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At the bottom of p.90 (last page) of the PNAC report ''Rebuilding America's Defenses'' where Zakheim's name appears, there is a statement as follows.<blockquote>''The above list of individuals <u>participated in at least one project meeting or contributed a paper for discussion.</u> The report is a product solely of the Project for the New American Century and does not necessarily represent the views of the project participants or their affiliated institutions.''</blockquote>Furthermore, this peer-reviewed sources describes Zakheim as one of the "authors" of the report. At the bottom of p.90 (last page) of the PNAC report ''Rebuilding America's Defenses'' where Zakheim's name appears, there is a statement as follows.<blockquote>''The above list of individuals <u>participated in at least one project meeting or contributed a paper for discussion.</u> The report is a product solely of the Project for the New American Century and does not necessarily represent the views of the project participants or their affiliated institutions.''</blockquote>Furthermore, this peer-reviewed sources describes Zakheim as one of the "authors" of the report. (ubikwit unsigned)


:And you seem to forget the rest -- '''that it does not in any way imply at all any agreement with the report''' which is what '''not necessarily represent the views of the project participants ''' says. If you can claim a person is a "member" of a group when '''he might vehemently disagree with every single statement it makes''' - that is a very interesting concept of "member" indeed. ] (]) 12:28, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Being listed as a person ''who may disagree with every single position of a group'' no more makes a person a "member" of that organization than it can make a horse's tail into a leg.

: "''The other ‘‘listed’’ groups cited in the report were International Workers Order (Goldberg was alleged to be one of the group’s ‘‘representatives’’ in Chicago), the American Committee for the Protection of Foreign Born (he reportedly ‘‘led the discussion on the anti-alien bills’’ at a 1940 conference), American Youth Congress (his name appeared on a mailing list), United Spanish Aid Committee (his name appeared on a list found in the group’s files), the National Emergency Conference (he allegedly signed ‘‘the call’’ for this 1939 conference held ‘‘in protest of legislation’’ believed to threaten ‘‘the civil rights and liberties not only of aliens but of native and naturalized Americans’’), International Citizens Committee for the Arts, Sciences and Professions (he reportedly made reservations at the Continental Hotel for 20 persons ‘‘expected to attend’’ the group’s 1946 convention), Russian War Relief (an unknown source charged he was ‘‘a signer of the Chicago Committee of Russian War Relief’’), and National Federation for Constitutional Liberties (an informant said his name was on ‘‘a list of sponsors’’ of a ‘‘national conference of all civil rights groups to be held in Washington in June, 1940’’ to establish the organization).''

As the note you cite states that being listed does not state any agreement with anything, I find it a weak source for asserting "membership" in anything at all. Cheers. ] (]) 12:28, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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Why are previous discussions such as this one (below) not present here?

Why is there no link to archived discussions if previous discussions have taken place?


"His former entry in LoPbN reads

*Zakheim, Dov S., adviser to W; in Reagan admin; rabbi; CEO of remote-flight-control co.; coauthor Rebuilding America's Defences; comptroller of DoD

and not all of that seems reflected in the bio; perhaps research would verify the claims that the bio omits.


WHY IS THERE NO MENTION OF HIS BEING A DUAL CITIZEN AD VARIOUS TIES TO ISRAEL AND THE FACT THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF MISSING $ WAS MADE ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. THERE ARE ALSO ALLEGATIONS WHICH SEEM TO HOLD WATER THAT HE ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED ISRAEL TO BUY DOZENS OF AMERICAN JETS AT AN UNBELIEVABLE DISCOUNT BY MISCHARACTERIZING THEM AS SURPLUS OR, BASICALLY, HAVING USED UP MOST OF THEIR EFFECTIVE LIFE. ISRAEL, A COUNTRY OF 7 MILLION PEOPLE, HAS THE SECOND LARGEST FLEET OF F-15S IN THE WORLD. -siceolacht — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.196.57 (talk) 23:42, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

System Planning Corporation (Company)

Try this!: http://www.sysplan.com/sysplan/Corporate/Officers/DZakheim Dov S. Zakheim is Corporate Vice President of System Planning Corporation (SPC), a high-technology, research, analysis, and manufacturing firm based in Arlington, Virginia. He is also Chief Executive Officer of SPC International Corporation, a subsidiary of SPC that specializes in political, military, and economic consulting, and international sales and analysis.

http://www.sysplan.com/Contract_Vehicles/SEAPORT-e/tech_capabilities SPC specialise in scientific and analytic support to Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) offices involving complex areas such as optical physics, target identification and tracking, and countermeasures. R&D engineering activities include new weapon systems and the upgrade of existing systems. Contracts with NAVAIR (Naval Air Station Patuxent River) focus on the development and testing of naval aviation systems including weapons and avionics systems integration.

