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Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:45, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

C-FAR

Thanks for jumping-in and filling-out the Citizens for Foreign Aid Reform article. The other editor was correct to say, in effect, that the article needed more information. Good job. Cheers, -Willmcw 05:53, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

New anti-semitism

Your recent edits at New anti-semitism are nicely done. --MPerel 06:43, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

Denis, would you be willing to help out with some French translation on Talk:New anti-Semitism? Jayjg 22:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Denis, I'm having similar French translation issues with User:Marcoo on Muhammad al-Durrah; could you help out with some translations there as well? Jayjg 19:22, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Included in the dispute are concerns about the translations of specific French words, so your continued assistance would be appreciated. Jayjg 19:01, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

More controversy has broken out at the article; would you mind taking a look again? It would be most appreciated. Jayjg 19:55, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't ignore your comments, Denis, they were factored in my findings. However, the specific request for arbitration concerns only the introduction itself; and this is where I will concentrate my efforts. I agree with you that the article as a whole is in serious need of cleanup. Given the contentious nature of the very concept itself, however, and my lack of familarity with the polemic on either side, I don't want to get involved in that aspect. You are very welcome to provide additional suggestions or discussion on the case page however, and I will examine them closely. Coren 16:48, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I've responded to your further comments on my talk page and copied the exchange to the case page. Coren 23:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thanks for your support for my adminship. (I've always thought you had the perfect username for this project.) Cheers, -Willmcw 05:37, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

Terrorism category

I understand you are attempting to be even-handed and I respect that. However, I think that adding the terrorism category to those article will be considered inflammatory, espcially on articles like Hamas. While I have made clear that I am no fan of the JDL, I do not think we should include the category there either, since it also is disputed.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 19:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I actually think we should delete the category. There is already a "terrorist" category for actual individuals which is fine, but I think that when you place an entire group in such a label, it is inherantly inflammatory. What do you think?- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 20:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree in almost all cases. There are only a few innocuous categories that actually add to the article, most are just a way of discreetly inserting pov.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 21:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Israel Shamir soliciting meatpuppets

Hi, DD. I don't know if "unfair" is the word that comes to mind, as meatpuppets are no more honorable than sockpuppets. But I will unblock the account and reblock it as a meatpuppet. Thank you very much for the link. I'll post it prominently on WP:ANI, if you haven't done so already, because I think it warrants a longer block for Shamir. See Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry: "Advertising or soliciting meatpuppet activity is not an acceptable practice on Misplaced Pages". Thanks again. Bishonen | talk 16:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC).

Christopher Gillberg, mediation/arbitration

Hi, the "false" statements that you removed were truthful and were sourced on the cited British Medical Journal web site. Please check before you jump! Also, your edit was listed as "minor", when it was not. I have restored things. —Daphne A 19:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Why do you not contact Ove Lundgren, University of Gothenburg?

I give up attempting discussion with you. You can either agree to mediation or I will submit the matter to arbitration. —Daphne A 17:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, Revision as of 19:34, 24 July 2006

You say that this edit is more informative, yet I would argue that it is POV because it appears to be an attempt to mitigate confirmed reports of Israel targeting ambulances and hospitals. Your quoting of Dr. Mohamad Jawad Khalifeh is highly selective. And the Israeli Ministry of Health quote merely restates the Israeli position that they try to avoid civilian casualties, a position which is well represented elsewhere in the article, as well as begging the question of how the Israeli Ministry of Health knows what the Israeli military's tactics are. We can't have such a quote from an Israeli official following the report of every civilian target. I would argue that these edits are POV and are not in fact more informative, as argued originally. Would you please comment on this? AdamKesher 20:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict/POV#Mitigating_comments_on_confirmed_Israeli_attacks_on_ambulances_and_hospitals AdamKesher 21:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Your unsubstantiated deletion of information from 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

Please see Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Front_Line_Photographs_Section_-_concerns_re_clear_breach_of_NPOV:

