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	::And I think none of them are still in the article. By the by - nice job on the article. I like the way the references were cleaned out without the gist of the article getting gutted.] (]) 20:14, 25 March 2015 (UTC)		::And I think none of them are still in the article. By the by - nice job on the article. I like the way the references were cleaned out without the gist of the article getting gutted.] (]) 20:14, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
	:::*The comment was more for the benefit of the author.....who has been conspicuously absent in the editing process. So much work would have been saved if he had at least a functioning understanding of the RS criteria. ] (]) 20:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)		:::*The comment was more for the benefit of the author.....who has been conspicuously absent in the editing process. So much work would have been saved if he had at least a functioning understanding of the RS criteria. ] (]) 20:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
			::I create so others can work. {{U\|Niteshift36}} {{U\|PRehse}} It is a group volunteer effort. ] (]) 04:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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This page should not be speedily deleted because... It just went through a Deletion Review. It was stated that recreation was allowed. --CrazyAces489 (talk) 18:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes but the article is still begging for an AfD. The previous AfDs and both DRv call into question the quality and number of references and the repost was again a mess - one would think some attempt to address the underlying issues discussed would have been carried out.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, with a group of people deleting important citations, it will be a stub and subsequently deleted. CrazyAces489 (talk) 21:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry - who deleted citations from the article.Peter Rehse (talk) 21:47, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Some one did a major clean-up of the problem references and with a little further copy editing on my part - the article is in much better (clearer) shape than it was at the re-post. Thank you Niteshift36. There are still some reference issues (primarily deadlinks, see below) which should be looked at but a far clearer case for keeping now exists.Peter Rehse (talk) 12:26, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I deleted a number of sources that won't come close to passing RS. I ran out of time, but some more are likely to go as well. Additionally, there are some primary sources that should probably be reviewed in terms of what they contribute and a few sources that are debatable in terms of passing RS. I may seek some opinions at RSN. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

References with issues

http://www.cnfsa.com/content/history_sa.html%7Ctitle=NINJUTSU%7Cpublisher= Processing error (HTTP Error: 404)
http://www.usadojo.com/eulogies/mary-cates.htm Processing error (Fetching error)
http://www.quietstormmartialarts.com/Specials.html Processing error (HTTP Error: 404)
http://lostlegacysystems.com/programs/%7Ctitle=Programs%7Cpublisher= Processing error (HTTP Error: 404)
http://www.ashidakim.com/HowKimMetHayes.html%7Ctitle=HowKimMetHayes%7Cwork=ashidakim.com Processing error (HTTP Error: 404

None of those are reliable sources. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:12, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

And I think none of them are still in the article. By the by - nice job on the article. I like the way the references were cleaned out without the gist of the article getting gutted.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:14, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

The comment was more for the benefit of the author.....who has been conspicuously absent in the editing process. So much work would have been saved if he had at least a functioning understanding of the RS criteria. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I create so others can work. Niteshift36 PRehse It is a group volunteer effort. CrazyAces489 (talk) 04:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

possible further references

http://www.ma-mags.com/srchmag.php?SrchFor=ron+duncan&SrchHow=all

http://duncanmartialarts.com/history/

http://oninotsume3.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/black-belt-magazine-2013-03.pdf

http://www.bohans-family.com/sensei-speaks/duncan-ron/rd.htm

http://kogaryuninjutsuint.blogspot.com/2009/05/grand-master-ronald-duncan.html

http://jkashtonsjournal.blogspot.com/2012/11/rip-ronald-duncan.html

http://www.martialforce.com/SIFU%20ALAN%20GOLDBERG%20MARTIALFORCE%20INTERVIEW.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfcYiKlc5tg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KdPGOFLydY

allegations and issues with black belt magazine http://books.google.com/books?id=pM4DAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA58&ots=N2VRLlEapv&dq=ron%20duncan%20ninja&pg=PA58#v=onepage&q=ron%20duncan%20ninja&f=false

http://www.kapmma.com/3/my_tweets.htm

http://coboinvestigations.com/Combat-Training.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrazyAces489 (talk • contribs) 06:18, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Have you even read WP:RS? Niteshift36 (talk) 20:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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