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| ==3RR== | |||
| Poetlister, you have violated 3RR at ]. I'm leaving this warning because I don't know whether you've been warned about it before. If you violate it again, you may be reported and blocked from editing. Please review ]. Many thanks, ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 14:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :Stop leaving personal attacks on my talk page. I had almost no interaction with RachelBrown. As for your reverts, it makes no difference which version you revert to. Undoing another editor's work more than three times in 24 hours is a violation of 3RR, even if you revert to a different version each time. Read the policy. You should either say what your problem is with ] on its talk page and reach a compromise with the other editors on the page, or leave well alone. What you may not do is create POV forks, edit other people's user subspace, or edit war to have draft articles retained in categories. ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 15:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==RFC== | |||
| Hi you may be interested in this: ], ], ], ]. I would appreciate your endorsement of the rfc at ]. Thanks ] 16:04, 10 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi, getting articles locked or nominating them for deletion if they don't get their own way is a regular activity of this user. If you look at ] you'll see that was the first page where the user began to use multiple voting to try and force their own viewpoint, voting 6 times in total. The renominated it in November then requested a deletion review when it was not deleted. ] 16:58, 10 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Not a sock puppet == | |||
| I think that we can be confident of this. I hope that this misunderstanding is reverted shortly. Certainly an indefinite ban for a "suspected" sock puppet is somewhat over the top. ] ] <small>] ] ]</small> 22:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I don't know whether Poetlister is a sockpuppet of ] or not, but I've not seen any discussion about it - please can someone link to the evidence. ] 01:45, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I too am puzzled by this. Poetlister, you can mail me from my User Page. ] 08:12, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Its on the Admin notice board, although to date there is ZERO evidence that they are the same person. No ArbCom, nothing. Extraordinarily suspicious, especially given the circumstances of the block. Would be a questionable decision at the best of times, but when a dispute is in progress, it adds even greater weight. ] ] <small>] ] ]</small> 10:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| And of course, even if they were, given that ] isn't banned, it seems absurd that a sock puppet of a valid account might be banned. If RachelBrown was an indefinitely blocked user, well, fair enough. If RachelBrown was ] for example, sure, then ban sock puppets. But not because of what? Because they voted on the same AFDs 5 times? Even if it were true, it didn't make any difference to anything, so a ban full stop is excessive. ] ] <small>] ] ]</small> 10:33, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :Now, let's ''assume good faith'', all round: there may be a big query, and the alleged sockpuppetry may also be mistaken. I'm not rushing to any conclusions. ] 11:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, I agree that we should assume good faith. I assume that Kat has evidence to substantiate her accusation and can provide it here. Until she does though, I don't see why I shouldn't be assuming good faith on Poetlister's part. It's not actually a policy of Misplaced Pages ''that I know of'' that AGF is suspended when an admin points the finger at an editor. -- Grace Note. | |||
| :::That's interesting circular logic there. So a Wikipedian admin who bans someone due to suspicion in clear violation of ] we are expected to assume good faith that their absence of good faith was reasonable? I am sorry, but that's just going around in circles. ] ] <small>] ] ]</small> 12:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Yes, it is, which is why I've asked Mindspillage (or any of the other admins) who are attacking Poetlister to present evidence here. I'm not surprised they haven't. The administrapo prefers not to explain itself to the hoi polloi in cases like this. An admin has decided Poetlister is to be attacked and that's that. Very disappointing that Misplaced Pages works this way but that's how it is. -- Grace Note. | |||
| ::I should point out to Zordrac also that using a sockpuppet to give the impression of greater support for your position than actually exists is frowned on, and this wouldn't be the first user ID blocked for it. Getting a meatpuppet to vote for your side is not though, curiously enough, even if they show no understanding or particular interest in the issue at hand. -- Grace Note. | |||
| :::If proven, there would need to be an Arbitration Committee decision as to the incident. If one exists, then it should be presented for us to look at. If it was proven through ArbCom that they were a sock puppet, and, furthermore, that the violation was sufficiently significant to warrant an indefinite ban, then there would be no problem. ] ] <small>] ] ]</small> 12:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::::No, there doesn't need to be an arbcom decision. If Mindspillage presents reasonable evidence here, you can decide for yourself. Mindspillage is an editor in good faith. Also, I am sure that if she has made a mistake or has insufficient evidence for it, she'll undo the block. From what I can see, Poetlister wasn't actually doing anything wrong, but some people really don't like socks and spend more time harassing them than they do actually editing the encyclopaedia. -- Grace Note. | |||
| :I have heard from Poetlister offline; who may well leave WP as a result of this. I would need to be convinced that an infinite block was on a sound footing. ] 11:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==unblocking== | |||
