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::::::::I find it odd that both Anders Feder and Mehran have not edited Misplaced Pages for a very long time, weeks, then both show up at the same time and place in this AfD and nowhere else. And they are both the only one's voting Delete. And then Anders Feder is throwing around all sorts of bad faith accusations and attempts to frame people for bad behavior. What's going on here? Probably something happening over at the Persian Misplaced Pages. Anders Feder, is there, how did you find out about this? I don't speak Persian but have access to Google Translate. -- ]] 04:30, 26 March 2015 (UTC) |
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One Woman's War: Da (Mother)
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Poor notability and lack of reliable sources. There are only some dependent Iranian references in the article that just introduce the book. There is nothing which can make the book notable. ●Mehran ● 08:39, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Speedy keep, As the page creator I believe that the subject is absolutely notable. To clarify my point, I'd like to refer you to Misplaced Pages:Notability (books) where it's mentioned that "A book that meets either the general notability guideline or the criteria outlined in this or any other subject-specific notability guideline, and which is not excluded under the What Misplaced Pages is not policy, is presumed to merit an article." Having the above point in mind, the subject is notable per WP:BKCRIT:
- The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. As the article says, a TV program is adapted from this subject. Also, Aryn Baker, the Middle East Bureau Chief for TIME, had a conversation with Seyyedeh Zahra Hossein, the narrator of the book.
- One Woman's War: Da (Mother) won the title of "selected book" in the second round of Jalal Al-e Ahmad Literary Awards,"Iran's most lucrative literary award".
- The translator is notable. Mhhossein (talk) 12:44, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per Mhhossein. Meets WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR #3 multiple reviews, and has won a significant award. -- GreenC 16:31, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:16, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:16, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per Mhhossein. Meets WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 18:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. User:Green Cardamom has been canvassed here by the article creator and his !vote should be taken with a pinch of salt. The sources cited are worthless, and the award mentioned is one instituted by the totalitarian Iranian government.--Anders Feder (talk) 22:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- The article is on my watchlist. I saw this AfD regardless of what people might post on my talk page and I would have posted here regardless. Most awards in Iran are state, just as they were in the USSR etc.. notability knows no border, if it's notable in Iran it's notable. -- GreenC 22:58, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- No it isn't.--Anders Feder (talk) 23:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- It was absolutely an Appropriate notification. However, how Iran, Germany, US or any other country is governed has nothing to do with this discussion. Mhhossein (talk) 02:48, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yes it does. The totalitarian way Iran is governed precludes reliability, which is a central pillar of notability. As for the notification, there is nothing appropriate about notifying an editor who you know to be disposed to agree with you. User:AliAkar, who has now been blocked for racism and sockpuppetry, tried the same thing with the editor in question.--Anders Feder (talk) 03:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer to stay focused on the subject, I don't care how other editors behave. Green is an expert in this field. Mhhossein (talk) 03:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- In what field? And on the basis of what?--Anders Feder (talk) 03:56, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- I find it odd that both Anders Feder and Mehran have not edited Misplaced Pages for a very long time, weeks, then both show up at the same time and place in this AfD and nowhere else. And they are both the only one's voting Delete. And then Anders Feder is throwing around all sorts of bad faith accusations and attempts to frame people for bad behavior. What's going on here? Probably something happening over at the Persian Misplaced Pages. Anders Feder, is there, how did you find out about this? I don't speak Persian but have access to Google Translate. -- GreenC 04:30, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- In what field? And on the basis of what?--Anders Feder (talk) 03:56, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer to stay focused on the subject, I don't care how other editors behave. Green is an expert in this field. Mhhossein (talk) 03:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yes it does. The totalitarian way Iran is governed precludes reliability, which is a central pillar of notability. As for the notification, there is nothing appropriate about notifying an editor who you know to be disposed to agree with you. User:AliAkar, who has now been blocked for racism and sockpuppetry, tried the same thing with the editor in question.--Anders Feder (talk) 03:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- It was absolutely an Appropriate notification. However, how Iran, Germany, US or any other country is governed has nothing to do with this discussion. Mhhossein (talk) 02:48, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- No it isn't.--Anders Feder (talk) 23:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)