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***{{reply to|Dustin V. S.}} - Maybe I'm being a little slow here, but how is he proposing we change the discrimination sidebar? ] (]) 16:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC) ***{{reply to|Dustin V. S.}} - Maybe I'm being a little slow here, but how is he proposing we change the discrimination sidebar? ] (]) 16:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' any blanket move or other wide-spread change. These articles are generally based on the context of the subject and its history; if a country (or other subject) has a long history of racism in particular, it is appropriate for it to have an article here discussing that racism, and it seems like it'd be inappropriate and unhelpful to turn that article into a general dropping-ground for all forms of prejudice. If a particular country (or other subject) has enough of a history of other forms of prejudice to form an article, we could start a separate article; and if multiple forms of prejudice in a particular topic seem tightly entwined (or if none of them have enough material to support their own articles), we could combine them into one article ''for that specific topic''. But I don't see any particular benefit to lumping all forms of prejudice together as a general rule. --] (]) 07:14, 26 March 2015 (UTC) *'''Oppose''' any blanket move or other wide-spread change. These articles are generally based on the context of the subject and its history; if a country (or other subject) has a long history of racism in particular, it is appropriate for it to have an article here discussing that racism, and it seems like it'd be inappropriate and unhelpful to turn that article into a general dropping-ground for all forms of prejudice. If a particular country (or other subject) has enough of a history of other forms of prejudice to form an article, we could start a separate article; and if multiple forms of prejudice in a particular topic seem tightly entwined (or if none of them have enough material to support their own articles), we could combine them into one article ''for that specific topic''. But I don't see any particular benefit to lumping all forms of prejudice together as a general rule. --] (]) 07:14, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
*'''Weak oppose''' any blanket move or other wide-spread change. As per Aquillion, and, because, like NickCT, I am unclear as to precisely what is being proposed.] (]) 16:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


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Restructuring and Updating Racism in the United States

Hello! I am Regina Leslie, a student at Rice University. I intend to make extensive structural changes and contextual updates to the article Racism in the United States, as a cumulative assignment in my Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course.

I have found that the current page is comprehensive, yet disorganized. As forms of discrimination continually evolve with transforming societal norms, I will provide a thorough understanding of the historical context, consequences, and systemic responses to this concept. Thus, I aim to provide a holistic and succinct summary of racial discrimination in the United States. My additions will be supplemented by reputable research, as accessed through Rice University.

Feel free to provide suggestions for improvements! I honestly will deeply respect and appreciate all thoughtful input!

jeanygina (talk) 20:00, 08 October 2013

Nomination of Ashkenazi intelligence for deletion

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Decrease of racial segregation in the USA

Here is a WSJ article about a Manhattan Institute report which says that in 2012 USA cities are more integrated than at any time since 1910, and that (as paraphrased by the WSJ) "All-white neighborhoods in U.S. cities are effectively extinct, according to the report."

  1. Jordan, Miriam. "Segregation Hits Historic Low." The Wall Street Journal. January 31, 2012.

Source list helpful for this project

You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Anthropology and Human Biology Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human genetics and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library system at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to other academic libraries in the same large metropolitan area) and have been researching these issues sporadically since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human genetics to edit them according to the Misplaced Pages standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 15:09, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

The source list is continually updated, and I welcome editors active in this project to use it, and to suggest new sources for me to look up and add to the source list. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 13:52, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Women by Ethnicity nominated for deletion.

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discrimination in New York

I recently created the page Adam Wiercinski with the following content:

Adam Wiercinski is a Jewish resident of Manhattan who was awarded $900,000 by Brooklyn federal court in October 2013 in damages for anti-Semitic slurs he suffered for over a decade at the hand of manager Artur Zbozien (and others) of Midtown Manhattan restaurant Mangia 57 owned by Sasha Muniak. Wiercinski was taunted with crass references to the Zyklon B gas used by the Nazis during the Holocaust. His lawyer said that his supervisors would call him a ‘dirty Jew,’ and when he would say, ‘But I took a bath,’ they would laugh and say, ‘No, you still smell like Jew.’

