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Beh-nam

Beh-nam (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Report date February 2 2009, 05:36 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets



Evidence submitted by Kingturtle (talk)

At Muhammad_of_Ghor: Here MohammedZahirShah adds a CE Bosworth citation and Persian/Tajik stock information. Here Beh-nam added the CE Bosworth citation; here a Beh-nam sockpuppet added Persian/Tajik information; here Beh-nam added Tajik stock info.

At Logar Province: Here MohammedZahirShah changes link in article to read Dari-Persian; here a sock puppet of Beh-nam changed link in article to read Dari-Persian.

If you need more, let me know.

Kingturtle (talk) 05:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

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Checkuser request – code letter: B (Ongoing serious pattern vandalism )
Current status – Completed: Reviewed by a Checkuser, results and comments are below.
Conclusions
This case has been marked as closed. It has been archived automatically.



Report date May 27 2009, 03:06 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence submitted by Enric Naval


  • Supporting evidence: removing images from Pashtun people because "they are not pashtun", using a variety of bad rationales. Similar edit by other sock . Other sock also removing images because it doesn't fit his strict interpretation of "Pahstun" other socks fighting about images in that article . Beh-nam himself already fought over images at the article .

Enric Naval (talk) 03:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I see that this use was tagged by ] (talk · contribs). I suspect that this guy could be indef-blocked ] (talk · contribs), who falsely labelled editors he disagreed with as sockpuppets of Ben-ham. Please checkuser him too to verify if it's Nisarkand again trying to mislead people. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

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Indef Blocked + tagged User:Abidreh. The Helpful One 21:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Just as an comment, I unblocked this account after Check User confirmed that the IP was stale. The Helpful One 23:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


Conclusions

 Stale - Beh-nam is stale, and the IPs on the other user don't match anything in the archives. --Versageek 21:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Based on CU data, this is neither NisarKand nor Beh-nam. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 02:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
This case has been marked as closed. It has been archived automatically.
17 September 2010
Suspected sockpuppets



Evidence submitted by Raoulduke47

Inuit18 is undoubtedly a sockof banned user Beh-nam. The edit pattern is the same as all his past socks: they consist in editing Afghanistan-related topics, and generally glorifying Persian culture and emphasizing Tajik ethnicity whenver possible, . Compare with an edit of a past sock: supporting the same edit. At Logar Province: Here Inuit18 changes link in article to read Dari-Persian; here a sock puppet of Beh-nam changed link in article to read Dari-Persian.

His behaviour is highly disruptive as he frequently gets into edit wars with other users, indeed this account has already been indef blocked for doing just that, though this was later rescinded. Raoulduke47 (talk) 13:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Some more evidence:

  • As already stated, a lot of his edits consist in emphasizing Tajik ethnicity(,),just like other Behnam socks(, ,)and campaigning against the use of the word "Afghan"(, ), like other Behnam socks(, )
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  • That's good, I've done a check. Unfortunately, everything else is  Stale, so I have nothing to compare this user to. However, I did geolocate Inuit18's IP addresses along with some of the ones in Behnam's sockpuppet category, and based solely on that, Inuit seems to be unrelated. Officially, however, I'm going to say  Inconclusive due to the lack of data. If someone else has notes on this guy, they may be of more use, but when I scanned through the confirmed socks category, it looked like most of the socks were from 2008, so I wouldn't hold out much hope there. Hersfold 16:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
It's been a couple of days, it doesn't look like anything is forthcoming. I'll mark for close. TNXMan 11:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
25 May 2014
Suspected sockpuppets

Same commenting style: Barakzai1919 Feysalafghan Observerpashtun LouisAragon's

Same disruptive activities, spreading Pan-Iranianism, and adding personal analysis, etc. Abusing South Asians Calling every Pakistani editor a Pakistani nationalist , messing up well written Afghanistan related articles by constantly inserting in them "the region of nowadays Afghanistan" when that country was created in 1747. This IP is in fact LouisAragon, both distinctly type "PoV" in edit summaries and both edit the same articles.

Looking at these 2 diffs it doesn't take a genius to figure out that LouisAragon and Feysalafghan are both the same person. These 2 diffs makes it more certain. Both behave the same and share the same ideology, and show the same hostility to a particular group of people.

