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ISB

I know your still off, but when you get back I was wondering if you can help me with something. I have been working on the Changing Horses album by the ISB for some time now. I need to add some more background info, and I'll have a book soon called Gently Tender that will describe the recording sessions. So I wanted to get an exact release date, but all I can find is November 1969. Could you possibly direct me to something that potentially has exact release dates? Big help if you could, thanks and get back soon! TheGracefulSlick ( talk) April 4, 2015 22:07

Sorry, can't find a specific date. I'll copy-edit your ISB articles a little when I have some time - not sure when that will be as I'll be away for a week or two. But, before I go, I'll be off down the road (literally a hundred yards or so away) to see Mr Williamson himself - - should be a treat! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Rotherham Sex Scandal Article

Hello Ghmyrtle, I hope you are well? I've reverted your revert on the Guardian cite because in this case I believe it is relevant considering the degree of anger over the use of the weasel-word 'Asian' rather than 'Muslim' (re: Rotherham Sex Scandal) by said community in relation to child sex abuse, Iman Amrani is a very respected Algerian British freelance journalist who happens to be Muslim and brought neutrality to the issue which I believe has great credence and although it was in the commentary section on this occasion she often writes for the paper in other sections. Best wishes as always. Twobells 10:30, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Update, I see you've used a 2nd argument for removal, please let me quote from the piece: She went on to conclude that “one of these myths was that only white girls are victims of sexual exploitation by Asian or Muslim males, as if these men only abuse outside of their own community, driven by hatred and contempt for white females.. Twobells 10:33, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

The source does not support the claim that the criminals concerned were "of the Muslim faith". Also, you have duplicated a sentence... and you persist in using bare URLs rather than proper citation styles - please see WP:IC and WP:BAREURLS. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Montanabw/Duck box

Hi, I don't mean to involve you in this, but it's concerning. Apparently, I'm being deemed a sock puppet because I'm both a teenager and like older music. I tried to get the user to remove me from the list, since the grounding is meaningless, but no luck. Perhaps you could have a take on it, since you have been here longer. TheGracefulSlick (talk)

Check out the Garage rock article!!!

I have made some additions and improvements to the Garage rock article that I think you will really love. I feel that I have done so with the trust you have placed in me as an editor--and I think you will be satisfied. Of course, if you see anything that could be improved, go right ahead. I made mentions of the changes made, under one of the threads on the talk page of that article. Thanks. Garagepunk66 (talk) 00:35, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I also added a well-sourced section about the female bands, that I think you would like to see. I did't list sources for the last sentence, because all that it does is enumerate the names of bands, in blue, that already have articles. I checked to make sure all articles mentioned were sourced. However, if need be, I can cite references in that sentence too, if you think it would be a good idea. My comments on the Pleasure Seekers are sourced, but I noticed that the article on them needs more references and citations. Most of its contents look correct, to my best judgment, but we are going to have to make some improvements on that article. TheGracefulSlick (talk), has indicated that she would like to get better sourcing in some of these articles. Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

"...she..."  ?? Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I just learned that "she" is a he. Oh well, its the 21st century! Wiki's keepin' up with the times.Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:30, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the touch-ups in the "Female garage bands" section. As you can see, I was really struggling with the opening phrase. I like that way you have worded it. 24.248.13.194 (talk) 19:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Don Robey

Thanks for the assist. I like my new edit much more than the previous. Howzzat? Tapered (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

OK. The article does need expanding though - some direct quotes from musicians, etc., would be good to include. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

http://www.thesoulbasement.com/Site/Duke-Peacock.html More information on Robey-some of which could be included can be found above. dorkinglad (talk)

You're a legend! Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Blimey Adrian is being a tad OTT! Legend indeed! I'm not even that well known in my own house. We have a good laugh when we meet up for a Radio Show. I'm doing a Candi Staton special with Adrian next month if you are interested. I've just checked the Don Robey Misplaced Pages entry and put some comments. The article is very biased against Robey and needs serious editing. I don't think the guy who wrote it will let people edit though. dorkinglad (talk)

Re Robey - I've commented on the talk page, and made an initial change to the opening para. I don't think you should have any worries about any particular editor - the one you're thinking of has certainly made some changes to the article, but so have I (here, back in 2006, for example); there are many other editors who might have an interest in the article (it might be interesting to know what Pstoller thinks, for example!); and we are all under an equal requirement to stay neutral and balanced. I will happily re-edit the article at some point, but the next couple of weeks might be difficult for me. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:51, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll take a look when I have some time. Robey was no angel, but he deserves a lot of credit for his accomplishments, and his entry should be balanced to reflect that. Pstoller (talk) 05:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Sandy Edmonds