External links

Deleted as Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Adam Wiercinski. : Last version. Gregkaye (talk) 07:15, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Islamophobia

This Template links to this article. This wikiproject is linked to both as such I wanted to bring an issue to you that I put on the talk page of each. In the article nothing written connects the Group to Islamophobia. As such the template I feel is acting as a rubber stamp to make an unverified claim. I suggest one of two options:

  • 1- The template is removed from the talk page and the article is removed from the template.
  • 2- This connection of Islamophobia is written in the article along with all of the apropriate sources.

Either of these two options would bring this article up to at least a minimal standard of quality that it doesn't have as is.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 14:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I think that the fact it targets mostly Muslim groups could warrant it as Islamophobic. However I definitely think that more sources and examples should be added.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 04:30, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I think the word Islamophobia is blatantly discriminatory, judgmental, and POV, and should not be used at all, especially for a template that links articles to a "Series on Islamophobia". To begin, Islamophobia is a neologism that has not been accepted into mainstream language because it is as racist and discriminatory as what the label itself attempts to define. In fact, the word Islamophobia was recently nixed from the AP Stylebook, a writing style guide that's widely used by journalists and other writing professionals. The reason they gave was "-phobia, "an irrational, uncontrollable fear, often a form of mental illness" should not be used "in political or social contexts." I agree, even though we are not obligated to follow the AP Stylebook. However, the Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Words to watch does advise against contentious labeling, and the use of weasel words, WP:POVNAME, and WP:NDESC. Islamophobia is clearly contentious. If it wasn't, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Editors have been adding Islamophobia labels on organizations they unilaterally determine to be critical of Islam, which is subjective labeling, and blatantly judgmental. It is acceptable for editors to cite a reliable source that claims an organization is Islamophobic, (example: according to , "x" organization is Islamophobic), but NPOV dictates that editors must also give equal weight and balance to opposing views, WP:WEIGHT and WP:BALANCE. Also, the template includes links to secondary articles that are not related to the primary article. The links are unilaterally selected to promote a cause. It is WP:PROPAGANDA considering the list links to articles about the persecution of Muslims, genocide, governmental massacres, Qu'ran burnings, and so on. Atsme ☯ talk 21:37, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

The ever-changing world view of the label, "Islamophobia", is changing, as well it should. The AP Style Book discourages its use. The word can best be summed up rather succinctly by the following quote: "A word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons." - Christopher Hitchens I am amazed that Misplaced Pages is still allowing its use considering it is discriminatory, contentious labeling, especially in light of current world events. Even the hard core liberal, Bill Maher, is against its use as noted in his interview with Dinesh D'Souza on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, May 9, 2014. AtsmeWills☯ talk 15:20, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

