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Red Dwarf

I see your point of not having several links, but finding the hyperlink to the Sun article is very difficult. I request that you consider at least taking the link away from "solar masses" and putting it under the first Sun, since Solar mass has a link of its own. Jeihot 16:07, 30 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeihot (talk • contribs)

December 2014

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. I noticed that your username, "PM ME URANUS", may not meet Misplaced Pages's username policy because it could be seen as potentially offensive or disruptive. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. Pishcal (talk) 20:02, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree, and unlike Pishcal I am an administrator. PM ME URANUS could very easily be construed as "private message me your anus", so unless you want your inbox filled with bottoms, I'd strongly recommend a username change. In fact, even if you do want to collect pictures of people's posteriors, you still need to get a new username; this one fits the bill as disruptive. User:Space erth, which appears to be the setting for your signature, is not taken, so you could very easily use that. Simply add a request at WP:CHUS (instructions are on the page there; it's very straightforward) and your account can be renamed to match your signature. Yunshui _水 10:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Your name is innapropriate for a project such as this. Could I kindly ask you to change it.Mbcap (talk) 22:04, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, sure. I've posted a request in the changing username page. Sorry for taking this long, I completely forgot I had to change it. PM ME URANUS (talk) 12:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Just a greeting

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Please no hard feelings at the WikiProject Astronomy. After all, it's Christmas. SkyFlubbler (talk) 02:20, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Haha thanks. Those templates are cool, by the way Tetra quark (talk) 02:31, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Cosmology background

Hey there - in reply to this, this is what the page looks like on wider resolutions. If you want to use an image for the background, it would have to be one that can be tiled. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:46, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

What kind of absurd monitor is that? It is way huger than most.

Anyway, it took me a long time to figure out how to add a background (very few other pages have it) and now it is gonna stay. See, the whole point of wikipedia is that it is improved brick by brick. Everyone contributes a little and the result in the end is good. So, if you don't like the background, fix it. Double the image to make it fit. Don't undo what others have built. Thanks Tetra quark (talk) 04:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

It's a normal 15 inch laptop monitor. Most modern monitors are wider.

I appreciate the time you spent on it, but the point is that the layout is still broken. A solid color background is indeed an improvement. Insisting on a broken layout because you spent a lot of time on it isn't constructive. In the meantime, I am trying to figure out how to render the image correctly - but until then, the layout is broken and the image should go. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 05:03, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Relax. Sooner or later someone will fix it. It is not like it hurts to see an image that doesn't fit the box. Going solid black is trivializing.

Anyway, I think I know how to fix that issue. I just can't paste the code here. I've made a revision of the portal. Go see if anything changed for you in your huge monitor Tetra quark (talk) 05:10, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I wish I had a huge monitor. It's a standard 15 inch monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution, I promise ;)

I've expanded the width so that it will be fine up to 2000px, though the image still extends from the bottom too far. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 05:18, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Considering that the portal still doesn't get much traffic anyway, let's leave it this way for a while. I'll summon @Technical 13: here so maybe he can fix that. Hello, Technical 13. The problem is that the image doesn't fill the box in wider monitors. I tried to paste more images in the background to the right by using "div" position:"right" but it didn't work. I hope you can give us a hand Tetra quark (talk) 05:40, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

r/Cosmology and r/Wikipedia

Hey m8, I just commented on your submissions on reddit. I'm u/zeus1131. Happy editing.

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Thank you! Tetra quark (talk) 08:50, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Dear Tetra quark,
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Best wishes to you, your family and relatives this holiday season! Take this opportunity to bond with your loved ones, whether or not you are celebrating Christmas. This is a special time for everybody, and spread the holiday spirit to everybody out there!
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Thank you! Sry, I forgot to reply before Tetra quark (talk) 13:50, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

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Happy New Year!

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! A new year has come! How times flies! 2015 will be a new year, and it is also a chance for you to start afresh! Thank you for your contributions!
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Neutron star

The reason I reverted is wrong. Instead, it's because you removed useful, referenced information from the article.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  14:53, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tom.Reding: well, technically yes, but in my opinion it is worth sacrificing some information for a better readability. All those numbers look confusing and are unnecessarily precise. Plus, what about the excessive references? Tetra quark (talk) 15:18, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

1) That's not a valid excuse for completely removing information. When the amount of numbers in prose becomes too large, a solution would be to make a table.

2) Those numbers are not unnecessarily precise; they contain only 1 to 2 significant digits.

