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Stubs & other format issues

Please don't add stub templates to larger articles as you dud in OZET, see Misplaced Pages:Stub for basic rules. - Altenmann >t 22:39, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Alexăndreni

Are you sure about the rightness of the disamb template in that page? I'm not Fale (talk) 09:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! geodis removed. --Vicky Ng (talk) 16:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of airlines of New Brunswick

An article that you have been involved in editing, List of airlines of New Brunswick, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of airlines of New Brunswick. Thank you.

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Meir Kahane

Either you are ignoring facts or you are a hard core Zionist, or both. In both cases, you are clearly biased. The movement Kahane has founded (Kach)is considered a terrorist organization by the US and by ISRAEL itself. He is considered a terrorist because he was promoting hate and violence speech and urging to kill or transfer Arabs. I hope you read a little bit before editing and commenting here. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 14:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, actually I did not attack you, unless you consider Zionist as an insult. I don't understand why you keep threatening me, when you are not even an administrator. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 18:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, it seems I will not convince you and you will not convince me, and your vandalism accusations against me were overruled. Let's agree on some common ground. The guy and his groups were outlawed by US and Israeli authorities, and this is what other people here think too (e.g. User Sol). In addition, I don't understand why you keep the category "Islamist terrorism in the US" in this article, as nobody was convicted in his assassination, and the only suspect was not connected to al-Qaeda or anything like that (personal motives may be). عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

Wiking (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Reverting obvious vandalism is NOT WP:EW. Revision history of Meir Kahane shows that I provided reasons for all reverts and requested DISCUSSION prior to further editing many times. Editor, in fact, has been warned. This diff shows that another long-time editor, whose views are opposite to mine, also believes that I was reverting obvious vandalism.

Decline reason:

Sorry, that was not vandalism; that was a content dispute. (I don't really see how you can characterize that diff from the talk page as being from a "long-time editor"; he's been editing here about ten weeks.) --jpgordon 22:33, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

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Jpgordon, I confused Sol Goldstone with another long-time editor, my mistake. However, how is mass-replacing "Islamic terrorism" with "Zionist terrorism" in categories content dispute rather than vandalism?? --Vicky Ng (talk) 22:53, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

For the record, I was the one putting down a block. Two things: 1) although I don't usually take into account the content of the edits, I did this time. The subject did in fact participate in some rather bloody groups, and a good faith editor could easily come to the conclusion he was a terrorist (I hold no such judgment either way myself). What does an orthodox Jewish man have to do with Islamic terrorism? With all due respect, it would seem he had as much to do with Jewish terrorism as the Islamic terrorism he was fighting. Although again, I am neutral on the content. Secondly, because it was not obvious vandalism, it doesn't qualify for 3RR avoidance (seriously, as a patrolling admin on WP:AN3, do you know how often I see this per day? And every time I've seen it, it's been a poor argument Please read WP:NOTVAND. I'm going to start an essay on this soon too). In fact I feel bad blocking you, but given that this could go either way, your reversion was not appropriate. That's why I blocked you, and I would hope you understand. In fact, given the likelihood of sockpuppetry, I feel bad about this, but sometimes I guess we all have to learn the hard way that edit warring unless it's really obvious vandalism (e.g., "penis" vandalism) will get a block. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I will shorten or remove your block if you promise not to revert that page any time until the original 24 hour block is lifted (18:01, 15 October UTC), unfair (to either side) as it may sound, mostly because I don't think it's fair that the other editor(s) can get away with disruption just because they were never formally warned, whereas you can't. That would leave you free to discuss on the talk page and request further comment. Would you agree to that? (note to other admins: feel free to perform the unblock yourself in this circumstance should I disappear for several hours) Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:42, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

As it happens, I am a subject matter expert and vandalism in this case was very obvious to me. Note that Kach was designated a terrorist organization years after Kahane's assassination based on events also took place later; same with JDL (which has very little to do with the original JDL, headed by Kahane from 1968 to mid-70's); Kahane Chai didn't even exist in his life time (it means, "Kahane lives on"). Kach and Kahane Chai were banned for expressing support for terror, not even for actual involvement in terror. Meir Kahane is an article about a person, not about future designation of organizations that he may or may not have founded. Certainly this info does not belong in the intro. As it is, the article is extremely biased. Connection to Islamic terrorism, on the other hand, is clear: Kahane's assassination by an Islamic terrorist naturally places it in all relevant categories. His assassination specifically by an Islamic terrorist (not just a terrorist, not just a Muslim, but a member of an Islamic terrorist organization) is well sourced.