Beh-nam was an extremely racist editor who used so many socks in the past for edit-warring on Afghanistan related pages, spreading Pan-Iranianism, attacking South Asian editors, and behaving just like the suspected socks in this new case. Some of his confirmed socks are User:Barakzai, User:RealAfghan112, User:Qandahari-Pashtun, User:StevenLeClark, User:SarbanFan1970). These are almost identical to the current suspected socks, and they all edit the same area in Misplaced Pages and share the same view point on stuff, especially when it comes to certain races or people. 39.47.158.101 (talk) 02:03, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

  • I guess I would first do a CU on LouisAragon (talk · contribs) because that's the main one that he's using right now. All of the suspects appeared recently at the same page (Pashtun people) , a page Beh-nam used to edit the same way. He has admitted many times in the past that he's ethnic Tajik . It's very easy to notice him because he's editing Afghanistan related articles in which he tries to defame Afghans and favor Persians/Iranians, he's doing the same exact actions right now with the LouisAragon account on all Afghan related pages. In addition to that, he's the only person (since 2006) that hates the idea of Afghanistan being included in South Asia and has tried making it part of Central Asia/Middle East by vandalizing pages. --39.41.134.92 (talk) 18:42, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
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Eh, I have no idea why people brought me up here, but they can do all IP/sockpuppet/whatever tests they want on me. IP:39.41.134.92 = User:Alien from Afghanistan. One delusional user who calls me things I'm not, both right now, and before (according to him I'm Tajik, Afghan, and living in Canada, I really don't know where he gets this BS from), and who sees anti-Afghanistan editors (especially socks of this so called User:Beh-nam?) in everyone. Please don't waste my time with this. - LouisAragon (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

You calling me delusional? Do you know what that word means and who it applies to? May I remind you your own very statement to Alien from Afghanistan, quote: "It seems to me you have severe inferiority complexion like many diasporean Afghans, wich is quite understandable given the shitty history and reputation it has, and the shithole it still is nowadays. Pure barbarianism, tribalism, perpetual refugees, being ruled by foreigners for millennia, and child molesting seems to be interchangeable with people from that region." - That tells us that you're anti-Afghanistan and don't play dumb now. It proves that you are racist and you got caught red handed. What's even more disruptive is that you create names such as LouisAragon in order to hide as a white person from the West and give bad reputation to them. That's obviously not your name.--39.41.134.92 (talk) 20:47, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Gentlemen, this is not the place to continue this dispute. All that matters here is whether abusive sockpuppetry is happening. A checkuser has been endorsed. We don't need to continue this. Lower your sabers. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 20:51, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, these connections were brought up at my user talk the other day, and I personally didn't see anything in them... but upon reflection, I'm not familiar enough with the subject matter nor the history of behavioral disputes in the topic area to say for sure. Anyway, looks like a CU is going to be run, so that's all I have to say. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 19:43, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

  • You know, I've been noticing on a lot of Persian - related articles, this user has been very aggressively and unilaterally removing and adding various details and so-called "facts" as he pleases; some of his older edits seem to be even faintly racist against other Middle Eastern peoples, such as Afghans and Turks; his only main argument for these is that some viewpoints are "POV" but in replacing them with his own edits, he merely adds his own, usually even more unbalanced "POV" to articles. I also happened to noticed that he was engaged in several heated arguments with multiple users over edit-warring in the past, as his talk page easily shows, and has received complaints in the past, despite his deletions of the relevant discussions (for example:), and seems to only believe his own edits are somehow absolute and inviolable, all coloured with a thinly veiled ethnocentric Persian-nationalist leaning.

A quick look also seems to indicate that he has edited on Persian-related articles on Dutch Misplaced Pages, all but proving that he edits from somewhere in the Netherlands. I admire his fervour in a way, but he must learn to stop inserting his own opinionated "facts" on every article that catches his fancy, and respect others and their perspectives more as well. In all honesty, I find it extremely difficult to consider him a truly objective or mature member of this Wikipedian community; carefully look through the hundreds of user contributions of these accounts and tell me otherwise. 128.122.89.215 (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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31 August 2014
Suspected sockpuppets

Same name style ; editing same area (Taliban/Deobandi/Sunnis); uploading copyrighted images under false licenses .

He only comes to Misplaced Pages to distort information, , under socks and edit-war. He stopped using LouisAragon because that one is hanging by a thin rope. With the lastest sock he's trying to change his English from that of LouisAragon. 39.41.14.10 (talk) 12:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

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 Clerk endorsed. I would have liked to see a few more diffs comparing the two new socks with the master or a confirmed sock, but there's just enough to endorse the CU. Probably immaterial, but Gazkthul's name was changed by a 'crat at the end of 2012 from User:Pmolloy291.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:41, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I blocked the IP for three months. He's been blocked before and it was a no-brainer.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:43, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
03 January 2015
Suspected sockpuppets

Issac Watson was just created for praising one of his socks(94.210.203.230) changes-, This was a prefect edit, just like 50.65.101.8, This is a perfect edit. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:59, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes I had thought that 84.241.200.207 is him, but the IP told he was unaware of recovering banned editors contributions. I just thought of leaving it out, will see if the IP recovers any of his contributions again.