3) For an encyclopedia, there's essentially no such thing as excessive references.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  15:51, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Your Files for Upload request

Hello, and thank you for your request at Files for upload! Unfortunately, your request has been declined. The reason is shown on the main FFU page. The request will be archived shortly; if you cannot find it on that page, it will probably be at this month's archive. Regards, Philroc 14:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

@Philroc: Sorry but I don't remember submitting a request. I uploaded a file or two on wikimedia commons but that's it Tetra quark (talk) 14:50, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tetra Quark: The talk page of the person who made the request, PM ME URANUS, redirects to your talk page. Philroc 14:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC

@Philroc: Oh, so perhaps I did submit a request a reaaaally long time ago. Tetra quark (talk) 14:54, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tetra quark: Right, and it hasn't been checked in a super long time. Philroc 14:57, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Exoplanet

Your recent edit summary made me instinctively (and incorrectly) assume that you removed information from the top. Which was fine, until I was reading through the diff and saw what you removed, and then thankfully saw that you moved useful "newsfeed" text from the top to elsewhere. Edit summaries are important, and it's always better to err on the side of verbosity and accuracy (if you move, say move). Please be careful, then everyone will have a better experience for it. Thanks.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  03:48, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tom.Reding: At first I thought that the change of bytes (the green or red number) was going to inform whether I deleted content or not. But yes, maybe I should have made myself more clear. Thanks for the warning Tetra quark (talk) 04:24, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Not a warning; just advice.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  04:26, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, right. Tetra quark (talk) 04:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Some notes

Hey Tetra - two quick notes from your edits on the fundamental forces:

• Sources like Quora should rarely be used as sources, if ever. Sources can be considered reliable when they come from reputable sources or groups, typically with editorial oversight. Quora, like Yahoo! Answers, allows anyone to post content and add answers, meaning there's not much value in terms of reliability.
• With regard to User:Tetra quark/forces, make sure you never add user templates to articles. Your userspace is for personal projects, and articles should never link or transclude userspace content. You can always substitute your template into the article using {{subst:User:Tetra quark/forces}}, which will automatically copy the code into the article once the page is saved. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 22:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

@SuperHamster:

• Yeah I know
• Well, I already put the templates into articles. I figured it'd just be simpler to use a template rather than making the source code too long. I can change that later Tetra quark 04:54, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• The Quora thing is in regard to this addition.
• If you'd like to have the table of the template, that's fine - but the template should be in the Tempalte space (e.g. Template:Fundamental forces table, or something among those lines). I wouldn't recommend it unless the table will be appearing in more than a couple articles, though. Thanks! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 09:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, that makes sense Tetra quark 14:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Atom

Thank you for adding the word "usually," I really didn't want to get into a revert war over whether Livermorium 293 has a similar number of protons and neutrons ;) (though if bare nuclei are not atoms, then there's a problem with the second sentence stating plasma is made of atoms - again, just etymology) cheers! A(Ch) 16:08, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

@Anythingcouldhappen: Thanks for the message! And yes, I also think that plasma isn't made of atoms. I thought about reverting that information when it was added by someone else, but decided not to. I will remove that now. Tetra quark 16:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Plasma is made of ionized atoms.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  16:29, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Honestly I tend to agree with Tetra and wouldn't usually call bare nuclei atoms, but in biochem its not uncommon to refer to a bare hydrogen nucleus in solution as a monoatomic cation, or as a hydrogen ion, or as a proton... all reasonable descriptions I see used all the time. Personally, I like the phrase "abstract a proton" too much to call it anything else, but there tends to be plenty of valid ways to explain the same phenomena depending on how you look at it :) A(Ch) 17:06, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure which context you guys are talking about. Regardless, "ionized atoms" is correct, and, if you're sure you're talking about fully ionized atoms in that context, then, if you want, "atomic nuclei" and "fully ionized atoms" are both correct. Saying "plasma isn't made of atoms" is scientifically suspicious. If you really want to say something like that, you can say "plasma is not made of neutral atoms".   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  17:21, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

The context is a few edits in the lede at Atom over whether fully stripped nuclei are atoms or not A(Ch) 17:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

The only thing I'd change is in my edit summary: "saying it's 'never made of atoms ' is too general specific to be generally true".   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  19:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Rollback

FYI you can gain rollback by making a request over at WP:PERM/R or by enabling WP:TWINKLE through your preference pane. Avono (talk) 20:04, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I still don't know why I haven't enabled Twinkle. Tetra quark 20:29, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Your question at the Teahouse

Welcome to the Teahouse, Tetra quark. The best thing to do when you are feeling upset about editing Misplaced Pages is to take a break. A long, restful break. Drink some very warm herbal tea, take a mid-afternoon nap, and go out to view some flowers. If you live in a cold climate, you may need to visit a florist shop or a greenhouse.

Then, check your own behavior, one, two, three, many times, to be 100% certain that you are not acting like an "immature editor" yourself. I hope not. Cullen Let's discuss it 05:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Oh, you've seen it. Thanks for the message! It was 3 AM here and I was tired. I don't consider myself to be immature (if I were, I'd be abusing my power as a free editor with the "powers" I've been given), but perhaps I might become a little immature too when dealing with childish editors. Tetra quark 13:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Edwin Hubble

About that revert.. a bio should have an image of the subject of the article. He is unrecognizable in that observatory image unless you have knowledge of him and the image. Use the image, just elsewhere in the article.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 01:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I kinda hesitated when I added that image in the lead. Well I moved it now :) Tetra quark 01:20, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Mahusha

I accept your invitation for wikiproject cosmology. User talk:Mahusha 14 January 2015 19:40 UTC

@Mahusha: Nice! Add yourself in the list of members there Tetra quark 14:14, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Dead links

