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== Cassianto ==

Hi. I received an email from someone asking me to comment on this page about guys called '''Cassianto''' and '''Shro Cat'''. The email said you're being harassed. Never heard of Shro Cat, but Cassianto was some pitiful, obsequious little cunt who implied that I ought to show respect for someone who writes crappy featured articles. I told Cassianto to FO; I told him not to contact me again. The creep came back once. I ignored it.
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To be frank, you need to learn how to deal with this. Forums and online communities are full of creeps, social inadequates, born losers, stalkers and mentally unstable zeros. Tell them to FO and ignore them.

Respectfully, I don't want any further emails (or comments on my talk page) about this. I'm really not interested. Ignore this piece of shit Cassianto and it'll leave you alone. ] (]) 20:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Hello and welcome to my talk page! Click the + button at the top of the page to create a new discussion or use any of the "edit" buttons to contribute to an already existing discussion.
  • Postings made in the form of haiku will be given first priority.
  • Note If you are unable to post on this page due to semi-protection you may use my alternate talk page.

Just so you know...

As always I welcome the scrutiny of the community at large in regards to my actions. Further localised discussion is yielding diminishing returns. Chillum 20:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I'm sure you'll agree, but this kind of stuff is unacceptable, especially when they are pretending to be another user Cassianto 10:20, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Chillum, After another posting (again using your name) on Cassianto's talk page, I've taken it to ANI. This is just a courtesy note to let you know you are mentioned in that thread, but are in no way blamed. – SchroCat (talk) 11:07, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Is this an appropriate use of the "thank" button, or were you trying to taunt me because of this? Is this what the feature is meant for, taunting people you don't like? Cassianto 17:13, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
I thanked you for that post because I think it reflected more on you than me. Chillum 19:32, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
You keep telling yourself that. I've become accustomed to your bullshit excuses. Cassianto 19:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again for your ongoing care of Misplaced Pages. Perhaps I should post a notice that says that "racist arseholes will be treated as racist arseholes"? Nice that you just popped by ANI to "sanction" me, but did nothing at all about the racist IPs. It seems this odd double-standard behaviour is now sadly typical of you. By "setting an example" do you mean publishing the contents of private emails without permission? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Please grow up. You know very well than poor behaviour does not require name calling to deal with. Engaging in name calling because the other person was behaving poorly is not an excuse I would accept from a child, much less an admin. I was not sanctioning you, I was saying you were setting a poor example.
Do you really want to start on that whole e-mail thing again? I saw a diff where you posted information from an e-mail and unlike my case it was not information the person asked you to reveal. Please drop the stick and try to act like an adult when using your admin account. This is getting silly. Chillum 19:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Your ANI post passively advocated the racist abuse on my talk page and you strongly advocate releasing private email details. You seem to be the one without control of your behaviour, ie the child here. Please take a long hard look at yourself and determine whether you are suitable for this project. P.s. What do you mean by "using your admin account"? Very odd..... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
The concept that me criticizing you for engaging in childish name calling is tantamount to defending the person you were insulting is a false dichotomy and a straw man argument. You behaving poorly has nothing to do with the behaviour of the other user and you should know that. You also misrepresent me again by saying I advocate releasing private email details. You know very well that the locus of our disagreement is not so simple and I think you are presenting this oversimplified position because it is easier to defend.
You really need to sit down and think about what you are doing. You just accused me of advocating racism because I criticized you for name calling. Think about what you said and what you are basing that off of. That is an absurd and insulting accusation and I would like you retract it.
You seem to be viewing this as some sort of adversarial situation where if I speak against you then I must be supporting your enemy, well this is not a battleground we are each judged based on our own behaviour. Nobody disputes the IP was acting poorly, this does not give you special license. Chillum 19:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
And when I say "using your admin account" I mean "Administrators are expected to lead by example and to behave in a respectful, civil manner in their interactions with others." If you want to carry the mop then please remain civil. Chillum 19:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Ah, leading by example? That classic "email me, but I'll post it onto Misplaced Pages without permission" kind of leading by example? I'm sitting down. You suddenly turned up at ANI to criticise me, gave no heed to the racist abuse, did nothing about the abusive IP and sat back. It was telling that the ANI post was hastily closed with just you, you, on your own, making a point. Just after we'd had a disagreement. How curious that you'd chase me there? Think about it. You're being absurd, and insulting and I would like you to accept that hounding me is entirely inappropriate. If you really cared, you would have reacted to the racial abuse the IP gave me, rather than the simple response I gave. I won't be interacting with you again, unless you make further indiscretions (e.g. exposing personal information), you're welcome to post on my talk page, but don't expect a response. If you want to carry the mop, don't misrepresent what you do when asked for help, don't publish private information. Civility is subjective, publishing private email content is objective. You did that, without permission. Fail. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I did not suddenly show up on ANI, you will see I am very active there. How exactly is the close "telling"? I was not involved in the close.