Beh-nam seems to have stated that he comes from Canada.

Even in previous reports, we have seen that CU results were inconclusive and socks were blocked due to their behavioral match. There is possibility that the user has a good collection of various IP addresses. Bladesmulti (talk) 08:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Bbb23, 84.241 is indeed him, now there's no 2nd opinion. He just recovered the edits of 94.210 on Iranians in Pakistan with 84.241.192.196 and also on Tehran. Also 84.241.210.151 and 84.241.194.174. IP is dynamic. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:42, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Another?(89.146.46.242} it is also from Netherlands and it is an obvious duck IP, otherwise who else will make a false claim that this citation doesn't mention Iranians. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for writing Callanecc, I read the given link, yes they are all made by a Beh-nam/94.210. Seems like these changes were removed by other person- for exactly same reasons. Beh-nam/94.210 is specifically vandalizing the articles of Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey. Right after knowing that it becomes easier to acknowledge that it is indeed him. Bladesmulti (talk) 02:09, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Bbb23, I think that it shouldn't be removed as you haven't removed the below comments of this sock, but it would be better if we hat each of them and tag the templates with <nowiki> </nowiki>. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. My opinion as a bypasser. I was there back in the day then when Beh-nam was being blocked every few days on his socks. Beh-nam is a Canadian based user. 84 and 94 are Netherlands based users. Besides, so far the only edits on 84 are on Iranian related articles, and if you take another look, his reversion on the Iranians in Pakistan article was completely rightful as they are falsification of the sources (they dont mention a thing about the added statement given in the article) Beh-nam was a self admitted Afghan from Canada who hated South Asians and solely commented on South Asian related articles. I dont see how, knowing this, he can be in any way connected to these IPs. Take a look at the content of the edits they made and Beh-nams. 89.146.46.242 (talk) 16:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Then why you are obsessed with Turks like Beh-nam? Bladesmulti (talk) 16:54, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
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 Clerk declined. @Bladesmulti: The CU request is not possible as any data is stale. In addition, I'm puzzled by the interplay here. As you know, I blocked User:94.210.203.230 for six months, a known IP address used by the master (see archives). FWIW, 94 geolocates to the Netherlands. You didn't list 84.241.200.27 (talk · contribs · count) who reinistated three of 94's edits and who also geolocates to the Netherlands. The IP you did list (50) made only one edit at the Achaemenid Empire article, and it was not to reinstate 94's edit. It was obovious vandalism. Isaac Watson appears to endorse 50's edit, but at the same time reinstates 94's edit. 50 geolocates to Canada, but I'm not sure if that's where the person is located based on certain characteristics also described at geolocate. The named account has made only the two edits. I'm inclined to block based on duck, simply because they reinstated 94's edits on two pages and the timing coming right on the heels of my blocking 94. I'd like to hear your thoughts, though, based on my comments. At this point at least the disruption is minimal (compared to 94, for example).--Bbb23 (talk) 08:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bladesmulti: I agree that the IPs are socks. However, they are using wireless services that make it easy for them to hop around. To block just those three IPs, a range block (84.241.192.0/19) would affect 8,192 users. I'd like some input on the best way to handle this from Callanecc, who is more experienced in these matters. Thanks for the update.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I believe that 89.146.46.242 (talk · contribs · count) is using a Dutch webhost. They are in a different range from the 84 series, obviously. For the moment, I'm not blocking them until Callanecc has a chance to respond. However, if they disrupt articles, please let me know.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:48, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
89.146.46.0/24 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) looks like a webhost to me as well so I've blocked it. Regarding the /19 have a look at the contrib list here and check how many are Beh-nam and hence collateral (doesn't look to bad to me but will need the anonblock or rangeblock templates (in addition to a link here) as it is being used by others. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
@Callanecc: I don't see a problem with the /19 list (took a long time to respond, though). All the articles I believe are related to Beh-nam's interests and why would someone using a Dutch web host edit those articles? As for the templates, I need to know how we document and what we document as I have little experience in this. Thanks.
Please see the case below and my comment. Should I let it go to archives or should I delete it? On the one hand, I don't like the archive being cluttered by these rambling arguments by Beh-nam, but, on the other hand, it serves to reinforce the findings more than any analysis we could write ourselves.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
05 January 2015
Suspected sockpuppets

Same old MO as some of these IPs; first edit is to report Bladesmulti for edit warring on AN3, user claims to be "new" but blatantly isn't. AIV request filed as well as per "obvious sock is obvious", but also adding it here in case we have any sleepers lying around. Also appeared a couple of hours after the latest IP was blocked. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 20:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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