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| ::::I do NOT contradict to most points you mention regarding Salzburg (except for the independability of SCI). AND my added note says nothing else than what you just said. So there was never a legitimate reason to carelessly undo it, right from the beginning. -- ] (]) 18:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC) | ::::I do NOT contradict to most points you mention regarding Salzburg (except for the independability of SCI). AND my added note says nothing else than what you just said. So there was never a legitimate reason to carelessly undo it, right from the beginning. -- ] (]) 18:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
| ::::: This is my last interaction with you, since you are so uncivil. Not sure what part of "Personal talk page cleanup: Although archiving is preferred, users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages." you don't understand. (from ]). And just for good measure, there's ], and the ever-popular ], and you might also take a look at ], since I've asked you politely several times not to edit on my talk page. Have a good life. Oh, and now you're in violation of the ] rule. ] (]) 18:55, 30 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Elevation
The article states "Atlanta has the highest elevation of major cities east of the Mississippi River." It then links to a website listing altitudes of US major cities. It isn't on the first page but Pittsburgh PA is listed at 1,203 ft. and Atlanta is 1,050 ft. Pittsburgh is a major city east of the Mississippi River. I think this should be deleted, and it's discouraging that contributors post facts without looking through their own sources.
TheWhiz410 (talk) 01:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
NPOV Dispute - Economy
The last section in the Economy section of the article is of dubious neutrality in tone. It reads like an argumentative essay with a clear thesis ("The city's economic problems are displayed "), using value-laden descriptors not found in the sources ("a meager 0.4%", "These dismal statistics", "This unprecedented collapse") and editorializing on data found in sources ("Thus, Atlanta's current economic crisis was only worsened, and not caused, by the Recession."). It is also heavy on statistical comparisons; surely several statements could be cut to reduce wordiness. Please discuss changes, if any, that should be made to this section to bring it back in line with Misplaced Pages's neutrality standards. 72.215.49.159 (talk) 22:03, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
The integration of Atlanta public schools
The integration of Atlanta public schools begin in 1961 and by 1970 most all Atlanta city schools were integrated. The article reads as if integration did not occur until 1973. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saltgrass (talk • contribs) 16:33, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
World city rank Comment
In the lede, the sentence Atlanta is considered an "alpha-" or "world city", ranking 15th among world cities and sixth in the nation with a gross domestic product of $270 billion. is not supported by the cite (neither the 15th (world) nor the sixth (national) rank. According to the cite the correct rankings are 45th in the world and eight in the U.S. I've corrected the rankings to reflect the cite (a 2012 ranking).
Timeline of Atlanta
What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 08:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Salzburg
The following discussion thread is copied from: User talk:Onel5969#May 2015 (Dispute's source: SIC claims that Salzburg is a twin city of Atlanta. However, Salzburg official website does not list Atlanta as a twin city.) -- ZH8000 (talk) 06:57, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
I take a WP:NPOV position. I do not deny SCI's point of view, but you should also accept that this reference is not given by Salzburg's official website. I does not matter whether it's Atlanta's or Salzburg's page. Please check the WP policies! It is "just" a note! ZH8000 (talk) 04:46, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- ZH8000 - SCI's position is not "a point of view". They are the accrediting agency in regards to this. Your position would be like saying someone isn't an academy award winner, simply because it's not listed on someone else's biography, who was the co-winner with them. The fact that the co-winner didn't list it, does not invalidate the Academy's position, being the accrediting agency. If Salzburg doesn't wish to list it, that's there prerogative. According to the agency in charge of bestowing the distinction, they are sister cities. Not a matter of opinion. Not a point of view. A fact. Therefore your note is misleading at best. Please check WP policies, facts are not subject to discussion! Onel5969 (talk) 04:56, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- Your arguments are not applicable, not at all. SCI is not an independent organisation. Further an US-american one. And secondly, Sister Cities, or whatever you may call it, is not an award, but a formal agreement between two municipalities, formally signed between them. Thirdly, there is no reason for Salzburg's government not to publish it (it could be an error, but we do not know it). WP:NPOV is not about opinions, but about the documentation of different presentations, here, about SIC's and the official Salzburg. It is not our decision to judge it, but simply to doument it. And the note I added does nothing else than this, documenting a different "factual situation"! Thanks for acknowledge these facts.
- Besides, would you restrain from modifying my own text, even on your talk page! WP:TALK -- ZH8000 (talk) 05:13, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- First, you don't seem to understand the difference between a talk page of an article, which is the guideline you cite above (WP:TALK) versus an editor's own talk page, which I have explained to you is more appropriately guided by WP:OWNTALK. Second, this isn't an issue of POV, it is not a matter of opinion. SCI is the governing body which recognizes the official agreements between sister cities. A city can say they are the sister city of London, but if that agreement is not recognized by the SCI organization, then guess what, they ain't sister cities. This isn't a big issue to me. Not sure what you mean that SCI is not an independent organization, since it is, and has been since 1967. There are many types of city inter-relationships, "twinning", "trade-partnerships", etc. Being a "Sister City" is a very specific designation, and is governed by SCI. If you check page 35 of the membership directory, you'll see that Salzburg is listed as a Sister City of Atlanta. Further, if you look at page 49, you'll also see that Atlanta is listed as Salzburg's Sister City. Not sure why Salzburg doesn't have their sister city on their website, certain cities don't, even in this country. Salzburg's city website does not mention the sister city program at all, but does speak to other types of city relationships. Regardless, as I said earlier, this isn't a big thing for me. Onel5969 (talk) 13:18, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- You are obviously wrong about WP:OWNTALK, which is a part of WP:TALK.
- I do NOT contradict to most points you mention regarding Salzburg (except for the independability of SCI). AND my added note says nothing else than what you just said. So there was never a legitimate reason to carelessly undo it, right from the beginning. -- ZH8000 (talk) 18:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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