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Sorry but an experienced user like yourself should be aware that wikipedia is not a relibale source. You cannot cite wikipedia itself for editing an article on wikipedia.

I was not using Misplaced Pages I was merely referring to the footnotes and references found on the Spanish Misplaced Pages page regarding the Copa Eva Duarte to prove my point. Those links were too long to post in the edit comment section.

See http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/spansupcuphist.html and RFEF's official page http://www.rfef.es/noticias/supercopa/conoce-antecedentes-supercopa)

Regards --Suitcivil133 (talk) 19:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

How are your sources valid and FC barcelona's official website not valid? Please do tell me! This issue has been discussed more than 100 times before so refrain from reverting anything. You have already broken WP:3RR.

My source is the official source. The Spanish Football Federation (RFEF). Not the English version of FC Barcelona's webpage.

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 16:49, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

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You need a reference. You've now reverted it three times so you're bright-line. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:27, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I provided two references already.

RSSSF;

http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/spansupcuphist.html

RFEF's (Spanish Football Federation)

http://www.rfef.es/noticias/supercopa/conoce-antecedentes-supercopa) (official page)

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 17:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I have now created a talk page regarding this dispute and provided two references on all 3 pages;

https://en.wikipedia.org/FC_Barcelona

https://en.wikipedia.org/Football_records_in_Spain

https://en.wikipedia.org/Copa_Eva_Duarte

How do I gain the attention of senior editors, moderators, admins etc. that will take a stand on this dispute?

Walter Görlitz

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 17:46, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Many references have already been provided to prove that Suitcivils revert is wrong. This has been discussed more than 100 times. Sorry but it will stand. SupernovaeIA (talk) 17:54, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Nonsense. No reference aside from the FC Barcelona webpage (English version) and their "list of honors".

Vandalism by a possible sockpuppet unwilling to discuss this dispute on the talk page. See the latest 3 contributors on my page. I am very certain that this is the same person operating several usernames to give himself more credit in terms of this dispute.

It seems that there is no option but to take this matter to the moderators and admins.

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 18:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Lets not be childish here. The RFEF reference you provided, simply states that the last one was held in 53. Nowhere does it state that Barcelona won it. There are countless sources which state that Barcelona has two official Copa Eva Duarte cups, none more legitimate than their OWN OFFICIAL WEBSITE. You need to let this go before you get banned for edit warring. Thank you Imperial HRH2 (talk) 16:35, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

1953?

There was no copa eva duarte at all in 1953/.. what are you talking about?

Yes, there were.

http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/spansupcuphist.html

http://www.rfef.es/noticias/supercopa/conoce-antecedentes-supercopa

Let me quote the official webpage of the RFEF (Spanish Football Federation and highest football authority in Spain) and their article above;

"Con la Supercopa de España nacida en el 82, la RFEF recuperaba el precedente oficial inmediato conocido como la Copa Eva Duarte que no se disputaba desde el 53."

"La temporada 1952/1953 fue la última en la que se disputó esta competición como consecuencia del fallecimiento de Eva Duarte de Perón."

I speak Spanish fluently. You obviously do not.

Also you do know that sockpuppetry is illegal on Misplaced Pages, right?

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I speak spanish much more fluently than you. And by this time its obvious that you are the sockpuppet and a pro barca fan, looking at your edit history. You that its illegal right? the table for the cups is for official titles. Nowhere it says barca had 3 copa eva duartes and they were official! Its clear that you dont understand spanish and are a clear sockpuppet vandal. SupernovaeIA (talk) 20:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

You don't speak Spanish at all. Otherwise you would have understood the link and the two quotes. You clearly did not hence the trolling. I am not a FCB fan but you are clearly a madridista just as you are very likely to be a sockpuppet. This matter will be taken to the admins and moderators and they will deal with you.

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 21:26, 20 December 2014 (UTC) No, they will deal with you. A pro barca fan and a sockpuppet vandal. I speak spanish fluently. You dont understand zero of this language. It also seems you dont understand english either! SupernovaeIA (talk) 21:32, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

How big a moron are you? The best you can do is to throw my correct accusations at you right back at me. Laughable and shows your low intellect.

"Con la Supercopa de España nacida en el 82, la RFEF recuperaba el precedente oficial inmediato conocido como la Copa Eva Duarte que no se disputaba desde el 53."

What do you not understand from the link I provided from RFEF's official webpage and those two quotes?

"Con la Supercopa de España nacida en el 82, la RFEF recuperaba el precedente oficial inmediato conocido como la Copa Eva Duarte que no se disputaba desde el 53."

"La temporada 1952/1953 fue la última en la que se disputó esta competición como consecuencia del fallecimiento de Eva Duarte de Perón."

Pathetic Nepali (lol) liar and sockpuppet. Don't write on my page again.

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 21:35, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Idiotic barca licker dhoti lololol and barca licking vandal.SupernovaeIA (talk) 22:38, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

This is childish. Stop vandalising the Barcelona page. The Spanish sentences do not say anywhere that FC Barcelona won the 53 Eva Duarte Cup. You should follow the offical website (http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/detail/card/honours-football). And I have been to the Camp Nou trophy room and can confirm, there are three Eva Duarte Cups (but one of them was before 1947 when it wasn't official). They did not have one from 1953 like you claim, and neither does their official website. You need to calm down.Imperial HRH2 (talk) 16:26, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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I started a topic after my second removal at the footy project. I am unwatching the article since you can mind it for vandalism and your ownership makes cooperative editing difficult. Merry Christmas. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:22, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

My edits do not aim to cause any disruption. Rather you are silent at the vandalism ongoing on 2-3 pages regarding Spanish football by the same sockpuppet that has even written on the talk page that you just wrote on (this very talk page) under 2 different users while clearly being the same person. Using biased blogs as sources (rathe than books) and pro-RM sports papers such as Marca, AS rather than neutral sources or just the RFEF (Spanish Football Federation), FIFA etc.