Hey Tetra - please be cautious with AWB and removing references that contain dead links (e.g. ). See Misplaced Pages:Link rot for more information. As was outlined when you applied to use AWB, you should use caution and only apply AWB edits when you're sure of what's going on. A link to an online webpage is not required for a citation, and there are many ways to fix a dead link before simply removing it. For example, the Wayback Machine provides screenshots of webpages over history. As an example, for this dead link, you can find an archived version here. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

@SuperHamster:@Marchjuly: Well, thank you for bothering to go revert my edits. I didn't know that I was supposed to leave the dead links. AWB claimed it was a problem, so I just deleted them. Thanks, I'm still new to AWB :) Tetra quark 07:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Sure thing, nice job with the other fixes so far! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 07:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Misuse of AWB

Hi I noticed that you added a stub tag to Baade's Window, Black-hole cosmology and Illustris project. These are all far too large to be stub articles. Have a read of WP:stub and only add stub tags to articles that are very short with less than two paragraphs, and no images etc. I would prefer if you can keep that AWB permission. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:02, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

@Graeme Bartlett: Thanks for the warning, I'll remove the stubs. Also, don't blame my AWB permission for that. I could have added the stub tags manually. It just happened that I was on AWB Tetra quark 14:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! It will save work for those that remove them later. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:06, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Basically if it's over 1000 bytes, it's a start category instead of a stub. RoyalMate1 06:49, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Sun

Hi Tetra quark. I noticed your edit over at Fine-tuned Universe and edits you've been making in reference to the sun. Are you aware of this ? In this recent edit , the lower case use of sun appears most appropriate, whereas in some of the articles you've edited recently, the capital version is indeed correct. Just a heads up that you might need to wary of the astronomical distinction needed for capitalization if you weren't aware of it, so you might want to check that when changing such content. It seems the sun gets capitalization when referenced in relation to other celestial bodies, but not in the general context. Kingofaces43 (talk) 19:49, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@Kingofaces43: Yes, I am aware of those rules. I usually capitalize the word when it's after the word "the", but I always take a look at the context before saving the edit.

That first link mentions the Sun and the Moon as examples. In the sentence "Io is a moon of Jupiter", the word moon is lowercase because it doesn't refer to our moon, but rather, some other natural satellite. The same should be applied to our Sun. When the word sun is used to refer to other stars, it should be lowercase, if not, it's capitalized.

But now that I think about it, you may be right. I'm not sure if I would write the word sun capitalized when referring to non-astronomical stuff. "I went outside and the sun was warm". Well, I'll think about that. Anyways, about 90% of the edits I made were correct, considering I edited space-related articles only, so it's not a reason to be up in arms. Tetra quark 20:06, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh not up at arms at all. I just thought it was a curious exchange and looked into it further. The kind of response you gave by me just bringing it to your attention was all I was hoping for. Good luck. Kingofaces43 (talk) 20:22, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@Kingofaces43: Thanks. I'll keep that in mind Tetra quark 21:07, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

AWB

How would you do this in AWB? --JorisvS (talk) 21:23, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@JorisvS: It's quite simple. I make a list of articles that may contain the word universe, then I go to the Options tab and use the find and replace option. In the find field I type "the universe" and in replace I type "the Universe". Something like that.~And of course, I'll always check the context to be sure whether it should be capitalized.

By the way, I saw you correct a wrong edit I made where I capitalized "Sunshine". The word sun was found inside a word. I could add a space after "sun " (<-like that) in the find field so that problem wouldn't occur, but I can't do that because it would miss the word in the end of sentences (it would miss "Sun," or "Sun."). I constantly had to preview and correct words like sunshine, sunset etc and I missed that error you now corrected Tetra quark 21:35, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I do that, too. I was hoping there would be less laborious way than manually correcting false positives. You could add "the sun." and "the sun," alongside "the sun ". It beats manually fixing them. --JorisvS (talk) 21:39, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@JorisvS: Well, I personally find it entertaining to do some manual work. Also, the find and replace feature acts weird when I add more details in it... Tetra quark 22:34, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

What kind of weird? --JorisvS (talk) 22:38, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

One way to get around that, without using regex until you get comfortable with them, is to make separate rules for "the sun ", "the sun,", "the sun.", etc. with their own replacements: "the Sun ", "the Sun,", "the Sun.", respectively. You'll have a lot more fun.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  02:01, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@JorisvS:@Tom.Reding: I had no idea what regex was. It seems like it is really helpful. And yes, I tried creating different rules like you said but as I said above, it didn't work well. I can't tell exactly why. For example, when the word "the" was in the beginning of a sentence (and was capitalized), the finder would ignore it. But if I added "The sun " —> "The Sun ", the software would mix the rules together or something. I would see "The Sun" in the middle of a sentence, where the first word shouldn't be capitalized. Perhaps I should have made it case sensitive, now that I think about it Tetra quark 02:16, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

the universe/Universe

I think that you've misread the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Astronomy#Capitalize the "U" in "universe" or not? (and, in any event, a discussion at an individual WikiProject cannot affect a guideline like WP:MOS without a more general discussion). I understand that you're a fairly new user and that you're eager to contribute to the encyclopedia, but I would suggest that using an automated tool like AWB is not the best way to get started. It's certainly not a good way to enforce what appear to be your personal capitalization preferences on a large number of articles. I'd recommend that you get some experience with editing "by hand", and seeing how experienced editors react to your edits, before trying to use automated or semi-automated tools to make edits to a large number of articles in quick succession. Deor (talk) 03:01, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@Deor: Thanks for the message. Well, I'm not sure how I misread the discussion. Everyone appeared to be coming to the same conclusion and they are quite experienced users. Also, it is not my opinion. In fact, I started a discussion asking which way we should use the word, and I didn't influence anyone's answer in my message (although I left my humble opinion there).

