disrupting please block me right away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs)

Got any link/citation? Bladesmulti (talk) 05:30, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Indian Constitution

http://lawmin.nic.in/coi/coiason29july08.pdf

Nepali is included as one of the 22 language and Guma is not mentioned. Bladesmulti (talk) 05:53, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

It is the eighth schedule not the eighth article. A small error. Anyway, Ghum is a part of the Darjeeling Municipality.

First of all, Darjeeling is a district in the state of West Bengal. There are four sub-divisions in this district - Darjeeling, Kurseong, Kalimpong and Siliguri. Darjeeling, Kurseong and Kalimpong are in the hills. Kurseong and Kalimpong have some area in the plains as well. These three sub-divisions form another administrative body called the Gorkhaland Territorial Administration the official language of which is Nepali. In fact the North Bengal University has a Nepali Reader.

Ghum is a small town in the Darjeeling sub-division. It also comes under ward number one of the Darjeeling Municipality. The municipality area, in fact, starts from Ghum. So it is a very small town in Darjeeling sub-division of the district (Darjeeling district) (And also a part of the Darjeeling Municipality).

The schedule lists only the languages that are recognized, not the places where they are used.

http://mha.nic.in/hindi/sites/upload_files/mhahindi/files/pdf/Eighth_Schedule.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs)

Citation has no support for Nepali language. Bladesmulti (talk) 06:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

GTA

Do check this as well.

http://www.gta-darjeeling.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs)

Only having a website availiable in Nepali is not enough. Bladesmulti (talk) 06:54, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, I thought you didn't have the information regarding GTA's existence because of which I contributed the link (and it is in English not in Nepali if that is what you mean). Anyway, as far as the language is concerned I have given you the link to the Indian government website. That should be definitive. I have seen articles in Misplaced Pages which have little or no links/citations at all and they are doing fine. Is it the number of links or the credibility of the websites that the links point to that decides whether the information is correct or not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/Nepali_language

Anway, I have some more government websites.

http://www.darjeeling.gov.in/

http://westbengal.gov.in/

If you still think the way you are thinking right now I can do nothing about it.

(There are plenty of other links) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs)

Read Misplaced Pages:Verify, Misplaced Pages:Reliable source. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:16, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Citation

Citation has no support for Nepali language? Don't make me laugh, please. You mean the Indian Constitution does not mention Nepali language? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs)

It is not supporting Nepali language as a major language of Guma. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:16, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

First of all, it is not Guma but Ghum (also Ghoom). As I told you before, the objective of the eighth schedule is to show which languages are recognized. The places that these twenty-two languages are specifically used aren't mentioned. The schedule tells us that these are the official languages of India. That in fact is its sole objective.

It seems you are saying that Ghum is not a part of India. Is it a part of Bangladesh? Well, Darjeeling (and Ghum is a part of Darjeeling) used to be a part of Nepal long time ago and that is the reason why Nepali is still spoken there. When the British left India they left Darjeeling with the Indian Union. Darjeeling along with its residents. You can think of it like this - "The Nepali speaking people migrated to India with their land i.e. Darjeeling of which Ghum is a small part".

The purpose of the schedule is to show that these languages are recognized in India. It isn't its purpose to show which language is spoken in which part of India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs)

"these twenty-two languages are specifically used aren't mentioned", they should. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Darjeeling_district

Just go through the language section of this link. See I don't need to do this but I am. Nobody owns Misplaced Pages. It is an encyclopedia of consensus. You are just a user like me. You don't have special privilege and if you do have then please block me. I don't want to be a part of your lie. I am an ethnic Bengali but have been in Darjeeling for a long time now. I love the people here and know that many lies have been spread about them. You are part of this propaganda for reasons best known to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs)

Official language is only Bengali. Additional language is English and Nepali, but if you look at your changes you will find them to be somewhat different compared to what you are referring here. Bladesmulti (talk) 08:16, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Remember you have inserted all those Tibeto-Burman languages like Kirat, Magar, Khambu and others which aren't spoken at all. People are trying to revive those languages. Handful of people. It is very clearly mentioned in the Misplaced Pages "Darjeeling district" article that more than 50 percent of the people speak Nepali. In fact, in the Darjeeling Hills of which Ghum is an integral part, 100% people speak Nepali. Even the people from Bihari, Marwari, Tibetan and other communities. In Darjeeling Municipality of which Ghum is again a part, one of the official languages is Nepali. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropical sunset (talk • contribs) 08:27, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I have never made any changes to that page before. If 100% people speak Nepali, then why you have no citation for that? Bladesmulti (talk) 08:32, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

You didn't make changes because of which Subash Ghising and his DGAHC was still in power. Subash Ghising has been out of power from 2008. Been more than six years.

It's because of gentlemen like you and your very legalistic, biased and opaque approach why there's so much unrest in the country. Even the eighth schedule and other authentic sources fail to convince you. Have you ever been to Ghum? You don't even know the spelling and you are trying to be an expert. You are trying to treat Ghum as an entity apart from Darjeeling.

You and your infallible Misplaced Pages can kiss my Gorkha loving Bengali ass. Please request someone to block me.