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I see that an off-topic question was hatted by ]. While I agree that the question was irrelevant, I would submit that experience at the Reference Desk indicates that ignoring the question or saying that we won't respond to the question is better than hatting it, which may even result in a ]. Your opinion may be different, but I would not like to see hatting of questions, even off-topic questions, become a practice here. ] (]) 21:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC) I see that an off-topic question was hatted by ]. While I agree that the question was irrelevant, I would submit that experience at the Reference Desk indicates that ignoring the question or saying that we won't respond to the question is better than hatting it, which may even result in a ]. Your opinion may be different, but I would not like to see hatting of questions, even off-topic questions, become a practice here. ] (]) 21:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
:Considering the readership of the Help Desk, I think a Streisand effect most unlikely here. And as a contributor, I want to be able to find questions which I can usefully answer: this is not helped by having to read past swathes of out-of-place content. I don't think actual questions should be hatted; but the irrelevant material that sometimes follows them, and the entire draft articles or other stuff that is sometimes posted in place of a question, should be. ] (]) 06:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC) :Considering the readership of the Help Desk, I think a Streisand effect most unlikely here. And as a contributor, I want to be able to find questions which I can usefully answer: this is not helped by having to read past swathes of out-of-place content. I don't think actual questions should be hatted; but the irrelevant material that sometimes follows them, and the entire draft articles or other stuff that is sometimes posted in place of a question, should be. ] (]) 06:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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Can we also have skip to table of contents?

Currently there is only a Skip to bottom displayed at the top of the page. Can we also have a Skip to TOC? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 03:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Maybe it's something I have set in my preferences that provides it for me but I already have a little toolbox in the lower right of my browser window that provides that option. Plus a couple more. In all, it has "Top of page, TOC, Today's posts, and Bottom of page". Dismas| 03:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Reference Desks, again

Two weeks ago a mention was made of controversy at the Reference Desks, and that the Help Desk does a better and more businesslike job of answering questions, including dealing with trolls and flamers, than the Reference Desks. A Request for Comments is in progress at the Reference Desk talk page. Your attention is welcome. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:01, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Convenience link to the RfC. It seeks outside opinions on whether the guidelines for the Reference Desks should be decided by local consensus. I can't get my head round this combination of recursion and contradiction. Maproom (talk) 09:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

"Also" in the header

In WP:HD#New Article, Sandbox the OP explained having posted their question at both here and the Teahouse by having seen "New users: While this is a good place to ask questions, you may also ask your questions at the Teahouse, an area specifically for new users to get help with editing, article creation, and general Misplaced Pages use, in a friendly environment." in the header. I would like to change "also" to "alternatively" in the template. Comments? --ColinFine (talk) 21:30, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:46, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Or, "you may prefer the Teahouse..."? ―Mandruss  22:21, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
I tweaked it to read: new users may prefer to ask their questions at...--ukexpat (talk) 12:33, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

RfC about Referencing tutorial

Pls see Help talk:Referencing for beginners#RfC: What method first -- Moxy (talk) 15:46, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Motorbike problem

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:1005:76B9:C70:716F:7513:13FF (talk) 04:58, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

This question is misplaced. I suggest you try the Science reference desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:36, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Should be interesting, motorcycle mechanics from a science perspective. I'd suggest looking into better sites for this kind of question. ―Mandruss  06:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
@Mandruss: The science ref desk claims to covers engineering, but you are right, of course. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:15, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

BLPs

I see that very often, as soon as an issue is posted to the Help Desk about a biography of a living person, the BLP gets cleaned up quickly. While the biographies of living persons noticeboard is a recommended place to discuss issues about BLPs, the Help Desk turns out also to be a good place to raise issues about BLPs. Thank you to the editors who watch the Help Desk in order to maintain the accuracy and verifiability of BLPs. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Irrelvant Posting of French Flags

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#The_Rape_of_Nanking <- Is anybody else seeing this? It doesn't come up when I edit (to answer the question). KägeTorä - () (もしもし!) 09:23, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

 Fixed with a {{reflist-talk}} in an earlier section. ―Mandruss  09:37, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Hatting

I see that an off-topic question was hatted by User:AndyTheGrump. While I agree that the question was irrelevant, I would submit that experience at the Reference Desk indicates that ignoring the question or saying that we won't respond to the question is better than hatting it, which may even result in a Streisand effect. Your opinion may be different, but I would not like to see hatting of questions, even off-topic questions, become a practice here. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Considering the readership of the Help Desk, I think a Streisand effect most unlikely here. And as a contributor, I want to be able to find questions which I can usefully answer: this is not helped by having to read past swathes of out-of-place content. I don't think actual questions should be hatted; but the irrelevant material that sometimes follows them, and the entire draft articles or other stuff that is sometimes posted in place of a question, should be. Maproom (talk) 06:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Notice of IRC proposal

There is a proposal related to Misplaced Pages's live help at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#IRC help channel disclaimer. PHANTOMTECH (talk) 16:46, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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