Yes, I read the MOS section on celestial bodies. According to it, it's is ok to capitalize words like "sun" when they are in an astronomical context (As in the Sun is a main sequence star) and it's not ok when it is not. The word sun, for example, can be used to refer to stars in general as well (our sun is our primary source of energy. Implying -> there are other suns), and yes, it should be lowercased.

When it comes to the word "universe", the same rule can be applied. There is the Universe (which means, the totality of existence) and there are other uses of that word that can refer to one universe in a multi-verse, or refer to it in a philosophical way, or even when referring to wildly different things like "Miss universe". Even though MOS doesn't have an specific example that mentions the word universe, it's pretty clear the same should be applied.

Regarding AWB, all I have to say it is helping me tons. I can now easily put the See also section of articles in its right place quickly, remove stub tags, categorize articles, leave the banner of my new Cosmology WikiProject, watch articles that interest me almost automatically, etc, etc, etc. If you believe my use of it isn't being appropriate, maybe you should change the permission criteria. I met the 500 article edits requirement. If that's not enough, I don't know what I can do.

Again, thanks for messaging me Tetra quark 03:36, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Your actions continue to be provocative rather than by consensus. I suggest you pause with your carte blanc changes immediately, before other editors come down on you like a ton of bricks. I feel you are going around just exploiting weakness in Misplaced Pages rather than contributing via reference information.

Of the issue of consensus, half the editors responding to your 'suggestion' have disagree with you, but you went ahead and started changing things anyway. Arianewiki1 (talk) 06:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Saturn

Hi. I undid your change here. Quotations should not be "corrected" like this. --John (talk) 10:55, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@John: whoops, my bad. Tetra quark 14:34, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Nirvana (band)

Please don't add nonfree images like album covers to band articles. This is not considered as a valid fair use here. --John (talk) 11:05, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@John: Oh, fine. Well, they were on commons, so... you might want to report the images there as well. And by the way, what about the album cover on the nevermind page, for example? It shouldn't be allowed as well Tetra quark 14:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

The album cover images are not on Commons and are not eligible to be as they are not free. They can be used on Misplaced Pages only under a claim of fair use. The fair use rationale on File:NirvanaNevermindalbumcover.jpg, for example, makes clear that it is considered to be fair use only on the Nevermind article. There is a long-standing consensus that album covers are fair use on the album article but not on the band article. An exception might be made if there was a discussion of the album artwork (as opposed to the album itself) in the band article, but such an exception would have to be discussed and agreed first. --John (talk) 20:36, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@John: Thanks for the clarification. I'm still a quite new user and I'm still not used to those (kind of annoying) rules. I will add other images to the article later. Possibly some image of them playing live Tetra quark 20:40, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

We are trying to create a free resource here. It is one of our fundamental principles. Please read this essay to get an idea of why this is not an "annoying rule" but a consequence of our mission to deliver free content. As far as being a new user, of course, that's fine, it's a steep learning curve. Let me know if you need any help. --John (talk) 00:13, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

AWB (2)

Hi again. I saw this edit. AWB should only be used to make completely uncontroversial edits. This matter seems to still be under discussion at the Astronomy project talk page. Please don't make any more AWB edits without reviewing the AWB usage rules. My advice would be to wait a week or so and then ask approval, as that now makes two problematic "corrections" you have made, which others then have to tidy up. I am a wikignome myself so I am sympathetic to your desire to make semi-automated edits that improve the project, but I am urging you to proceed with caution here. --John (talk) 20:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@John: Yes, you're right. Maybe I should have waited for a few more opinions, even though everyone seemed favorable of the changes at first. I made a few mistakes sometimes (like in that article you linked), however, I believe that even though I made some wrong changes, most of them were correct, so there are now less stuff for others to fix overall. This is an encyclopedia. Capitalization errors are a serious issue, as it makes people doubt (even more) of the credibility of the articles. Well, thanks for your message. I'm still quite new to wikipedia afterall anyway Tetra quark 21:00, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I'd say that making occasional mistakes is natural, whether one is using AWB or not. The important thing is the cooperative spirit so that these mistakes are then fixed. --JorisvS (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@JorisvS: Also, if I make a big mistakes using AWB, I can easily revert them the save way I edited Tetra quark 23:57, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm disappointed you have continued. I am revoking your AWB access. --John (talk) 10:57, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

There has never been a controversy on capitalizing proper nouns. That's a minor change I had been making long before that little argument I got into. When I said I should have waited a little longer to make the edits, I was referring specifically to the word "universe" as discussed here , but no one ever had a problem when I capitalized words like Sun and Earth. In fact, I've received some thanks.