The fact that you interpret the situation as me following you to ANI when I regularly post there and that you found the closure somehow "telling" when I had nothing to do with that tells me that you are jumping at shadows. You are connecting dots that are simply not there.

Nobody was defending the IP and it was perfectly clear to all that the IP was in the wrong, I am not somehow condoning their behaviour because I did not call them an arsehole. Oh and please stop being so hypocritical, I was told to reveal the information I revealed. Were you? Chillum 20:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

No, you stop being so hypocritical. The contents of the email was highly offensive and was not delivered in good faith. Your behaviour is and has been shameful, you know that, the dots are there, you're joining them up. Why were you the only person to show up at the ANI report to passively defend the racist IP? I never asked you to call them anything, you're making your own strawman arguments. But at least this is all good detail to let others see you for what you are, it speaks for itself. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:32, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

It is clear to me that you are insisting on arguing with a fictional figure other than me. A straw man of your own devising. You can accuse me of defending racism all day long but anyone who knows me would know that you are wrong factually and morally. I was talking about your behaviour and your classic attempts to blame your behaviour on that of another users is disappointing from an administrator.

If you insist upon reading "I think that an admin can refrain from name calling regardless of the accuracy of it" as "I think it was okay what they did" then I think you need to get a dictionary.

Accusing me of defending racism is not only wrong and insulting it also unreasonable behaviour from any editor. Chillum 20:39, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

You defended it inasmuch that you didn't mention it. Cassianto 20:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
You did not mention the war of 1812, does that mean you defend it? Chillum 20:45, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Are you drunk? Cassianto 20:49, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Chillum, that is not a response to specific a enquiry, such as your's was to me. You "advised" me in public, contrary to my intentions to keep it private. We all knew Dreadstar was a low-life, and the confirmation from TRM that he was insulting other editors proves it. Cassianto 20:37, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
If I had done what you asked me to do then the same information would have been revealed. Don't pretend it was private when doing what you asked would have been public. Chillum 20:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
If I'd wanted it to have been public I'd have posted it on your talk page. Are you deliberately trying to be stupid? Cassianto 20:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
You know as well as I do that you were blocked at the time and could not even edit your own talk page. If you really want to dispute this matter then we will have to refer to the actual text of the e-mail. If you want to handle this in private we can send it to arb-com, otherwise please drop the matter. Chillum 20:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
It's entirely unreasonable that you publicised private material. It's entirely unreasonable that you castigated me while overlooking the overt racist attack. Look more closely in the mirror Chillum. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Go away. Chillum 20:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I will, until you transgress once again, then I will come back to make sure everyone knows how you operate. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wow

  • Wow, Chillum, you handled yourself quite well. Don't let Cassianto bait you, he knows how thank-baiting works when he thanked me for this. Good call on TRM's false dichotomy. The ol' "if your not with me..." argument falling flat on its face once again. Keep up the good work.--v/r - TP 22:08, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
  • The urge to take the bait is indeed strong. I certainly felt like engaging in personal attacks, I had a list as long as my arm. I was even saying the insults out loud. I did however refrain from posting them on Misplaced Pages with my admin account. It was not that hard, I learned similar skills in grade school. I know a logical fallacy when I see one and I will continue to name them as I see them. Thank you for your words. Chillum 22:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Agreed. We haven't gotten along amazingly in the past, but I was particularly impressed this time. You kept a cool head. Sorry for stirring up more drama on your page - email might be better next time I want to pay someone a compliment.--v/r - TP 23:01, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Misc