| Somone unblock Poetlister. I don't agree with the false accusations that have been made and with this sharade. ] ] 08:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :I would be prepared to unblock Poetlister, on my own initiative. I would however like to see what the principals in this affair have to say on that, first. ] 09:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::Please unblock. I don't agree that someone should be blocked without any ArbCom resolution first. This was too zealous done. Unblock and let Poetlister to defend herself. --] ] 12:09, 28 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Poetry Project == | |||
| Glad to see you back. The ] has recently been flagged as inactive. Perhaps you'd consider joining it? — ] 13:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for the reply ... is there any sort of 'to do' list that you have for poetry, that others could help with? — ] 19:49, 5 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks == | |||
| Hello, | |||
| :Thank you for the correction to the Richard Wilbur article. I was so focused on the placement of birthplace that I missed the 'was' omission. Be healthy. ] 13:47, 3 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Hi== | |||
| Just livened up your page a bit! ] 01:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello :) == | |||
| I've been going around places and looking for relatively new users. I can't believe there are some users I've never seen! Welcome and hello :) — ]]]] 03:37, 9 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm going to second this. ;) —]<font color="green">]</font>] ] 08:58, 9 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: :) — ]]]] 22:36, 10 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Right back at you :) — ]]]] 22:36, 10 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Re:Turkish literature peer review== | |||
| Hello. I've noticed that you have an interest in literature (specifically, poetry), and that is why I am leaving you a message. I have recently entirely rewritten the ] article with a view to getting it up to Featured Article status, and have placed the article up for ]. If you could possibly take the time to look at and review the article, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, thank you for taking the time to read this message. ] 09:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for agreeing to have a look at the article; I greatly appreciate it (especially as it is outside your area—I'm really just looking for a general critical eye from someone who knows literature, of whatever variety, and how a literature article could/should be laid out). Also, I have placed the article up, as a self-nomination, on Misplaced Pages's ] section. Thanks again for agreeing to take a look. ] 12:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Vandalism and barnstars== | |||
| I'm glad you appreciated the barnstar, but I didn't give it to you. My account was used by someone else, and you can blame Mozilla for that. I do, however think that you are deserving of a barnstar anyway because of your numerous edits to literary topics. So I shall award you one: | |||
| The Original Barnstar | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For numerous edits to articles on English poets. ] 08:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Selig Brodetsky== | |||
| Hi there. I've only just seen the article you wrote about Selig Brodetsky. I never met him as he died before I was born, but he was my grandfather, so a huge thanks for writing about him. ]]] 21:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for responding so quickly. I don't think I've ever met David, although I knew his grandfather (?) Leon, and his uncle (?) Jonathan (the chess player). Although I've not seen them for many years. I'm afraid that I failed to inherit Selig's academic genes, but I enjoy reading about his life. ]]] 22:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==a couple of questions== | |||
| So I've just joined the ], and I am in the beginning steps of starting a Poetry portal. I see that you are a supporter of poetry, so if you support the creation of such a portal, please vote for it here: . Also, for articles about particular poems, is it Misplaced Pages policy to have a copy of the poem within the article, or is it considered better to have a link to Wikisource? Thanks alot. ] 03:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==RfA== | |||
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| '''] would like to nominate you to be an administrator.''' Please visit ] to see what this process entails, and then ] to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at ''']'''. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.</div> | |||
| Congratulations, and good luck! ] 12:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| E-mail activated. ] 17:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| You've been nominated, but there's now some stuff you have to fill out at ]. Thanks. ] 13:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry your nomination not only didn't go through, but was closed early. :( ] 02:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Po: A bit of advice. If you want you next RfA to succeed, you might have to spend some time on Misplaced Pages: projects and templates and designing categories and other "process" areas, rather than just on articles. Like you, I prefer to spend 90% of my W-time just on articles so I do not anticipate RfA for myself ever. -- ] 18:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Poetry== | |||
| I wonder if I could draw your attention to some poetry articles I've had a hand in which could benefit from any extra attention: ], ], ], ]. | |||