As you already mentioned in my page, I made a few mistakes, but considering I got it right 90% of the time, it is worth it in the end. Check out my latest contribs and see by yourself if what I did was right or not. Technically yes, I edited based on the MoS. Tetra quark 14:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

I didn't like that you ignored my request above: "Please don't make any more AWB edits without reviewing the AWB usage rules" and immediately went on making semi-automated edits. 90% of the time isn't good enough, we are looking for close to 100% to be allowed on AWB. It is not fair to expect others to scrutinise all your edits and correct your mistakes. You should be able to do that yourself, and you should be properly responsive to queries from others about your edits. You should also never attempt to archive a discussion you have taken part in, except maybe on your own talk page. Don't worry, I know you are still fairly new here and maybe you rushed into AWB too quickly. Wait until you know your way around a bit better and we can try again. In the meantime, please don't hesitate to ask for any further help. --John (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@John: Fine, but honestly, don't you think I reduced significantly the things other people have to edit? Imagine capitalizing all those words manually? Technically, I was in agreement with the MoS, although I make a few mistakes. Tetra quark 18:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Also, I tried to archive the discussion because of that one hot head member who was being stubborn. Just look at what that discussion has turned into now because of him. Most people were in agreement or indifferent if you see the other messages there.

Oh and just one more thing. I hope this information will be useful to you admins. I can still use AWB. I mean, I'm not going to use it for a while, but I test-edited one thing and it works. This error may be something worth of interest to you Tetra quark 18:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

TQ, here's my suggestion. Go ahead and use WP's search feature to find articles that contain some misspelled words, such as "Unverse" or something, and correct them manually. If you can do this with a low error rate, I'm sure you could reapply for AWB permission in the future, as it would show that you can be trusted to use AWB's find-and-replace without making errors. StringTheory11 (t • c) 19:03, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@StringTheory11: Thanks for the suggestion. The thing is that I pretty much do the changes manually. I only use AWB to spot the words and to switch articles more easily. Can I ask you something? Do you think the things I got right didn't compensate the few errors? Again, thanks for the message Tetra quark 19:38, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject:Lede improvement team has been created

Hi Tetra quark I thought I'd let you know I have created the Lede Improvement Team's WikiProject page. I'm still working on it but feel free to make any changes as you see fit.  DiscantX 04:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@DiscantX: Great! Sorry, I totally forgot to create it :( But anyway, I'll improve it now. Tetra quark 04:41, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay sounds great. I had to move the page by the way, as I accidently created it in main space. New address is Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Lede Improvement Team. Not that you couldn't have figured that out what with the redirect and all...  DiscantX 04:54, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar.

By the way, you wouldn't happen to know how to set up MediaWiki to host 2 or more wikis, would you? The Transhumanist 06:17, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Sorry, no idea. haha Tetra quark 06:19, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

The future sure is approaching fast. Get a load of these (20 short mind blowing tech videos, that play in sequence). The Transhumanist 06:45, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I like the Air Jelly. What are those things exactly? Tetra quark 06:51, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Robots. WP has an article on just one of them, the SmartBird. By the way, if you think those were freaky, take a look at these. (You'll have to click on each one to watch 'em). The Transhumanist 07:23, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Oh, I know WildCat, I've already watched that video. Cool as tits. However, I'm still not quite sure what's the purpose of those things. Sure it is interesting, but that's something I wouldn't be investing my budget on ^^ Tetra quark 08:07, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I know this is silly and kinda unrelated but I really wanted to buy one of these ... Tetra quark 17:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Unblocked

Hi Tetra. I've unblocked you per your statement here. Given that you understand why your behavior was problematic and have suggested a means to avoid it, understand that if you engage in edit warring or violate 3RR, you will receive a far longer block. Anyway, using WikiProjects as a means to encourage discussion about an idea is good, but a more direct way is just to use article talk pages as you have done in the past. Regardless of where you interact with others, please do it politely. There is almost never any real need to accuse people of being immature and whatnot. Be aware of when you need to disengage from an article or topic if you're not confident that you can communicate constructively. I, JethroBT 22:35, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

@I JethroBT: Sure, sure. Thank you!

Comet

Hi, FYI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Comet#Number_of_comets_in_.22reservoir.22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.50.215 (talk) 01:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Replied Tetra quark 01:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for the welcoming :D

Ythyth (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

@Ythyth: aww thanks c: Tetra quark 02:37, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:40, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

"2" vs "20em" column widths

Re. your edit at Astrophysics, if I'm not mistaken, the "2" columns choice is deprecated in favor of 10em - 30em column widths. It appears to be an accessibility issue as explained on this documentation page. And it's not even in my browser with my settings (different for everybody). Maybe 10em or 15em would appear better? At least they will self-adjust for mobile devices and pads, which the "2" setting does not do. – Paine  04:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: "{{cmn|2|" is what I see more often, so I thought it'd be the best. I'll see what I can do about that. Thanks for the message Tetra quark 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Commons Pic of the Year

Hey Tetra - first round voting for the Commons Picture of the Year 2014 has started. Figured you might be interested in voting if you'd like to get more involved at the Commons; one of the categories is also Astronomy, with some pretty great pics. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@SuperHamster: Nice! I have voted now. I'll keep up with this Tetra quark 03:02, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Scientific racism?

