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List of feminist comic books

I created a List of feminist comic books in tandem with the creation of a stub for Priya's Shakti. Someone has already proposed deleting it, without any discussion. I DEPROD-ed it, but just in case it turns into an AFD, thought I'd place a heads-up here. Lightbreather (talk) 01:09, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I have started a related discussion about Priya's Shakti at RSN.

--Lightbreather (talk) 22:30, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

The problem is that "feminist" is too broad and too subjective a category. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 07:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Canadian MRA group:

• Canadian Association for Equality
• Justin Trottier

Just articles that I think need more people to improve them and to have them on watch lists. The more input the better. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 22:16, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Question at the Village Pump

There is a question at the Village Pump that should be of interest to this group:

Risk in identifying as a woman editor on Misplaced Pages

--Lightbreather (talk) 02:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Breastfeeding has issues

While this might not be at the core of this projects interests I hope some here may be interested in improving the article anyway. I've stripped so much poorly sourced medical content, but even with WT:MED on it it could use some hand getting the advocacy and society portions vetted as well. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 22:09, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Notice and invitation

1. There is a redirect discussion that may be of interest to this group.
2. Have you heard of the Kaffeeklatsch? It is a test area for women to hear and support each other. The idea came about as a result of a discussion at meta regarding my IdeaLab proposal (yet open) for WikiProject Women.

Now that the klatsch has survived an MfD and WMF legal has said that it does not violate the non discrimination policy, I am looking for women editors who might like to join.

Although I have started a couple of discussions, they are not urgent. For now, the "Please introduce yourself" discussion is more important! I want to take it slow at first and build a small group before trying to address heavy topics or come up with big goals. For now, the klatsch is there as a sort of refuge. I hope you will consider joining, and invite other women editors, too, if you wish.

--Lightbreather (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Jacques Rivette

Not sure if this task force has this broad of a scope, but it may be interested in including Jacques Rivette.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 17:40, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Amy Pascal's business strategy to underpay female actors and "blame the victim"

Hello. I am not an expert on feminism, but hopefully some of you are. I was wondering if some of you might be interested in adding a subsection about Amy Pascal underpaying female actors, when she explained, "People want to work for less money, I pay them less money." at a recent Women in the World event. According to ThinkProgress, she blamed the victim even though, women don't have an option to ask for a raise, as Salon explains. I find this problematic because the article has a section saying, "In 2001, Pascal was honored with the Women in Film’s Crystal Award, which recognizes those whose work has helped to expand the role of women in the entertainment industry. Pascal has been included in The Hollywood Reporter’s annual Women in Entertainment Power 100 list and Forbes’ ranking of the World’s 100 Most Powerful Women. As of 2014, she was ranked as the 28th most powerful woman in the world by Forbes, up from 36th in 2013.". Perhaps renaming that section from "Activities and awards" to "Attitudes towards other women" and expanding it with referenced context of her actual business policy would make sense? This is all I've been able to find so far; I expect more analysis will be published in feminist academic journals in the next few months/years.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:02, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Be careful of making direct accusations of wrongdoing and criminal behavior against living people. Sex discrimination is illegal after all. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

It's not an accusation. I linked to articles where she explains it is a conscious business decision on her part to pay female actors less than male actors as a business strategy, to save money. Read the articles. She even said it on tape. I don't think she would say it publicly if it were "criminal."Zigzig20s (talk) 17:28, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

The rewording works for me. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

OK. As I said, I am asking here because I feel we would do with more external editors to expand/improve Pascal's page. Looking forward to reading how some of you think this topic should be covered. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Can we please get some input from you guys on this?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:54, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Feminism in Mexico

Perusing the main page, I saw that Feminism in Mexico was listed in the category of "Pages needing attention" and thought, that perhaps, as I live here, I could add some information. "Pages needing attention" is an understatement. It has only 2 sentences in the entire article, which IMO speaks to "desperate need of attention."

I have been working for several days on creation of the page, but my strong suit is NOT theory. And I while I speak a tiny bit of Spanish, I am not fluent, by any measure. In addition, though I work in human rights with sexual minorities, and can do the section on "Gender Rebels," the section might benefit from someone who is part of that community and not cis. I am working on the history portion but would truly like to have collaborators for overall balance in the page. Anyone interested? It's very definitely a work in progress, no where near ready to "go live" ... but my working draft is here: User:SusunW/Sandbox 2. SusunW (talk) 18:25, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know if I have the time to help but I just wanted to say that the draft is looking excellent, really great work so far! Sam Walton (talk) 18:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I didn't read the article, but the footnoting and sources look excellent. GeorgeLouis (talk) 09:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Ed "Editing Women's Studies" Brochure: Feedback requested

Hello all, Wiki Ed will be distributing a brochure to Women's Studies courses in the USA and Canada that edit Misplaced Pages as part of their classroom assignments. It will also be available on-wiki and as a pdf for anyone to read or use. I'm hoping to get some feedback on the brochure's contents -- if anyone has some time to review it, I've uploaded a Wiki draft here. We're looking to have it ready to print by March 3, so feedback would be most useful before then. Thanks everyone!

Eryk (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

I made some suggested edits. GeorgeLouis (talk) 09:42, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Violence against men (4th nomination)

A heated debate is brewing in this deletion discussion, and a threat to alert WP:Feminism was made. If they felt it necessary to mention in the discussion, clearly there is merit in following through. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.88.120.203 (talk) 06:30, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

This was not a threat, you WP:Single purpose account. I am not involved with WP:Feminism (except for this alert or any alert I make here), but I hate seeing WP:Canvassing that is WP:Disruptive, which is what is going on in this case. A threat would be making clear that I will alert Talk:Men's rights movement/Article probation of this matter, which I might very well do, if no one beats me to it first. Flyer22 (talk) 07:19, 28 February 2015 (UTC)