The article is not abandoned - there are frequent edits and ongoing discussion. Its categorization was stable and reflects concensus. Changing it at the very least requires discussion. That's why the other editor whom I mentioned (and whose views are, most likely, opposite of mine) also felt that I was reverting vandalism.

Having said all this, I do accept your offer. I do not feel that blocking me was fair, but what do I have to lose... --Vicky Ng (talk) 02:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

OK I've unblocked you. I'm sorry, I think this is a content dispute. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:10, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Jewish history

Hi Vicky Ng: Thank you for your contributions. You recently created a number of categories relating to Jewish history that all had a similar minor spelling problem, a "H" instead of "h" for "Category:Jewish ____ history". I have nominated them for speedy changes at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming here with the request that: "The following new categories in Category:Jewish history by country need to be changed from "History" to "history" per - C2A (C2A = Renaming or merging. Typographic and spelling fixes. Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes.):

1. Category:Jewish Afghani History to Category:Jewish Afghani history - C2A
2. Category:Jewish Azerbaijani History to Category:Jewish Azerbaijani history - C2A
3. Category:Jewish Dominican History to Category:Jewish Dominican history - C2A
4. Category:Jewish Kazakh History to Category:Jewish Kazakh history - C2A
5. Category:Jewish Maltese History to Category:Jewish Maltese history - C2A
6. Category:Jewish Moldovan History to Category:Jewish Moldovan history - C2A"

Keep up your good work but please be more careful about following previous spelling conventions especially when creating categories because it's a hassle to get them fixed. Thank you very much! IZAK (talk) 06:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Hate groups

Hi! You're getting this message because at the deletion discussion for "cat:organizations designated as hate groups," you expressed support or interest in a list. I have the beginning of such a list here, and I welcome your contributions. Specific things that need work: is the list comprehensive, including all groups that have Misplaced Pages articles? Should we include the designating organizations' reasoning? Are there other institutions that designate hate groups whose designations should be added? Can someone help with the nitty-gritty work of referencing? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Category:National liberation movements

Why are you pruning Jewish and Zionist groups from this category? — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 22:58, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

For two different reasons. Zionism is an ideology, not a group. Specific groups (movements) are in the appropriate category; Zionism and the like should not be. Holocaust-era resistance groups simply are not National liberation movements by definition. --Vicky Ng (talk) 16:46, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Commons USURP

I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is Vicky Ng. Wiking (talk) 16:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Global USURP

I am requesting USURP on various wiki projects where my SUL username is taken locally with zero or low edit count. --Wiking (talk) 20:05, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Done on no-wp. Haros (talk) 20:52, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Wiking (talk) 21:09, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Your request was done on jawp.--Hosiryuhosi (talk) 08:24, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Wiking (talk) 19:19, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Done on slwiki. — Yerpo 12:09, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Wiking (talk) 14:14, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

it.wiki username Wiking is now available for your SUL account. Ciao, Ary29 (talk) 18:24, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Wiking (talk) 19:46, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Need help with azwiki

Hi, where do I request USURP in azwiki? The link is missing from . Thanks for listing yourself as local ambassador. --Wiking (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• I did :) Emperyan-message/ileti 18:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Moshe Friedman

Self-proclaimed Rabbi who visited Iran, Denies the Holocaust, helps Hamas. Can you help with edits on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/Moshe_friedman Tellyuer1 (talk) 18:09, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

1RR violation

Your reverts are violations of WP:1RR. If you don't undo them, you'll end up at WP:AE. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

• When editors do not reach agreement by editing, discussion on the associated talk pages continues the process toward consensus. --Wiking (talk) 16:50, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

AE report: . Nomoskedasticity (talk) 10:44, 7 January 2016 (UTC)