| Re. RfA, wait 3 months and a lot more edits. 3000+ would be helpful. Participate in ], as it gives a good understanding of what is needed and also makes you think about those requirements to make your own judgement. You can contribute to ] and ], where you can learn about the problems admins have to consider. Vandal fighting is obviously desirable, through ], ] (where there may be nominations for ]) or in my case a long watchlist of articles, and don't forget the test templates on vandal's talk pages. There's ] of course and non-admins can , as well as the other deletion discussions. Otherwise I suggest you just explore different project spaces and find what you enjoy doing. | |||
| ] 05:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Smile! == | |||
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| ]] 02:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC) has smiled at you! Smiles promote ] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{tls|smile}}, {{tls|smile2}} or {{tls|smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing! {{{2|}}} | |||
| </div><!-- Template:smile --> Tyrenius told me a bit about you, and you should realize that there is joy to Wiki. Don't let a few things let you down. Remember, things always find a way to go right. If you need anything feel free to get in touch with me. ]] 02:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==A barnstar for you!== | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For working tirelessly and well on articles about poets and literary figures. ] 13:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| I'd treat you to a choice selection of cream cakes, chocolate eclairs, scones, clotted cream, fruit cake with glaice cherries, and a bottle of claret, but we're not on the same continent. Too bad! ] 13:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==FYI== | |||
| FYI ] 00:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Goldom's RFA thanks == | |||
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| | Thank you for your support on my ], which closed successfully this morning with a result of (53/2/1). I've spent the day trying out the new tools, and trying not to mess things up too badly :). I was quite thrilled with all the support, both from the people I see around every day, as well as many users who I didn't know from before, yet wrote such wonderful things about me. I look forward to helping to serve all of you, and the project. Let me know if there's anything I can help you with. -] ] ] 04:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Another barnstar!== | |||
| Minor Barnstar | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For your tireless copyediting, a barnstar for you: | |||
| :''From one oppressed individual to another'', ] 05:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Carlsbad grimple at DRV== | |||
| Hey, there's a bit of discussion regarding Carlsbad grimple over at ] right now, and we could use your input to clear it up if possible. Thanks! --] <small>]</small> 16:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| So I've apparently used up three reverts on this crazy German anon editor who wants to remove the word "heiress presumptive" because "presumtive" is a German word, but not an English word, or something. So, anyway, German anon has also used three reverts so far, but if she tries again, it'd be great if you could revert it, since I can't. I'm not sure what to do about it - she seems completely immune to reason. And what kind of person decides to edit an article on a specific concern about English usage while admitting that she does not actually speak English well? The whole thing is totally bizarre and incomprehensible to me. ] 15:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == My RfA == | |||
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| | Hello Poetlister. I wanted to thank you with flowers (well, flower) for taking the time to participate in my ], which was successful. I'm very grateful for your gracious support (and even more so to SlimVirgin for vouching for me!). I assure you I'll continue to serve the project to the very best of my ability and strive to use the admin tools in a wise and fair manner. Please do let me know if I can be of assistance and especially if you spot me making an error in future. Many thanks once again. Yours, ]<font color="black">e</font>] 08:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Zachariah== | |||
| Well thank goodness that was caught before the article got deleted. I have been troubled of late by the number of absolutely awful articles on 'slam poets' etc. (regarding which I must agree with ] — the 'death of art'), so I was hunting for more nonsense, since every pseudo-intellectual egotistical twit who ever cornered someone in a grimy pub with his verbal excrement seems to want to write an article about himself on Misplaced Pages. Because my patience is low, I didn't bother checking the edit history, and just assumed the worst — which was an oversight. | |||
| My apologies for any inconvenience/upset caused.] 18:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| This is back up for discussion; since you were integral to the original discussion, having apparent evidence of seeing it across the pond, would you like to comment further? -- '']']'' 21:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == re: ] == | |||
| Good evening. Per the discussion about privacy concerns expressed at ], date of birth should generally not be added to the biographies of living non-public or semi-public figures. So far, that policy has been interpreted fairly strictly with a pretty high bar being set for the definition of "public figures" who are assumed to have given up their rights to privacy. | |||
| By the same token, we should not be adding ] to articles unless we have made the case that the person meets the "public figures" threshold. Otherwise, we're just baiting new users into adding content even though the community has already said that we shouldn't include that particular data point. ] is okay but the exact date is often not. Thanks for your help. ] <small>]</small> 23:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Hollo == | |||