I note that you have a badge on your homepage User:Tetra quark that declares that you believe in "scientific racism". I find this to be unfathomable. I could use many other words, but I can't even bring myself to say them. I find it hard to imagine how this unfortunate declaration could actually be acceptable to wikieditors with whom you might actually hope to collaborate. Isambard Kingdom (talk) 01:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

@Isambard Kingdom: That's my philosophy. Also, there is a quite significant difference between racism and scientific racism. Tetra quark 03:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Please fix username formatting

Your username formatting is causing problems with Misplaced Pages's syntax hilighting. Please fix as a courtesy to other editors. What your current formatting results in:

'''] <sup>(])'''</sup> 00:52, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

What this should be changed to:

'''] <sup>(])</sup>''' 00:52, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I've had to make this adjustment to a couple of your comments in a talk page so that I could parse what I was working on. djr13 (talk) 23:43, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Djr13: I use syntax highligher and I never noticed that issue. Thanks for letting me know! Tetra quark 23:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

January 2015

@Eeekster: please get out of my user page. don't post templated garbage here Tetra quark 01:59, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Your reverts on Moon

can you check if the option "New image thumb design, and other related CSS tests (TOC, categories, etc.)" is set under "Testing and development" on the gadgets page in you preferences? if so, can you check to see if you see the same problem when you turn off this feature? Frietjes (talk) 17:40, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@Frietjes: "Mobile sidebar preview - Show page in mobile view while browsing the desktop site" is the only item in the "Testing and development" heading here. That option you mentioned isn't anywhere in the page Tetra quark 17:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

are you sure? there should be three items under "Testing and development" on the "Gadgets" page and the second one should be "New image thumb design, and other related CSS tests (TOC, categories, etc.)". Frietjes (talk) 17:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@Frietjes: Oh, the options didn't appear because I was using the MonoBook skin. I checked the Moon article again and the horizontally lined images and the red moon picture don't overlay anymore, but there is still a problem. look. The fourth image is below Tetra quark 17:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

(aside) I recommend the free Chrome app Hacker Vision to nicely invert colors, giving you a much easier-on-the-eye black background with white+colored text. *scurries away mumbling to himself "oops you're using FireFox"*   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  18:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

the screenshot is from the current version with {{auto images}}, not my version with {{multiple image}}, correct? Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@Frietjes: Whoops, my bad. Well, it turns out the problem still happens in your article revision. See Tetra quark 18:45, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

okay, that's a different problem. can you check this version? Frietjes (talk) 18:52, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@Frietjes: Technically that's the original problem. Anyway, yes, it looks fine now on both skins Tetra quark 18:54, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

good, so, I am now assuming the multiple image template version works, so I am going with that. the auto images template is being phased out (see template talk:auto images). if for some reason I am total missing what is going on here, please let me know. Frietjes (talk) 18:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikiproject Ignosticism

Yo m8, I'm interested in starting a Portal:Ignosticism and Wikiproject:Ignosticism and/or a Portal and Wikiproject on theological noncognitivism and related things. Please tell me if you're interested. RoyalMate1 22:53, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

@Royalmate1: I'm not sure. Creating the cosmology portal and wikiproject was rather exausting. Ignosticism is something that'd be worth at least a portal though. I consider myself an ignostic. Tetra quark 23:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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Astronomy article

(Reverted 1 edit by Squiver (talk) to last revision by Materialscientist. (TW))

Why?

Squiver (talk) 00:04, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

@Squiver: Your edit seemed weird. Unundo it if you want to Tetra quark 01:22, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

What did you find weird about it? Squiver (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

For Laniakea Supercluster

I saw your edit on my talk page. Leave it just the way it is. The infobox says "brightest member" which means the most readily visible member of Laniakea, which is our own galaxy because although it appears mag 4.1, it is spread out, so it is equivalent to Earth visibility mag -5.0. It is different from "most luminous member" or the most brightest member in terms of actual light output, which is Markarian 421 since it is a blazar. You must not be confused to jumble those two terms. "Brightest" is the visibility from Earth; "Most luminous" is the actual light. Take note that of the 40+ Seyfert galaxies of the Virgo Cluster, Messier 49 is the brightest. Why? It is the brightest Virgo Cluster member as seen from Earth, even though it is not an active galaxy at all. Regards? SkyFlubbler 23:00, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

In addition, it's not an issue if we mention our own galaxy. Although your version has more info, this is not always the case. I know it sounds retarded, but remember, Misplaced Pages does not deal with what is obvious, we are dealing with what is right. No matter how obvious or retarded it is, as long as it is right, that is what we must include. Regards? SkyFlubbler 09:26, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Local Group

Hey TQ, I opened a thread at Talk:Local Group and would welcome your participation. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:42, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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Recent image edit on Earth