Aren't you supposed to be retired TParis? Or was that just a rather pleasant dream I was having the other night? Cassianto 22:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Please do not use my talk page to snipe at other editors. You are not in charge of enforcing retirement. Chillum 22:29, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Maybe not, but seeing as they retired on 11 February 2015 and have since made over 60 edits, I thought they might like to familiarise themselves with this; especially the part that says "Editors should promptly remove this template from their user pages if they resume editing for any reason. If still editing on rare occasions, use semi-retired in preference." Also, would you not consider T whatsisname's comment that it was a "Good call on TRM's false dichotomy" a sniping comment? Cassianto 22:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Paris was talking to me on my talk page. See the difference? Chillum 22:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
You told me not to snipe on your talk page, so that must go for others, right? I don't see your point. Cassianto 22:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Tell me, did you ever disclose your previous account? Cassianto 22:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Are you talking to me or TParis? Please communicate clearly. Chillum 22:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
It's under your comment, so maybe you can make the educated guess on that one? Cassianto 22:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Again please communicate clearly. About half of my Misplaced Pages contributions are here: . Chillum 22:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Email, talk page, it's all the same thing to Chillum. Cassianto 23:00, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

CSD

Regarding this , the page was hosting a cherry picked laundry list of accusations (by now indeffed sockmaster) while he had not filed any report. I think that is considered an NPA vio unless filed at a due venue. --lTopGunl (talk) 21:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree Misplaced Pages:User_pages#POLEMIC is likely to apply and that this is a good reason for deletion. While a biased collection of evidence is probably not in the best interest of the encyclopedia and it probably should be deleted it is not something that should be decided by a single person. Speedy deletion is for unambiguous cases where no community input is needed. The wording of G10 in my opinion does not allow me to delete it unilaterally. I blanked the page myself but the removal of the history is something for the community to decide.
Misplaced Pages:Miscellany_for_deletion is the proper venue for to make a policy based argument for deletion of a page that does not meet our criteria for speedy deletion. Chillum 21:24, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Understood, MFD'd: Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:CosmicEmperor/sandbox. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:20, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Rev del

I blocked WhyIsn'tSheHavingCoitusWithMe (talk · contribs) and started deleting their username from the article histories due to the offensive nature of it, but I noted that their username appears in almost all of the revert edit summaries. Do you think those edit summaries should be wiped out as well? Mkdw 22:46, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:REVDEL calls for the deletion of grossly offensive but not "ordinary" incivility.
I don't think rev deletion is needed in this case. The history is full of words far naughtier than Coitus. The important part is that the page with the list of peoples names has been deleted. Chillum 22:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Dear "super Moderator"

Reply me. What was the problem. I cited her official website in citation www.myriamfares.com, Still you removed the editing. What is the problem with you?Xishan06 (talk) 23:12, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Xishan06: I think you are harassing the wrong person, as Chillum has not reverted any of your edits to the Myriam Fares article and will probably not know what you are talking about. As a side note the official website is not a reliable source as it's primary purpose is to sell more.- McMatter /(contrib) 23:33, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry, and I apologize.Xishan06 (talk) 23:50, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I get mistaken for other people all the time. No worries. Chillum 00:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Why are you deleting the publication lists for BARUT and WAIT?

Can you give the reason? You blocked me without any explanation68.100.166.227 (talk) 04:49, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

The reason I gave was that you were edit warring. Chillum 04:54, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
O.K. But, MaterialScientist was agreed on this form and then I placed the publications in closed form. What is your objection to these closed-compact form? It does not occupy a large space and only the interested person can look fot it.

68.100.166.227 (talk) 04:59, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

If it was edit-warring you should block the party who were deleting the previously published material without giving any explanation.68.100.166.227 (talk) 05:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
The person who objects has no scientific knowledge and prepares pages like tr:Merih Aktaş & tr:Kâzım Koyuncu. They cannot comment on scientific matters, you should not listen to their desires. It not reasonable..68.100.166.227 (talk) 05:12, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I think you need to read our edit warring policy. Regardless of who is right or wrong you cannot try to get your way by making the same edit over and over for weeks on end. You spent weeks trying to force your information in the article while multiple editors reverted you. We don't settle disagreements by being stubborn here. Please seek consensus for edits that are challenged. Chillum 15:25, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Also if you continue the same behaviour then the next block will be longer. Chillum 15:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Cassianto

Hi. I received an email from someone asking me to comment on this page about guys called Cassianto and Shro Cat. The email said you're being harassed. Never heard of Shro Cat, but Cassianto was some pitiful, obsequious little cunt who implied that I ought to show respect for someone who writes crappy featured articles. I told Cassianto to FO; I told him not to contact me again. The creep came back once. I ignored it.

To be frank, you need to learn how to deal with this. Forums and online communities are full of creeps, social inadequates, born losers, stalkers and mentally unstable zeros. Tell them to FO and ignore them.

Respectfully, I don't want any further emails (or comments on my talk page) about this. I'm really not interested. Ignore this piece of shit Cassianto and it'll leave you alone. Singora (talk) 20:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)