| Mr Hollo wrote in to say that, among other things, his father was almost always referred to by initials, and that he hated being referred to by his full name as he thought it pretentious. Consequently, I have reverted your modification to the article. ] 00:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :That is ] and therefore not quite the ticket for wiki. ] 00:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::On further investigation, I've posted to DS. ] 01:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ] | |||
| Well, I've just done another five minutes reading (and writing) and discover that you've added some dictionary references. Good work! I have created a reference section and put them into it. | |||
| Now if the article is going to stand on its feet, you need to go back to it and actually source all the other facts. The work by Pepys, for example, needs to appear in the references as well. | |||
| And whether or not those various Queens really used the term? How do we know whether they did or not? If you haven't used inline references before, take a look at what I've done in the first paragraph. They then pop up automatically in the references section. | |||
| You might also want to add my blurb about the Dutch Queen and the African queens to the other article as they are already sourced and I created a reference section for that one as well. | |||
| As for my massive changes- nothing had been removed. It was merely hidden so that anyone who wished to edit it (by adding the appropriate references for example) had immediate access to it without searching back through the edit history to find it. | |||
| --] 14:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Messages here?== | |||
| Hi, | |||
| I actually thought about putting the message here after I put it on the other page, but since you had some kind of a template up at that page, I figured that's where you wanted any messages. Won't do it again! ] 22:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == twinkle twinkle little star - what a wonderful world == | |||
| well it wasn't exactly a joke. am I the only one who notice they share the same melody? ] 15:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==re: hello!== | |||
| Thanks for calling my attention to the summary box. I honestly just overlooked it, and if I ever did notice it did not think it was of great importance. I would have otherwise put in a summary for my additions/changes. Is there some way to do that after the fact? Should I do this? | |||
| On another note, I must say your message comes off as a bit condescending. I don't know if it is a form message from some sort of template to send to supposed new users, but it is quite off-putting. I have been contributing to Misplaced Pages for quite some time but have only recently created an account. I am by no means a new user to the site. If in the future you wish to point something out to another user, you may do well to be mindful that trying too hard to not spark annoyance can sometimes do just that. -] 10:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == References == | |||
| Why did you remove part of the standard reference – the editor of the book – from the citation at Brian Jones? --] (]) 13:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, first, because you hadn't corrected a typo, you'd changed the grammatical structure unnecessarily* (why do you claim to have been doing the former?). That wouldn't have been a problem, but secondly, you'd changed the referenced to a non-standard form for absolutely no reason. Yes, of course the reader can click on the link, but citations (per ]) should include the author. They should also include more, but I hadn't got round to adding the other details. --] (]) 19:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::* Do you honestly think that: "Jones' first major collection, ''Poems'' (consisting of his first book, ''The Madman in the Reading Room'' and thirty-seven other poems), was published in 1966, and was successful." is good style? That last three-word phrase is leaden and bathetic. In an article on a poet that's particularly glaring. --] (]) 19:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I missed the floating bracket — sorry. --] (]) 21:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Hi there! == | |||
| Hi! I just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that I responded to your comments on the talk page of ] and re-instated my edits. I re-instated the edits because I felt that I provided adequate information with regards to Heaney identifying as being from Derry. I also wanted to let you know that both you and ] are in violation of the ] policy that Misplaced Pages has. It would be silly for me to block you, considering my own interest in the article, so please just consider this to be a friendly heads-up. Cheers ]] 22:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi again, Poetlister! Sorry about the confusion about 3RR and my confusing you about administrator buttons. Just to re-affirm, I would never use any extra buttons (or even overtly mention my having them, which I guess I did in a confusing way on your talk page) in an article that I was working on. I hope that despite our conflicting views that we'll be able to work towards a solution to this Heaney business and continue to make this article, and others, even better! Cheers ]] 22:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == About that ] article revert you did: == | |||
| I apologize in advance as I don't really know anything about Ms. Duffy's creative output, but is it important to the article to leave the outmoded terminology "American Indian" in vs. what the better contemporary term would be, i.e. "Native American"? I'm not attacking your reversion at all, but it would strike the unknowing, casual Wikibrowser as being a bit un-politically correct to utilize that term. Perhaps maybe the term could be left in quotation marks and there could be an explanation further down that the term is being used in the article for some kind of artistic integrity/consistency. I don't know. What sayeth you? (] 02:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)) | |||