What do you want to call it then? Anti-Muslim Radicalization? This is the most common known term. Your ap stylebook aregument is still irrelevent. Your quote from a blog doesn't offer anything to consider. And Bill Maher? Do do tell me more about the position of an alleged islamophobic. I do see whitewashing as useful.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 02:21, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
@Serialjoepsycho: Why don't you ask the 276 Nigerian girls who were kidnapped by Boko Haram fighters last month what they'd recommend. AtsmeWills☯ talk 02:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
@Atsme:That actually borders a justification for Islamophobia. I'm not sure why I would even remotely ask that but I'll answer. I won't ask because that would be irrelevent to this discussion. That would be like asking Lego why make blue lego's and bringing that information in to this discussion. What does this highlight exactly? Some Muslims have done bad things?Serialjoepsycho (talk) 07:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
@Serialjoepsycho: I'm not going to get into a word war with you. You clearly don't understand the meaning of "phobia". It's not a phobia when they really are trying to kill you, or force you to live under Sharia Law which is clearly a violation of human rights. Those people actually do exist, and those who wish to remain free, have learned how to recognize them. You call it a phobia - I call it intelligence. It's going to require a movement within WP to make the proper changes. I remain confident that it will happen. It's only a matter of time. AtsmeWills☯ talk 20:52, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
That is what you are having is a word war. We aren't talking about the word phobia. We are talking about the word Islamophobia. If you want to start talking lingustics it would make more since to mention the suffix -phobia instead of the word phobia. This can imply hate at some point developed by fear. You will fail at your politically correct campaign on wikipedia. Be very careful not to get banned. WP:CENSORED Misplaced Pages is not censored. What's your proposed alternative? Do you have a word in common parlance to replace it with?
As far as the rest of your rant goes wp:soapbox Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox. Good luck with promoting politically correctness. No wait that is wrong... Good luck trying to censor wikipedia.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 00:45, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
The opinions expressed about Islamophobia are pretty much split down the middle. I don't understand why it's allowed to remain under those circumstances. The fact there are so many editors who feel it's contentious and discriminatory should be enough to eliminate the label, particularly the template. Here's a positive suggestion for you - instead of agitating editors on talk pages, why don't you write a useful article? I'm working on two different articles now, and have been staying busy editing main articles, so I really don't need to be wasting my time arguing about something neither of us can change at this point in time. AtsmeWills☯ talk 16:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
That's not a very good argument since your goal is to actually remove Islamophobia from wikipedia. Misplaced Pages is not censored. Editors can get pissed about it's inclusion. That can not on the basis of original research remove it. There's no basis that you have offered that justifies it's removal. Here's a positive suggestion for you- If you do not want editors agitating you on the talk page by commenting on your comments then don't comment on a talk page. You are one that came here on May 9th adding further comment. Irrelevent comment. You might have well just quoted WP:IDL. Write a useful article? I'll just stick editing articles and discussing issues on the talk pages. I strongly suggest you do not make any changes in Islamophobia related articles to pursue the goal you have outlined above about your desire to Push POV.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 21:46, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
I am free to express my views on this page the same as anyone else. The fact that you are "strongly suggesting" that I not edit any Islamophobia related articles is intimidation, so be careful not to get yourself blocked. WP:HAR WP:HOUNDING AtsmeWills☯ talk 21:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
I wouldn't get banned for that because that is not something I've said. You can edit as many Islamophobic articles as you like. You can't however make the disruptive edits you are promoting. Wiki hounding? Harrassment? Do tell? How am I hounding you by responding to you responding to me?Serialjoepsycho (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
But by all means report me please. Let's play this game. Do it.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 23:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
@Serialjoepsycho:, actually I apologize for my out of character comments. We probably always will disagree on this subject, so I'll just end it there. AtsmeWills☯ talk 03:35, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

What you fail to understand @Atsme: is that your opinion is irrelevent. Bill Maher opinion is irrelevnt. I'm very sorry that is the case. Prejudice against, hatred towards, or fear of Muslims or of ethnic groups perceived to be Muslim has been documented for a while under the name Islamophobia. No other name has come into common parlance for this. There is no case to remove it from wikipedia and there is no case to sanitize it. Correlation does not imply causation. Your mention of the little kidnapped girls and much of the rest of it amounts to systemic bias. You wouldn't claim that Jim Jones, Joseph Kony, The IRA, Birth control clinic bombers and snipers, and ect are representitive of Christianity as a whole.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 05:06, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

This conversation...Yikes. The word Islamophobia has a documented usage and belongs on wikipedia. Now, if the template is being used in a non-neutral way to advance a POV, I can't say, but the concept is well discussed in reliable sources and therefore belongs on wikipedia. Removing the word because you perceive that there is a valid reason to be prejudiced against Muslims and therefore it is offensive to you is not a good justification. Having said that, I'd like some sourcing connecting Islamophobia to the article. I think removing it was the right choice. Bali88 (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

It wasn't removed from that article. But more sourcing was suggested.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 20:00, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Neutral notice of RfC on Investigative Project on Terrorism

Is here:Talk:Investigative_Project_on_Terrorism#RFC:_Does_the_use_of_the_Islamophobia_template_in_this_article_violate_wikipedias_policy_on_NPOV.3F.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Antisemitism in Norway

Input in the discussion here would be appreciated. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 20:43, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Misplaced Pages and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Misplaced Pages's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles related to LGBT rights may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 19:13, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Relevant discussion

See this discussion which is relevant to this project: Category_talk:Antisemitism#RFC_on_purging_individuals_and_groups. Note that I have proposed moving this discussion to this page and broadening the scope. As members of this project your input into this discussion is welcome.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:22, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Discrimination at Wikimania 2014

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

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Discussion about "she" for ships

There's a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#A much gentler proposal about changing the Manual of Style to deprecate the use of "she" for ships. As it concerns the intersection of grammatical gender with actual gender, I thought some of you might be interested. --John (talk) 07:41, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Anti-Semitic administrator adding propaganda to genocide template

Please revert this vandalism: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Genocide_topics&diff=616849343&oldid=616849268 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.89.80.250 (talk) 00:45, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Re title: please read Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks. Amongst the three links that the editor added was: 

] (1948)

The question is that is this link valid for inclusion in this category of which I am not certain. Genocide appears once in the article with ethnic cleansing being a more common term used term. I haven't yet checked to see how well this is applied but see also links to a book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.