You always have an expertise at finding info so I was wondering if you could find the birth date of Sandy Edmonds, a pop idol who was popular in the 1960s in New Zealand. She is the focus of my upcoming article, so it would be a huge help. ( TheGracefulSlick ( talk)

Looks like you've done well already! It seems she was born in 1948 (not 1949), at Ormskirk, which is a few miles outside Liverpool. This official record (but subscription-only) says she was born Rosalie L Edmondson. Not sure whether you've seen these sites - , , , , , , , , , ... etc. Certainly worthy of an article - good find! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

PS: Any reason why you usually sign using only three of these ~ instead of four? WP:SIGHOW - four tildes is usual practice, and it helps keep track of who did what when (which can become important in any disputes, etc.) Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, greatly appreciated, I saw some, but not all of these sources. This will be a big help when I start writing later today. And it is good I have confirmation on the date. I will try to use the right signature again, sorry. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 5:37 14 April 2015

Great earrings!!..... !!... and !!!!. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:49, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh my gosh, you are right! Such an intriguing woman. I don't know why her manager didn't like her singing, I thought it was genuinely good. Surprisingly, in one of my many boxes of CDs, I found a compilation of her work. Funny how that works, I guess I knew her longer than I expected. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 8:27, 14 April 2015

Tammi Terrell

Hi, Sorry about the incorrect information on Tammi/Ernie Terrell. I've just spent a half hour trying to prove that they did marry. I can't find anything conclusive. The rumour seems to have started at the time of her first record for Motown. The ever sharp Berry Gordy thought Montgomery, her actual surname was too long, even though she had recorded all ready under that name. (information from 'The Complete Motown singles Vol 5'). BTW I see a mention of record producer Don Robey on your page. I once wrote an article on him that is now on the net on the 'Basement Sounds' website. best Greg dorkinglad (talk)

Thanks. Yes, it's best not to reinforce false information that's around on the web - and which has been repeated by several authoritative writers, sad to say. I think the consensus among the people who knew her well - including her sister - is that she and Ernie Terrell didn't know each other, and the story about Berry Gordy renaming her because the name Montgomery was too long is correct. No doubt some of the confusion is that Jean Terrell of the Supremes was Ernie's sister. Re Don Robey - yes, his tangled story needs a lot of rewriting here. I'll try to get round to it sometime, if no-one else gets in first, but I probably can't work on it immediately as I'll be away. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Anti-British sentiment

Hi, If you think that the one line that currently exists is justified I have nothing more to say to you.

Came across a really bad (!!!) article!!!

I just stumbled across the worst article I have ever seen called Freak scene!!! I cannot decide whether or not the whole thing is a complete farce. It seems as if the editors there just want to make up a whole new definition of an imagined past subculture and musical genre out of thin air. It has almost no sources. Looks like the whole thing needs to go the trash heap (or at least get a radical makeover). It's so bad, its good! Check it out! Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree - I've commented there. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:24, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

US 'Won't Get Wales'

Quite amazing. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:46, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

One wonders if they would even be helped by suitable hand gestores. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Vendetta?

Not at all. I see some articles which I don't believe have notability some with false claims in the beginning of the passages and some with few if any notable sources. CrazyAces489 (talk) 13:53, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

What "false claims"? Your claim that Dinah Washington "sang in a rock band" is bizarre, and untrue. I'm confident that the articles meet notability guidelines (indeed, one of them went through AFD just a few weeks ago). If you have a problem with the articles, help improve them. Given that all the articles you've nominated for deletion in the last few minutes have been written by a single editor, the idea that - for some reason - you are pursuing a vendetta is by no means "ridiculous". Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Grace Slick was before Barb. I am helping to improve them. A notability tag. I can understand based on your editing history that you have an interest in keeping these articles up. They do have to be notable. A tag is easily placed on an article and articles created is easily viewable. I placed a tag on and you didn't remove that one! Past that, don't go on my talk page again. Thank you. CrazyAces489 (talk) 14:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm aware of the notability guidelines, and of Grace Slick. As I suggested, we are talking about (apparently) a new, young, and highly enthusiastic editor - the sort of person who we should be encouraging. Most of their articles need to be improved, with better references, and more encyclopedic language. That can easily be done, given time. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

It appears the user is putting up the Bo Street Runners for deletion, and attacked other articles I wrote. Sorry for getting you involved, but the user is taking things too personally. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 11:05, 15 April 2015

Mmm.. See Misplaced Pages:Deletionists. So long as you can defend your articles in terms of the notability guidelines - and different editors interpret them differently - there shouldn't really be a problem. Annoying, though, I know. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)