| :: I'm sorry you appeared to take offense at what I stated. I did admit to not being aware of this person's output, so if you, who would naturally be more of an expert than I am on this person, feel that it is necessary to use this term, then so be it. Anyway, I wasn't trying to "censor" so much as correct what appeared to me to be an outdated term to accomodate a modern text. But I understand the necessity of sometimes using those kinds of terms (even if it offends some) to preserve the overall integrity of informative text. One would have a problem talking about ]'s '']'' (which I ''am'' familiar with) otherwise. BTW, I am part ], so I might come across as a bit sensitive about these things. But I'm not. I was just making a correction on what read to me as text written by someone who was a non-NA, who was of a much older generation. (] 20:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC)) | |||
| == About Rachel Brown. == | |||
| I have a question. Why have you been mistaken for ]? She has been inactive on Misplaced Pages for over a year, yet you were blocked for being a sockpuppet. Why do some users think you're a sockpuppet? ] 22:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :No, no, wait, you were blocked about the time she left. Even so, why were you considered a sockpuppet? Looking at the picture on her user page, and the picture on yours, you're two completely different women. You're a more active user now, as well. ] 00:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == 1000 Edits. == | |||
| Congratulations! ] 16:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks. == | |||
| ] Thank you for your support. :) ] 19:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == You Made the list of Misplaced Pages's... == | |||
| Pretiest users!!! Congrats! check out my page ] keep it going! | |||
| ] ] 15:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Congratulations from me, Poetlister. Welcome back. ] 16:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Welcome back, Poetlister! (Edit conflict.) :) ] (] • ]) 16:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Yeah well - you already know I have known you to be a real person for possibly years (ie involvement with WR - dunno how long thats been) - welcome back to acknowledgement from the wiki beuracracy. ]] 16:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Welcome back, Poetlister! @Viridae your account on WR was created 19 May 2007. @FloNight Is it acknowledged that this user was not a sockpuppet of Runcorn? --] (]) 16:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::oH there you - go, nearly a year. And my originals involvement with WR was to set some misrepresentations of policy right I think. So it must have been more like 10 months. Oh well - felt like years. ]] 16:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *Oh, and I'll think you'll like . :) ] 16:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *Welcome back. -- <span style="background:#ffff00;border:2px solid #00bfff;">]</span> 18:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Congratulations, Poetlister! This is great news :) - ] <sup>]</sup> 19:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Congratulations! Welcome back. (No brainer, though - you are a crat on my second favourite project). ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 20:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::I am glad to see your editing privs restored. ++]: ]/] 20:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Welcome back! :) '''<font color="#ff9900">]</font><font color="#ff6699">]</font>''' 22:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *Welcome (back). ] (]) 20:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *Welcome back! :) ''']''' '']'' 04:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Poetlister is innocent == | |||
| The opinions in my essay are mine alone. Poetlister agrees with the general theme, but she did not ask me to publish it, nor do I require her permission to do so. | |||
| * ] | |||
| Enjoy reading. ] (] • ]) 17:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Poetlister is not innocent. The checkuser evidence was overwhelming and damning. She is being unbanned not because we have changed our mind on the original evidence; in fact, we have reviewed it and found it as convincing as ever. Rather, she is being unbanned because we believe in giving users a second chance, and because of her good work on other projects. ] (]:]) 20:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Bullshit - if you accept that she actually is a she - then you have accepted she is not a sockpuppet of runcorn, who is male. Which means she was never a sock and is therefore innocent of all charges. Othwerwise you are still maintaining that this is Runcorn. ]] 00:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::Please, no swearing, please. Be of cheer and be merry. A day of good news only deserves good words :) | |||
| :::I respect English Misplaced Pages Arbcom experience and discretion, as an experienced editor and sister project CU, I learn most of sockpuppet allegations hit the target properly. I just said, discretion, including they now lifted the ban and gave Poetlister a second chance. It is really good of them! Also it is good to hear they respect Poetlister do a lot of good works with which we proudly consider her a great asset. | |||
| :::re: open proxies. As an English Wikiquote CU, I proactively block open proxies, and know our English Misplaced Pages colleagues do the same. So it is also good to hear that Poetlister gave her word not to edit via open proxies anymore. | |||