Gregkaye (talk) 04:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Change is made. Gregkaye (talk) 05:19, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Should Islamophobia be included in the main Discrimination sidebar

See discussion here at Template_talk:Discrimination_sidebar#Inclusion_or_removal_of_Antisemitism.2C_Anti-Masonry_and_Islamophobia Jonpatterns (talk) 10:48, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Racist sundown town signs

Can anyone find pictures of racist signs that were once in "sundown towns" like Vidor, Texas? They said things like "don't let the sun set on you here", "read this and run; and if you can't read, run anyway", or "if you ain't white, don't get caught here at night". 173.51.123.97 (talk) 23:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Idea to rename portal and templates to: Prejudice and discrimination

I have created and with help developed a navigation for Category:Prejudice and discrimination and its subcategories.

it currently reads:
Navigation, for "types of" categories within a "parent category":Prejudice and discrimination.
Parallel Subcategories: Bias‎, Discrimination, Persecution, Prejudices, Stereotypes, and Xenophobia.

with variation on subcategory pages:

Parallel categories at this level: Bias‎, Discrimination, Persecution, Prejudices, Stereotypes, and Xenophobia.

(Discussion on content of the navigation is at: Category talk:Prejudice and discrimination)

It seemed to me that this was a good way of coordinating categories and this got me thinking of possible knock on effects.

I was wondering whether consistency might be achieved by renaming the portal and related templates etc. as: Prejudice and discrimination.

Gregkaye (talk) 04:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Antisemitism to Anti-Semitism

Discussion currently at: Talk:Antisemitism#Requested move

Gregkaye (talk) 04:30, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Personal infoboxes in relation to patriotism and nationalism

I have started a discussion at Template_talk:Infobox_person#Citizenship suggesting a change of emphasis to a Citizenship entry from the Nationality entry.

This was due to a POV in favour of promoting Patriotism rather than Nationalism and to allow more flexibility in regards to possible terminolologies that can be used. Gregkaye (talk) 11:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment on missing white woman syndrome

We're discussing the appropriateness of including White supremacy as a see also link on the article Missing white woman syndrome. An editor put links to both White privilege and White supremacy on the page. I feel that white privilege is absolutely relevant and a great link to add. However, I don't feel that white supremacy is related enough to be included on the page. I'd love some additional opinions on the topic. Bali88 (talk) 00:21, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

definition of "bigot" and "bigotry"

i insist that the be removed from the definition "bigot" and "bigotry"

no i do not want to politicize it by stating you can or cannot choose ones sexuality (despite its been proven you can and admitted by K.D lang on an australia radio called b105 station many years ago along side a lesbian D.J stating and I quote "its a life style choice" and ironically its the only subject that can be generalized unless you're saying some are born gay and some aren't

point being is, to be fair and not take ANY sides, "sexual orientation" should be removed so no one can promote the pro or anti side agenda, it is not fair to be biased abusing the wiki pages by promoting ones OWN agenda

lets not forget homosexuality is a taboo no different to incest, beastilaity, pedophilia etc

this is not an opinion but a fact, it was both an arrestable offence AND it was illegal

so if its "bigotry" to discriminate against homosexuality by that theory the other taboos should be classified into this definition as well i.e not excepting pedophilia makes people eg. a pedoPHOBE and a BIGOT

infact if you google define bigotry you get "intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself."