Regarding your recent change of the lead photo in the article, I like that. But regarding your edit summary reasons, I expect that you are mistaken: the US and Mexico really are that big: it's a photo. In the commonest cartographic style (with the poles depicted along the entire top and bottom boundaries), there is obvious distortion of the areas near the poles, stretching them large and making Greenland appear half the size of the US or more. The photo you replaced has another perspective problem, produced as a result of the low orbit of the satellite that took the photo. The planetary disk looks like it covers a whole hemisphere, but in fact it does not. The image file states the apparent diameter really only comprises about 125 degrees of longitude or latitude. (I think that may be stretching it a bit.) It is the close-up view that distorts the apparent size. Note that the center of the photo is at a position north of the equator, yet not even the Great Lakes are visible in the north (though perhaps, barely, under some clouds). The east coast is visible (dimly) only as far as New York/Connecticut, and the west coast extends only to northern California. I think the view only extends past 45 degrees N nearer the photo middle (L/R). Evensteven (talk) 07:52, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

3RR

Hi Tetra quark: just a warning that you're in danger of violating WP:3RR at dark matter. I'll start a discussion at the talk page there for the substance of the matter, but please refrain from edit warring. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs)

You have now twice reverted changes at dark matter that you know are not representative of consensus, since two editors disagree with you at the talk page, and marked the edits as minor. That is not collaborative in spirit and is explicitly against the allowed use of the minor edit label. Please stop. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 01:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Ashill: perhaps you should stop being stubborn and stop fighting over a simple word Tetra quark 01:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Though I agree that this is a silly amount of fight over a simple word, refusing to participate in the talk discussion in the face of a clear lack of consensus is not OK. Two editors have expressed clear, substantive reasons why we prefer the word "Universe" on the talk page, while you have contributed only "it's obvious" and asserted that we "disagree for the sake of disagreeing", and in the meantime continued to edit war without discussion. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 01:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Ashill: there is no need to repeat the word universe. Within the 3rr limits, I'll keep changing that word indefinitely. Tetra quark 05:07, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

If your idea of edit warring within the 3RR limits is to avoid being blocked, that's not going to work - continuous edit warring, even within the 3RR limits, is still disruptive and blockable. Other editors have chimed in on the talk page with their reasoning, yet you continue to revert against this without contributing to the discussion. Misplaced Pages is a community effort. Not everything that happens is going to be the way you want it, and that's okay. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 05:59, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Arianewiki1: get the fuck out of my talk page Tetra quark 12:40, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Tetra quark: Such poor conduct will only get you in deeper. Request. Please don't speak to me or anyone else like this again. I.e. WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE says "... an editor who is making personal attacks, and does not stop when you ask them, may be warned by an administrator and subsequently blocked." Note: Saying this, as below, to an Administrator is absolute suicide. Arianewiki1 (talk) 15:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Arianewiki1: Once again, get out. Fuck off with your WP quotes and links. Just stop and think for a moment about what you've done. You come to my talk page, read a conversation in which you were not involved in, report me to an admin, and keep posting here. Look: Fuck off. Who the fuck do you think you are, you little shit? get outTetra quark 16:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@John:@Tetra quark:Go luck with that. See you in six days. 23:34, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

• I'm afraid I agree with Arianewiki1. I have blocked you for one week because of your continued edit-warrring and your statement that you intend to "keep changing that word indefinitely". This is not acceptable. --John (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
  • @John: Go fuck yourself, just ban me already. Do you think I'm some sort of dog who has to be slowly tamed? I'm a volunteer here and thankfully I've done much more good than bad, so that won't be a concern when I rest my head on the pillow at night. So, as you can see, I haven't been very active in the past few weeks because I was about to lose the last drop of patience I still had with you guys. To start off, I can't deal withstubborn pieces of shit like Isambard Kingdom, arianewiki1 and you, Mr John. Second, 2 vs 1 is not a "consensus", but I'm not here to discuss the edits themselves and the reason I got blocked. I'm not even gonna discuss the fact that those two intended to revert me indefinitely as well, and that technically I wasn't breaking the 3rr. I don't care, I'm tired of wasting time and energy on you. I refuse to be treated like garbage, so please just drop the banhammer. Tetra quark 14:04, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Tetra quark. I advise you to reread WP:3RR; it's only 12 sentences. In particular, "Even without a 3RR violation, an administrator may still act if they believe a user's behavior constitutes edit warring, and any user may report edit warring with or without 3RR being breached. The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times." (emphasis in original).

I also suggest that, although you are certainly allowed to say anything you want on your talk page, it might be seen as a gesture of good faith to think about whether you want to partially revert or edit portions of what you've said here. I look forward to your continued constructive contributions to the encyclopedia, if you're willing. Neither John nor any other administrator has the authority or cause to ban you.