| :::And last but not least, congrats for restoring your edit right, Poetlister! --] (]) 01:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::Viridae seems to be claiming that Morven holds inconsistent beliefs or is presenting a logically inconsistent position, but that only follows if Morven is incapable of having beliefs different from Viridae, such as that runcorn isn't male. It looks a bit like a case of failing the ]. -- ] (]) 09:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::I wonder if you repeat it often enough, people will come to believe it. -- <span style="background:#ffff00;border:2px solid #00bfff;">]</span> 02:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Welcome back. ] (]) 06:44, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == More info == | |||
| May I suggest good faith, and hold off the arguing a bit. | |||
| (Full comment being drafted, will post soon). ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] | ])</span></sup> 00:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Assuming good faith of all involved would lead to the conclusion that Poetlister is not a sockpuppet and checkusers are mistaken (since 1. it’s extremely unlikely that Poetlister herself would be mistaken about this and 2. people being mistaken in good faith happens all the time, including in groups). | |||
| :Assuming bad faith of someone involved, on the other hand, would likely lead to the conclusion that Poetlister is lying, since that's more likely than a number of checkusers lying (though I'm not entirely clear on how many and which checkusers who have reviewed the evidence support the sockpuppet conclusion and how many and which (if any) checkusers who have reviewed the evidence disagree with that conclusion). However, I think you do have to want someone to be lying in order to get to that conclusion. ] (]) 11:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Checkuser doesn't prove guilt. Though it can in certain cases strongly point ot it. However disregarding the checkuser evidence, had this been a runcorn sock he has kept the pretence up for a hell of a logn time with a hell of a lot of commitment. ]] 13:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I have removed Runcorn from ] - my rationale: If there is only one person behind these accounts, then who is banned? --] (]) 19:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :AFAIK, the official story is still that they were all banned because (when combined) they violated ] so I have reverted the change to WP:BANNED. | |||
| :A new chapter in the story was written when Poetlister was unbanned. The story doesnt need to make perfect sense - this is not a novel; it just needs to be what is right for the project at the time - unbanning Poetlister makes sense. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 00:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Right, but WP:BANNED is for people who are '''presently''' banned, and therefore for there to be an entry on WP:BANNED it must be acknowledged that - if the person operating the "Poetlister" account is (obviously) not banned, that there is someone else who is banned. We block people's sockpuppets without blocking them or creating a WP:BANNED listing all the time. --] (]) 01:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :This the talk page of Poetlister, which is the wrong forum for discussing your edit to WP:BANNED. I have responded to this on ]. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 06:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Congratulations== | |||
| Long time no see...Welcome back. ] (]) 14:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Welcome back. It would seem common sense won out in the long run. <font color="629632">]</font> <sup><font color="7733ff">]</font></sup> 16:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Poetlister, welcome back! I hope this doesn't mean your involvement in other projects will suffer!! :-( ;-) p.s. ] needs some loving! hehe <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 00:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hey Congrats, feels good not to be blocked huh? :D ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">]]</span> 12:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Welcome back, PL. That was quick. In this situation, I'm reminded of the Dickinson poem about truth dazzling gradually. Anyway, best wishes and happy editing, <font color="#0000FF">]</font> 09:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Edits to my talk page == | |||
| I should be grateful if you could please explain the rationale for this edit: . As I was in the middle of an appeal to ArbCom, it was rather assuming the result of that appeal. Thanks.--] (]) 11:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Suggest you not pursue the matter, I did as I do to all banned/indefblocked editors, you just happened to be one, if you're editing rights have been restored, there is obviously nothing more to discuss. And considering you have also been holding an off-wiki grudge against me for the edit, while you clearly know you ''were'' banned (you just happened to get unblocked), discussing the matter with me is not going to get you far anywhere on this encyclopedia. I suggest you move on. — ] 12:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hmmm threats they sure are great fun, especially when uttered when not having to fear retaliation. <s>Quite the macho :)</s> ] (]) 11:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Day Lewis or Day-Lewis == | |||
| Hi. Thanks for the mail. | |||
| If his name was really Day Lewis, don't you think the article on him should be renamed, and the Day-Lewis page turned into a redirect, instead of the present vice-versa situation? That would save you from having to revert people's changes all the time. (You can answer here, I'm watching.) ] (]) 16:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| : It would be a good idea, though I am not going to do it myself at present.--] (]) 12:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| This article contains text of a poem that might belong in Wikisource. If you think so, please copy it there. In general, you should keep an eye on ]. | |||
| Also, your talk page is getting long. Consider ]. Please ask if you want me to help you set up an archive page. ] (] • ]) 13:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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