Second places have been included on that talk page for years without anyone bordering. I just took a look at the footy project page and nowhere does it say that it is not allowed. It just says that it may be appropriate. Now why should it be appropriate in this case? Does it bother anyone? No. Rather I would say that it is valid additional information. Moreover second places have been included on the RM page (nobody is complaining about that) and several other club pages of major clubs.

Regarding the Copa Eva Duarte then I have taken this case further (since you guys are somehow unwilling to accept the fact that the Spanish Football Federation acknowledges my claim on their very own webpage) and written to FC Barcelona and once the holiday season has ended in Spain I will receive a reply. Hopefully.

The RM fan sockpuppet has now removed the Copa Eva Duarte trophy (Football records in Spain) and claims that it is not official while it clearly is official and recognized as such by RFEF. Not only that but organized by them and considered the predecessor to the current Spanish Super Cup.

There is obvious bias here. What I have tried correcting has been the consensus for well over 1 year and was recognized by neutrals as well. Anyway I don't bother engaging in any more fights but the second FC Barcelona replies to me favorably their games will end as I then will have the words of not only the RFEF (highest football authority in Spain), the source that can ALREADY be found on the Copa Eva Duarte page on Misplaced Pages and FC Barcelona's very own webpage.

Thank you and Merry Christmas to you as well, Walter.

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 19:35, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Who are you calling a sockpuppet? There are multiple accounts because many people agree with me and the concensus is with me. I do not care for second place honours. Infact I want them on the pages because if we remove them then we would have to remove them from hundreds of football club pages. Thats just my opinion. However you have no right to include biased opinion on the FC Barcelona page (especially the Franco history and the inclusion of Eva Duarte Cups). I wouldn't mind if you had references, but let alone solid refereces, you have NONE. Even the official Barcelona website doesn't agree with you. I know it can be tough supporting a club which might not be "the most successful club" in Spain, or however you like to put it, but at Misplaced Pages we believe in references, facts, and legitimacy. I myself am a Barcelona fan, but we shouldn't be so low as to make excuses for our football club and use biased information. I'm bigger than that. Misplaced Pages is bigger than that. You need to grow up and stop reverting edits.Imperial HRH2 (talk) 08:27, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I am not willing ot engage with a obvious sockpuppet and liar. The so-called "multiple accounts" is one Nepali troll that was once blocked by Misplaced Pages 2-3 years ago but has now reappeared again.

I did not include that. Other editors did ages ago and that book is not biased. It's a neutral book. What you on the other hand are attempting to include is some blog (yes a blog!) without any references or sources posted by a Real Madrid fan on a Spanish newspaper. Is this a joke?

Now you are attempting to delete the Copa Eva Duarte which was ALWAYS considered as a official trophy by almost all editors on Misplaced Pages. Nice joke about you being a FC Barcelona fan. LOL.

Anyway keep vandalizing. In January I will get more time on my hand and all your nonsense will end. I will by then have got a reply by FC Barcelona, I already have that source from RFEF (highest football authority in Spain) and that other source that funnily enough is still used on the Copa Eva Duarte page. Meanwhile you can stick to your Dailymail and Marca (pro Real Madrid newspaper and biased as hell). Good luck with your "objectivity" FC Barcelona fan, lol.

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 08:37, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

This catalonian foolish clown is either on drugs or hallucinating on daytime! Lol im a french living in paris and dont even know who or what or where Imperial is from!! Even if Barcelona replies you idiot, the article will remain same.. dream on! we wont allow barca vandals like you! Its so obvious that we are different persons, imperial writes such a long replies, comments (which are useless to fools like u btw), and I just state what is true short and to the point.SupernovaeIA (talk) 17:10, 27 December 2014 (UTC) 16:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Right, so now we can all make up FC Barcelona's history. So biased. Just admit, you have fewer trophies and follow the official Barcelona and FIFA website, which state so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imperial HRH2 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, a neutral book written by neutral authors is now "made up" history. Nice joke there. While your useless blog containing no references or sources at all written by a obvious Real Madrid supporter are now "facts". How funny. FIFA does only include major trophies. They are no authority with regards to domestic trophies as they have nothing to do with those. The fact is that the Copa Eva Duarte is recognized by RFEF (Spanish Football Federation) as a official trophy and as the predecessor of the current Spanish Super Cup. This has also been a consensus for years among senior editors. Somehow to pursue your obvious biased RM agenda (while shamelessly claiming that you are a FCB supporter just minutes ago when nothing could be further from the truth) you are hellbent on removing the Copa Eva Duarte trophy (which has been included for years) as this does not conform to your agenda.

And then you pretend to be all neutral. Besides the "most successful club in Spanish football" label should also be removed from both FCB's and RM's page. There was a consensus about that needing to be the case years ago but somehow it is still there.

--Suitcivil133 (talk) 09:16, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at https://en.wikipedia.org/Football_records_in_Spain. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Please do not try to continue vandalizing the page. Your edit history shows a very disruptive and continuous pro barca material edits. The trophy tally of all clubs includes 'only the compeititions 'open' to all clubs and not some trade friendly matches. You have reverted more than once and have broken WP:3RR too. SupernovaeIA (talk) 18:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did at Football records in Spain, you may be blocked from editing. Please stop reverting the consensus edits that has been there. Take any disagreements for discussion in talk. This is a warning. SupernovaeIA (talk) 09:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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1. http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/detail/card/honours-football