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The very first link in the diff I gave is: | |||
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/no-problem-obamas-state-dept-spokesperson-is-married-to-romneys-neocon-foreign-policy-adviser | |||
** " the Israel lobby’s role in our politics" | |||
** "All these appointments allow Israel advocates to say to lobbyists and donors: Obama loves Israel, look who he has serving him in these big jobs." | |||
**"Middle East policymaking is now dominated by the Israel lobby and its affiliates. Advocacy of Israeli positions has replaced professional qualifications as the criteria for service." | |||
It is very late and I don't have time to write more. Feel free to copy this partial response. I can write a bit more tomorrow. | |||
] ] 00:39, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== February 2015 == | == February 2015 == | ||
] Please ] other editors, as you did on ]. If you continue, you may be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. '' Don't put words into my mouth, pretending to quote me when you are instead misrepresenting me. See for the infraction.''<!-- Template:uw-npa3 --> ] (]) 00:21, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | ] Please ] other editors, as you did on ]. If you continue, you may be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. '' Don't put words into my mouth, pretending to quote me when you are instead misrepresenting me. See for the infraction.''<!-- Template:uw-npa3 --> ] (]) 00:21, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
:I copied and pasted from the text, giving the diff. Those were your words, and you did change the meaning of the sentence to favor your POV. | |||
:] ] 00:24, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
::So you just remove my quotation of you , which had a link to the full statement? | |||
::Is that allowed? | |||
::How is quoting you (with a diff) a personal attack? | |||
::Have you considered removing your own unsubstantiated allegations? | |||
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"Is a" reminds me to double check the agreement of my subjects and verbs. The name "is a" was not available (because users are called "isa", etc.), so I chose "is not a". is a 00:20, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- I put redirects at user talk:is a and user:is a. is a 11:56, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Stop removing RS-sourced material
You seem to be very familiar with some aspects of the discussions at issue as well as with Wikpedia policies. Have you had an account on Misplaced Pages before?
Do you have a conflict of interest regarding articles related to Robert Kagan and Victoria Nuland?--Ubikwit見学/迷惑 02:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) welcomed me with a helpful list of Misplaced Pages policies, which I have studied. I have seen you having the same discussions about WP:BLP at several pages, so I think that my time is better spent discussing how to improve articles at appropriate talk pages, than typing back and forth with you here. So let's discuss things elsewhere. is a 10:55, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- The "WP:RS says what I want on a BLP" routine does not seem to be getting anywhere, once again, at neoconservatism ( and talk ) and at Victoria Nuland . is a 11:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Ubikwit filed a request for a sock-puppet investigation, accusing me of being a sockpuppet of wixifixer (talk · contribs)/wikifixer and possibly being Robert Kagan himself, and perhaps an IP! This investigation was quickly closed by the clerk Mike V. is a 16:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
February 2015
Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Neoconservatism. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Misplaced Pages this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
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- WP:BLP specifically empowers editors to revert 4+ times, regardless. I see that a study of WP:BLP was recommended when you could not become an administrator, just as VM has requested that the other restorationist read WP:BLP. Given this past, making further suggestions or reminders to you about WP:BLP does not seem an effective use of my time.
- You should read the talk pages of the relevant articles and WP:BLPN to assess consensus.
- is a 16:25, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- A false assertion of BLP problems is not going to stop you from getting blocked for WP:3RR. It might work once but it won't work repeatedly, especially with a high-profile discussion continuing at WP:BLPN. The question here is not one of absolutes; instead it is a fine point of Kagan's own preference versus the rest of the world's labeling of him. Misplaced Pages usually sides with the rest of the world in such cases. Binksternet (talk) 16:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- Given that there is no evidence of Kagan having been a liberal or socialist or social democrat in his biography, nobody who knows anything about neoconservatism can soberly call Kagan a "neoconservative".
- Your words about the rest of the world seems to be made in ignorance of the discussions on talk pages, to which I again refer you. Please post again here only after having read them. is a 17:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- A false assertion of BLP problems is not going to stop you from getting blocked for WP:3RR. It might work once but it won't work repeatedly, especially with a high-profile discussion continuing at WP:BLPN. The question here is not one of absolutes; instead it is a fine point of Kagan's own preference versus the rest of the world's labeling of him. Misplaced Pages usually sides with the rest of the world in such cases. Binksternet (talk) 16:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Clean hands
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- At Robert Kagan, Binksternet truncated "the realist tradition of Hans Morgenthau and Reinhold Niebuhr rather than neoconservativism", omiting "rather than neoconservatism", changing the skeptical writer's point: "Kagan largely eschews neoconservative theology and instead sounds themes reminiscent of the great American realists Hans Morgenthau and Reinhold Niebuhr". With other edits like this, I can understand Binksternet's confession that
I consider myself guilty of putting negative material into articles the topics of which I do not like.
— Binksternet, - is a 23:42, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- At Robert Kagan, Binksternet truncated "the realist tradition of Hans Morgenthau and Reinhold Niebuhr rather than neoconservativism", omiting "rather than neoconservatism", changing the skeptical writer's point: "Kagan largely eschews neoconservative theology and instead sounds themes reminiscent of the great American realists Hans Morgenthau and Reinhold Niebuhr". With other edits like this, I can understand Binksternet's confession that
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For the unimpressed
@Gamaliel: The very first link in the diff I gave is: http://mondoweiss.net/2011/10/no-problem-obamas-state-dept-spokesperson-is-married-to-romneys-neocon-foreign-policy-adviser
- " the Israel lobby’s role in our politics"
- "All these appointments allow Israel advocates to say to lobbyists and donors: Obama loves Israel, look who he has serving him in these big jobs."
- "Middle East policymaking is now dominated by the Israel lobby and its affiliates. Advocacy of Israeli positions has replaced professional qualifications as the criteria for service."
It is very late and I don't have time to write more. Feel free to copy this partial response. I can write a bit more tomorrow. is a 00:39, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
February 2015
Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on WP:ANI. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Don't put words into my mouth, pretending to quote me when you are instead misrepresenting me. See this diff for the infraction. Binksternet (talk) 00:21, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- I copied and pasted from the text, giving the diff. Those were your words, and you did change the meaning of the sentence to favor your POV.
- is a 00:24, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- So you just remove my quotation of you , which had a link to the full statement?
- Is that allowed?
- How is quoting you (with a diff) a personal attack?
- Have you considered removing your own unsubstantiated allegations?
- is a 00:30, 3 February 2015 (UTC)