so the other taboos fit into this category of being discriminated against and thus making these people "bigots"

i successfully changed the definition as the other person who kept fixing my changes eventually allowed me to not change the definition but AT LEAST leave "sexual orientation" off the list, I added my reasons on the bottom window with full explanation why, it was accepted, now its been changed back. The creator of the definition page is biased and won't see reason. The wiki pages should be a source of fact and not a place to promote your biased opinions. If you won't allow other facts and opinions by way of addition facts then remove one of yours so we can meet in the middle in agreement — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astro2 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Quick question: how is this different from you promoting a biased opinion? I disagree with your proposed changes. When I get home tonight, I'll look at what we have in terms of reliable sources, but I'm fairly certain that your viewpoint is not supported by them. Bali88 (talk) 15:22, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
  1. https://www.google.com.au/#q=define+bigotry

Expanding and reorganizing Social cleansing

Hello! I am a student at Rice University completing coursework for my Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities minor. I hope to majorly expand and reorganize the existing page on social cleansing.

I have found that the description of the issue is extremely limited, as the article is a stub rated start-class by 6 different WikiProjects, including WikiProject Human rights, where it is rated mid-importance. I would like to expand the introduction and definition to more comprehensively cover the issue as it has been explained by scholars and also provide a brief history on the development of the term and the phenomenon. I would additionally like to completely reorganize the article by continent instead of country, as I see a lot of similarities in social cleansing in the countries already discussed. I intend to provide scholarly sources from journals and reports from human rights commissions.

I think that this issue is entirely relevant to WikiProject Discrimination, and I have added it as part of the project. Since the talk page on this article has been minimal since 2009, I would really appreciate feedback and suggestions as I plan to edit this page. Rgalts (talk) 06:52, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Misplaced Pages struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

big mountain club/whitefish mountain (montana)

sources:

this story seems to be related to at least 4 different existing articles:

should we cover the event and the response to it? which should be our primary article? I'm leaning toward having National Policy Institute be the primary one. the others can link to the new section as needed. --Jeremyb (talk) 10:36, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Article up for deletion

The Hands Up United article under the scope of this project is currently up for deletion. Discussion here: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hands Up United Hmlarson (talk) 19:15, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

RfC United States same-sex marriage map

I opened up an RfC for the U.S. same-sex marriage map due to the complicated situation of Kansas: RfC: How should we color Kansas?. Prcc27 (talk) 04:43, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Request for comments on tagging BLPs as part of this project

User:Zigzig20s recently added {{WikiProject Discrimination}} to the talk pages of two BLPs (Amy Pascal and Scott Rudin) - people in the film industry who have apologised for making comments in emails considered to be racially discriminatory. I reverted as I thought this wasn't an appropriate use of the template. It seems to me that tagging in this way raises BLP issues, as it implies that discrimination is highly relevant to these people - to me, it suggests 'this person is a bigot' without saying it. I also feel they fall outside of the project's scope. Zigzig20s disagreed and restored the templates. (See the brief discussion on my talk page.) Could any member of the project provide a third opinion on this one? Robofish (talk) 00:29, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I would stress that it sounds like you are misunderstanding WP tags. Nobody is calling anyone the b word. The aim of WP tags is to encourage editors interested in such topics to edit them; for example gay icons who may not be gay will have a WP LGBT Studies tag, as those editors are more likely to edit those pages. (see Madonna) Btw, it is irrelevant whether they apologized or not.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Request for comments at Talk:White supremacy

There is a request for comments at Talk:White supremacy. It concerns the wording of the opening sentence of the lead. 86.170.130.156 (talk) 02:11, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

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Interview for The Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Discrimination for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Thanks, Rcsprinter123 (vent) @ 20:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


Nomination of Evaluative diversity for deletion

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Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Discrimination to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Discrimination/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the Tool Labs tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 15:46, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Revisions to Housing Segregation article

I am planning on editing and restructuring the current Housing Segregation article. It belongs in the scope of WikiProject Discrimination and is rated Start-Class, Mid-Importance. I hope that my edits will bring up both the quality and importance of this article. It is currently lacking in depth of content and use of scholarly sources. I plan to provide a holistic coverage of this topic by adding material from reputable sources such as peer-review journal articles, published books, and articles from academic journals.

