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This is a long-running dispute, and a previous RfC was closed without consensus, in large part due to a lack of participation. If you have time, additional voices would be a big help. ] (]) 23:35, 15 January 2016 (UTC) This is a long-running dispute, and a previous RfC was closed without consensus, in large part due to a lack of participation. If you have time, additional voices would be a big help. ] (]) 23:35, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

== Unsourced comparison of ] incident with ] incident ==

Another editor, ] at ] insists upon the inclusion of a "SEE ALSO" link to ]. He argues that since the ] policy allows for links to articles with only an "indirect or tangential" connection to the main article in question, there is no need for any sourced commentary justifying the link—e.g. a news article or editorial suggesting a relationship or drawing a comparison between the two.

My feeling is that while there may be situations and article topics where the addition of an unsourced connection is obviously appropriate, or at least innocuous, in other cases there are a lot of potentially unwelcome consequences which force Verifiability and NPOV to the top of the analysis.

The most obviously extreme example that I could think of would be editing the article of a political candidate with a link declaring "SEE ALSO: Hitler". Undoubtedly many politicians could be given a superficial or facially plausible comparison to Hitler (!), but at this point the user's editorial judgment will have begun to manufacture content in a dangerous and unacceptable way. Thus I don't think a potentially damaging claim of this sort becomes exempt from WP:V simply because of some loose wording in the policy on cross-article linking. Input desired. ] (]) 17:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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    RfC on whether calling an event "murder" presumes the perpetrator is a "murderer".

    See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography#Request for Comment: Does "murder" presume "murderer"? Or don't. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:20, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

    RfC on possible WP:SYNTH violations

    See RfC: material that does not explicitly refer to ethnocracy When Other Legends Are Forgotten (talk) 06:40, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

    Making verifiable conclusions from sources

    Would this constitute original research? I would like to state in an article that businesses located in Raspberry Green sometimes just identify as Raspberry - e.g. Raspberry Window Cleaners. This is easily verified from the phone book, or I can cite the websites of these businesses. What I do not have is any source that states explicitly, "businesses located in Raspberry Green sometimes just identify as Raspberry" (or paraphrased). So have I done original research in citing the phone book, or those websites, as proof of my statement? A similar case would be making a statement about a place and linking to an extremely authoratative free online map as proof. Thanks - Mr Zwx

    I'm not sure if it's original research, but it seems obvious and I'm not sure why it would be included in an article.--Jahaza (talk) 19:09, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

    Netflix original programming

    There is currently a discussion here regarding whether or not Netflix should be considered the actual source for labeling shows as Netflix originals, even though in some cases those shows are produced by other networks but co-opted by Netflix for international broadcasting purposes. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 13:07, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

    Carly Rae Jepsen

    Hi all, I'd appreciate input at Talk:Carly Rae Jepsen regarding whether statements such as " was a commercial success" should be included in articles without specific reliable sources cited to support them. Another editor has expressed the view that a source referring to a single as a "hit", or an album charting in the top 10 or 20, identifies commercial success—and that editors "can use their own judgement" in these situations—but I myself feel this type of writing falls foul of the original research policy.

    Thanks! Extraordinary Machine (talk) 13:22, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

    RfC on Campus Sexual Assault

    There is an open RfC on the Campus Sexual Assault page that deals, in part, with a question about original research.

    The conflict is explained in more detail on the page, but the portion that is relevant to OR is this: the 2015 AAU report on campus sexual assault found that women who did not report a sexual assault incident to the police did so because they "did not think it was serious enough to report". Previous research has examined this result on past surveys, but this research did not directly examine the 2015 survey. An editor has argued that, because this past research did not directly address the 2015 AAU report, it is original research to draw a connection in the entry.

    This is a long-running dispute, and a previous RfC was closed without consensus, in large part due to a lack of participation. If you have time, additional voices would be a big help. Nblund (talk) 23:35, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

    Unsourced comparison of New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany incident with Puerto Rican Day Parade attacks incident

    Another editor, User: Veggies at New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany insists upon the inclusion of a "SEE ALSO" link to Puerto Rican Day Parade attacks. He argues that since the WP:SEEALSO policy allows for links to articles with only an "indirect or tangential" connection to the main article in question, there is no need for any sourced commentary justifying the link—e.g. a news article or editorial suggesting a relationship or drawing a comparison between the two.

    My feeling is that while there may be situations and article topics where the addition of an unsourced connection is obviously appropriate, or at least innocuous, in other cases there are a lot of potentially unwelcome consequences which force Verifiability and NPOV to the top of the analysis.

    The most obviously extreme example that I could think of would be editing the article of a political candidate with a link declaring "SEE ALSO: Hitler". Undoubtedly many politicians could be given a superficial or facially plausible comparison to Hitler (!), but at this point the user's editorial judgment will have begun to manufacture content in a dangerous and unacceptable way. Thus I don't think a potentially damaging claim of this sort becomes exempt from WP:V simply because of some loose wording in the policy on cross-article linking. Input desired. Dontmakemetypepasswordagain (talk) 17:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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