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.211.130 (talk) 11:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

--Jerzy~t 01:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

"Backup boys - I looked up this guy because someone said he was comptroller when $2,600,000,000,000 ( I think that is a trillion+) went missing. Was the $$$$$$$ ever found? Was he transferred without the $$$$$$$ being found? Maybe he found where it went - answers?? Where I read this I thought the writer was probably a nut - thanks for clearing that up - he appears not to be, at least got this one right. -- posted by Unknown/anonymous previous User

again:
Why are previous discussions such as this one (immediately above) not present here?
Why is there no link to archived discussions if previous discussions have taken place?
Nunamiut 20:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


Some clarification please: The article makes reference (ref #2) to sworn testimony by the subsequent Under Secretary of Defense, Tina W. Jonas, in November of 2004 when asserting, "He initiated a number of processes that led to the reduction of that sum by two-thirds by the time of his departure, and to its reduction by over 99.9% within two years thereafter." First, there's a time discrepancy here if he departed in early-mid 2004 and she made this statement in 2004, how could this statement see into 2006? Second, the testimony in the linked PDF only speaks of business process initiatives and optimizations to implement stronger internal controls. There's no direct or indirect mention of the recovery of the remaining one-third of the missing $2.6 trillion dollars. AnkushNarula 20:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

This guy has a good lawyer, huh? Has wikipedia scared, to even mention it as being part of his controversies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.14.223.132 (talk) 15:27, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Claims that 90% of 2.6 Trillion was accounted for?

I followed the link to the PDF file issuing a report on updates to policies. Nowhere in this article is it stated that the lost funds had been accounted for. Unless someone can point out where in this article that information lies the statement,"He initiated a number of processes that led to the reduction of that sum by two-thirds by the time of his departure. It has now been reduced by more than 90 per cent." should be considered unsourced and promptly removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinoth (talkcontribs) 05:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

PNAC membership

At the bottom of p.90 (last page) of the PNAC report Rebuilding America's Defenses where Zakheim's name appears, there is a statement as follows.

The above list of individuals participated in at least one project meeting or contributed a paper for discussion. The report is a product solely of the Project for the New American Century and does not necessarily represent the views of the project participants or their affiliated institutions.

Furthermore, this peer-reviewed sources describes Zakheim as one of the "authors" of the report. (ubikwit unsigned)


And you seem to forget the rest -- that it does not in any way imply at all any agreement with the report which is what not necessarily represent the views of the project participants says. If you can claim a person is a "member" of a group when he might vehemently disagree with every single statement it makes - that is a very interesting concept of "member" indeed. Collect (talk) 12:28, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


Being listed as a person who may disagree with every single position of a group no more makes a person a "member" of that organization than it can make a horse's tail into a leg.

"The other ‘‘listed’’ groups cited in the report were International Workers Order (Goldberg was alleged to be one of the group’s ‘‘representatives’’ in Chicago), the American Committee for the Protection of Foreign Born (he reportedly ‘‘led the discussion on the anti-alien bills’’ at a 1940 conference), American Youth Congress (his name appeared on a mailing list), United Spanish Aid Committee (his name appeared on a list found in the group’s files), the National Emergency Conference (he allegedly signed ‘‘the call’’ for this 1939 conference held ‘‘in protest of legislation’’ believed to threaten ‘‘the civil rights and liberties not only of aliens but of native and naturalized Americans’’), International Citizens Committee for the Arts, Sciences and Professions (he reportedly made reservations at the Continental Hotel for 20 persons ‘‘expected to attend’’ the group’s 1946 convention), Russian War Relief (an unknown source charged he was ‘‘a signer of the Chicago Committee of Russian War Relief’’), and National Federation for Constitutional Liberties (an informant said his name was on ‘‘a list of sponsors’’ of a ‘‘national conference of all civil rights groups to be held in Washington in June, 1940’’ to establish the organization).

As the note you cite states that being listed does not state any agreement with anything, I find it a weak source for asserting "membership" in anything at all. Cheers. Collect (talk) 12:28, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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