I realize that this might come across in a bad way, coming from an editor involved in a (minor!) content dispute with you, but I assure you that my comments are intended to be friendly and helpful. Feel free to delete them if you like. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 14:58, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Last chance

Hi again Tetra quark. I am disappointed in your recent behaviour. Nevertheless I do still see potential in you and I want to extend a final offer to you. If you can post a convincing unblock, or if you wait out your current block, and completely refrain from reverting or anything approaching an edit war, I will do everything I can to protect you and help you avoid further blocks. If, on the other hand, you come back and resume poor editing like repeated reversion, I will have no alternative but to make the next block an indefinite one. The choice is yours. I hope you will choose wisely. --John (talk) 22:47, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@John: Thanks but I'm not quite sure what's the offer here. To post an unblock request is already my right, as far as I know. Anyway, I'll just wait for my 1 week block to end (edit: it ends today, apparently). After that, I'm not sure if I'll return, as I believe I've done my part to this project already. I might do some gnomish work here and there. Also, sorry for the excessive swearing above. Tetra quark 05:53, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Just Chill out

Man, as a WikiProject creator, I highly respect you. But what are you doing? You put yourself in shame. You don't need to speak like that, because we are all Wikipedians, siblings, brothers and sisters. You disrespected your brother. And not just a normal brother; he is an admin. Please chill yourself. If you can't, try having a vacation for a week or two for you to cool down. SkyFlubbler 11:49, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

@SkyFlubbler: Thanks for the message. Also, thanks for the message you left on Arianewiki1's talk page. That's appreciated. Anyway, as a reply to you, read my message to John above. Regards Tetra quark 05:54, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Please!

Oh, what are you doing! You are killing yourself! What have you done! Arinewiki has told you not to remove his messages but you didn't follow his orders. John has warned you already but you didn't stop.

What are you doing! What happened to you! You were once a great contributor, but now, you are doing bad things. You have lots of offenses. Are you not ashamed? I AM the one who appealed to them to give you another chance. Please, TQ. If you didn't change then John will block you forever and I will not do anything to stop them or to get you back. Please change. What happened to you? Tell me why are you doing this. Please stop whatever it was. I am begging you for the sake of WP:COSMOS. I know I can trust you to change.

Remember, if you removed this message, I will do nothing anymore but to hand you over to John. Change while I can still do something for you. Because if I can't, John would deal with you since he is an administrator. Not just a normal editor, but an administrator. The highest position in Misplaced Pages!

Please talk to me in my talk if you have comments. Regards? SkyFlubbler 08:20, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. TQ is absolutely within his rights to do this. He has been notified of the WP:ANI investigation, which is based solely on evidence, and will be judged accordingly. I have stated the case in WP:GF, and there is little else you or I can do. None of this is personal, but has to do with sorting out some of the recent behaviour. Please don't overreact with your plea. Furthermore, it is the whole community who decides actions not just me. I have not ordered TQ to do anything. All I did was request not to delete this. The continuing error here is the lack of willingness to collaborate with others, and seemingly not treating everyone with respect. I.e. Bad faith. This issue is irrespective of how good or bad an editor has or will be.

Currently, ignoring the WP:ANI is equally silly. I would very strongly suggest he engage in the conversation there, so we can solve the issues, and all move on. Pretending this is some unfair game of victimisation, so I'll simply ignore it, just hardens things against TQ. I too wish to see this User contribute to the articles, but his liabilities from his past behaviour has made this questionable. As he will not listen to me, so I can do no more. Arianewiki1 (talk) 10:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@SkyFlubbler: Thanks for your concern, but why are you being so dramatic? Relax, man. Also, what do you mean by "his orders"? He is not an admin, if you haven't figured by now. Tetra quark 15:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Continued Uncivil Behaviour

@John:@Tetra quark: Under WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL "Derogatory comments about another contributor may be removed by any editor."

As you seem to be unprepared to remove this offensive text, or extend an apology, I have taken the action of removing by striking through text. (I could have removed these posts, BTW, all together.)

Your constant reversions of this can be view as a hostile act, where such uncivil comments like yours here, and these can be sanctioned.

If you wish to go through Administrator's arbitration, I'm happy to go down that path. You can also do this. Arianewiki1 (talk) 12:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

@Arianewiki1: As a rule, it is considered borderline disruptive to continue posting an another user's talkpage when they have asked you not to, no matter how uncivilly the request is made. I'd recommend that you unwatch this page and do not pour oil on the fire by continuing to post here. Yunshui _水 12:13, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

@Yunshui: I do suggest you read the rules of uncivil behaviour more carefully. If a User refuses to correct such actions, which Tetra quark continues to do, I can WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL. TQ can easily solve this problem by removing the text itself. I recommend you take this to Administrator's arbitration if you feel my actions are unwarranted or defy the rule of WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL. In fact I'd welcome it. Thanks. Arianewiki1 (talk) 12:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

@Arianewiki1: I suggest you re-read WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL, especially the part which says It is not normally appropriate to edit or remove another editor's comment. You might also like to read WP:REMOVED, WP:RPA, WP:TPO (point #3), WP:EW and WP:NOBAN, all of which ask you not to engage in the behaviour you have recently been exhibiting. Your actions here do nothing to improve the situation and everything to escalate it; if you are genuinely interested in maintaining civility on Misplaced Pages, a good start would be to step away from this talkpage. Yunshui _水 12:32, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Out of courtesy to TQ, I would also ask that you continue this conversation on my talkpage, should you choose to do so. Yunshui _水 12:33, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm happy to do so, but my reply to the post before this is;

@Yunshui: I will, as soon as the incivility has been removed. I am behaving with civility to solve this issue. As this user refuses to engage to solve this issue, then I have little else but to remove the offending text. (I have have read all the links you've given, but it is overridden by WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL, actually.) Arianewiki1 (talk) 12:50, 5 March 2015 (UTC)