I plan on adding a "Causes of housing segregation" section, an "Effects of housing segregation section", and an "Initiatives against housing segregation section". My hope is that by adding material in these new sections, there will be a more comprehensive coverage of the topic. In addition, I plan on revising the current "History of housing discrimination" section by adding more content and creating two sub-sections: "Legislation" and "Government agencies". The legislation sub-section will focus on laws passed regarding housing discrimination while the government agencies sub-section will focus on the various government bodies dealing with housing segregation issues. I also want to focus on other minority groups affected by this issue, as the page currently focuses on the effects of housing segregation on the African American community.

If anyone is interested in this modern form of discrimination through housing segregation, I would appreciate any and all feedback comments on the best ways to improve this article. I would love references to even more scholarly sources pertaining to the topic. Thank you. Aaie21 (talk) 00:44, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Revisions to 'Trans bashing'

I am a student working on the article 'Trans bashing' and I have some revisions that I would like to make to the page. I would like to change the name of the page to 'Transgender violence' and greatly expand it to include policies and attitudes globally, religious views on transgenderism, and differences in attitudes within various communities. Please let me know if any other users have feedback. BSchilling (talk) 06:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Note: This matter has also been discussed at the WP:LGBT talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 20:19, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Primary School invitation

Hi everybody. On behalf of the teams behind the Misplaced Pages Primary School research project, I would like to announce that the articles Apartheid and Sexism (of interest to this wikiproject) were selected a while ago to be reviewed by external experts. We'd now like to ask interested editors to join our efforts and improve the articles before March 15, 2015 (any timezone) as they see fit; a revision will be then sent to the designated experts for review (for details, please see each articles' talk page). Any notes and remarks written by the external experts will be made available on the articles' talk pages under a CC-BY-SA license as soon as possible, so that you can read them, discuss them and then decide if and how to use them. Please sign up here to let us know you're collaborating. Thanks a lot for your support! Elitre (WPS) (talk) 16:57, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Propose widening the topic area of "Racism in ..." articles through moves to "Racism and prejudice in ..." or "Discrimination and racism in" titles

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I think that there is an imbalance in the treatment of different forms of discrimination within Misplaced Pages. In the current condition of Misplaced Pages:

All the same I think that there is a potential lack of coverage of other non racially motivated forms of prejudice.

The Template:Discrimination sidebar lists "general forms" of discrimination as follows"

If there are any particularly notable issues in regard to any of these forms of prejudice in any particular location then I think that there should be a platform within Misplaced Pages for the presentation of related content.

When weighing up possible titles I did the following searches in books which showed that:

Personally I prefer the "Racism and prejudice in ..." format as both titles deal with attitudes. My thought here was that perhaps the Human rights articles could deal with results.

It may also be notable that other books searches revealed that:

None the less I thought that articles might start with a topic change to something like "Racism and prejudice in ..." and then, if content develops, further moves or divisions of article content may occur at a later date.

Please give comments in terms of Support or Oppose and add any further comment for instance in regard to preferred title. Thanks.

GregKaye 16:52, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Clarify - Are you proposing we start moving "Racism in ..." articles to "Racism and prejudice in ...". Can you give a simple practical example of article you'd like to rename/create? NickCT (talk) 18:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose any blanket move or other wide-spread change. These articles are generally based on the context of the subject and its history; if a country (or other subject) has a long history of racism in particular, it is appropriate for it to have an article here discussing that racism, and it seems like it'd be inappropriate and unhelpful to turn that article into a general dropping-ground for all forms of prejudice. If a particular country (or other subject) has enough of a history of other forms of prejudice to form an article, we could start a separate article; and if multiple forms of prejudice in a particular topic seem tightly entwined (or if none of them have enough material to support their own articles), we could combine them into one article for that specific topic. But I don't see any particular benefit to lumping all forms of prejudice together as a general rule. --Aquillion (talk) 07:14, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose any blanket move or other wide-spread change. As per Aquillion, and, because, like NickCT, I am unclear as to precisely what is being proposed.Pincrete (talk) 16:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Should the language of this article be softened?

There is a RfC underway at Talk:2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident#RfC: Should the language of this article be softened? on what language can be used to describe that incident, opinions welcome. Artw (talk) 21:03, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

There is also a disagreement about whether the article should be included in this project or not. The section is here: Talk:2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident#WikiProjects Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 23:39, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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