Denis Diderot has deleted these links without discussion (13:55, 25 July 2006 Denis Diderot (Talk | contribs) (rv to Dominick per talk)), and claims in his comments that this talk page is the basis for his edits when in fact the dispute is ongoing and we have been asking for reasoned, substantiated arguments from both Denis Diderot and tasc, to no avail. I have done my best to resolve this issue with civil discussion on this talk page, and have now referred the matter to Misplaced Pages's informal moderation: Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-25 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. AdamKesher 15:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-25 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict and Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Front_Line_Photographs_Section_-_concerns_re_clear_breach_of_NPOV about the dispute (currently under informal moderation) over your deletion of these links without discussion on the Talk page:

I note here that Denis Diderot has again deleted these links without discussion here, yet in his edit comments asserts that this has been done per the Talk page. This dispute is currently under information moderation: Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-25 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. I will revert this deletion once today. AdamKesher 12:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I note the deletion of these links by Denis Diderot without discussion either on this talk page or the page of informal mediation given above. AdamKesher 12:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The deletion obviously isn't unsubstantiated, and I've explained in detail why these links clearly violates fundamental Misplaced Pages policies. The fact, that you don't accept that is irrelevant, since you're obviously more concerned with yuor political peeves than with building an Encyclopedia. The article is now completely useless as a source of information. That's something you should worry about instead of adding links to unreliable websites that anyone can find anyway in 5 seconds, using Google or Yahoo. --Denis Diderot 12:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Consistent with WP:EL, the links under question are:

• closely related to the article itself
• argued to be of a high standard (web collectives of writers, compendiums of news agency photos, etc.)
• providing a unique resource of frontline observations beyond what the article can provide

These are all excellent reasons to provide these links, which are not a random dump of links somebody added, but argued to possess the qualities above. Will you please take this up at the informal mediation case Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-25 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict? AdamKesher 15:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I note here that Denis Diderot has again deleted these links without discussion here or in the case currently under informal moderation, yet in his edit comments asserts that this has been done per the Talk page. This page for this information moderation is Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-25 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. I will revert this deletion once today. AdamKesher 11:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I note here that Denis Diderot has again deleted these links without discussion here or in the case currently under informal moderation, yet in his edit comments asserts that this has been done per the Talk page. This page for this informal mediation is Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-25 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. AdamKesher 12:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I note here that Denis Diderot has again deleted these links without discussion here or in the case currently under informal moderation, yet in his edit comments asserts that this has been done per the Talk page. This page for this informal mediation is Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-25 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. AdamKesher 20:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I note here that AdamKesher has once more posted the same false statement on this talk page. --Denis Diderot 20:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

All statements include links to diffs. Please stop removing any links at least until the case is closed. This is essential for providing proper view on the subject for parties involved in the dispute. The previous disputes didn't bring consensus, and aren't a valid reason for action. CP/M (Misplaced Pages Neutrality Project) 22:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

The deletion was not without discussion. There has been extensive discussion and extensive explanation as shown by the diffs above. (Latest ). --Denis Diderot 04:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The consensus was not reached, which means there was no agreement about that. We can also consider a temporary change to only links not posted by Adam Kesher, but as well without your deletion. Remember it's just temporary, and we need some temporary solution to prevent edit warring. CP/M |Misplaced Pages Neutrality Project| 12:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

May it be noted that the Mediation Cabal has ruled for a compromise inclusion of the said links in the article (which the Denis Diderot opposed).--Cerejota 05:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

By now, it still can be discussed, if you come to the case page, though the current compromise already can be implemented. Also, I've replied your questions on my talk page. CP/M |Misplaced Pages Neutrality Project| 11:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR/Mediation notice

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. I've counted five reverts within a 24 hour period from 8:20 26 July 2006 to 8:07 27 July 2006 with removal of the above-disputed links as the intended result. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.)

I have not blocked you for this action as my attention was drawn to it during conversation regarding mediation, and would like to bring to your attention that there is a mediation case open regarding this article at 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict Mediation and would encourage you to refrain from further violations of 3RR until you have resolved your dispute with other editors regarding this situation. Thank you! :) ~Kylu (u|t) 19:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, a stupid mistake. I noticed it myself, but much too late. I shouldn't have tried to edit Misplaced Pages articles at all that day since I was too tired and busy with other things. So now I follow a simple rule: only edit Misplaced Pages if you've had more than 3 hours sleep and have enough time to eat lunch. --Denis Diderot 19:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Mediation

It's entirly up to you if you want to engage into the mediation process. But it seems worthwile to me. --Barberio 16:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)