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Kind regards IJA (talk) 16:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Recent edit to Peć

Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit because I believe the article was better before you made that change. The name of the article is Pec. I see on the talk page that there was a brief discussion to move the page. Why don't you be BOLD and move the page to Peje. If you do, revert my revision first. The article would also need more clean-up to reflect the name change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! Onel5969 (talk) 12:21, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I requested a move many months ago and nobody challenged it, why hasn't it been moved yet? I demonstarted that the sources no longer prefer the Serbian name Pec and that the locals consider it an insult. So I cannot see why it was changed back to the Serbian name. Let's keep it neutral (talk) 12:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

You are suspected of sock puppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Misplaced Pages accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Lindi29. Thank you. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:32, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

@Vanjagenije. Your imagination didn't get you very far did it! --Let's keep it neutral (talk) 10:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Haha, it wasn't me who accused you of socpuppetry. It was Anastan . I just left you a message to let you know. Vanjagenije (talk) 10:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, you or Anastan, didn't get very far. It has long expired so I don't have to defend myself on the accusation. --Let's keep it neutral (talk) 10:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Notice

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Template:Z33 Fut.Perf. 10:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I also remind you that Kosovo is under a strictly enforced 1-revert restriction, which you have just broken. I recommend you self-revert before somebody gets around to blocking you. Fut.Perf. 10:30, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Let's keep it neutral (talk) 13:30, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Recent problematic editing

Hi

You can't just go on erasing sourced properly written parts, just because you disagree with what has been said.

For example, the deletion of criticism against Tim Judah and Noel Malcolm which you did. Misplaced Pages articles are subject to NPOV principles, they can include both positive and negative criticism from notable people and organizations.

There are other problematic edits in your recent history as well, such as the deletion of text that clarifies the contested status of Kosovo (which is the actual situation today) here and here. And then there's this entry, which was originally added by a random IP user and isn't reflected in the source.

I hope that you can understand how this isn't a constructive way of editing at all. - Anonimski (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

On this occasion, although I consider there have been considerable attempts to give undue weight to criticism of particular authors, Anonmski is correct on this occasion. The source is RS. Whether the continued inclusion of only negative reviews is WP:UNDUE is a separate matter. I think I might bring them both up to GA with the full range of positive and negative reviews of their books, that may help to re-balance the articles, and dissuade the POV warriors on both sides. Also, be careful with these articles, they are covered by ARBMAC, and you will quickly get burned if you continue in this vein. Regards, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 13:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Okay okay we'll discuss. --Let's keep it neutral (talk) 13:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

One more thing, can you have a look at my post about one of your edits? Link: Talk:Propaganda_during_the_Yugoslav_Wars#User:Let.27s_keep_it_neutral. - Anonimski (talk) 15:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Serbia#Albania borders Serbia

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Serbia#Albania borders Serbia. Thanks. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)Template:Z48

Waste of time when you & co have made up your minds that Kosovo will continue to be treated as a place in Serbia just like Belgrade. --Let's keep it neutral (talk) 13:39, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet

This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet of Sinbad Barron (talk · contribs · global contribs · page moves · user creation · block log) that was created to violate Misplaced Pages policy. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If this account is not a sock puppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Mike VTalk 03:29, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I seek forgiveness

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Please please PLEASE for the sake of this project unblock me. Okay yes I am Sinbad Barron, I cannot dispute that but I truly reckon that I have been kept away long enough. I would have appleaed under the Sinbad Barron account but talkpage access was revoked a long time ago, and can you believe that now it has been 7 years since I created that account. I admit it was disruptive, I admit it was wrong the way I behaved but I want you to believe me when I tell you that using "Let's keep it neutral" I honestly honestly tried to be more mature than I was in my younger youth (people change, yes) but I cannot get rid of some of the mannerisms, but then those mannerisms were not the reason I was blocked. I got blocked because my Wiki-identity got foiled. As LKIN I tried to be more in tune to consensus and I did not edit war half as much as I did as Sinbad Barron and the other sock-accounts I made from then til now. I don't mind Sinbad Barron being locked but as LKIN I really really wish to show that I have what it takes to be a good editor. I depeloped a respectable rapport with a few editors and I could see that my works were actually appreciated by some. So please, can we put the past behind us and re-allow me to edit, only with this account I promise, no others. Thankyou thankyou thankyou so much if you can do this. Let's keep it neutral (talk) 12:12, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

PS. I have ample opportunity to create "new" sock accounts but I am refraining from doing so as a goodwill gesture to prove I am not trying to edit while banned. Let's keep it neutral (talk) 12:14, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Under the circumstances, I suggest that a standard offer approach could be taken. In this context, I suggest you make a new unblock request in 6 months time. PhilKnight (talk) 17:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


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RE: My attempt to return

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Request reason:

Okay everyone, thankyou one and all for not locking my talkpage access. I have taken the advice as per the description up top from Phil Knight and waited a full 6 months so would now like to commence discussions with the view of returning as an editor using this one and only account. All of those created after User:Sinbad Barron which was my first, and User:Neutral Fair Guy, my last to date in 2013 (wrongly assumed to be Evlekis but I admit that was me since I feel the need to be honest, if someone unlocks the talkpage access I will log in and say "Hi, it's me Sinbad" beofre they can lock it again). Right, I know down the years that I was a pain and a nuisance and I never accepted the rules, but then when Sinbad was created I was only 16 and not exactly mature and ready enough to edit Misplaced Pages. Now I am 23, have been to university and graduated, and I live a respectable life. I was thinking of going to one of the upcoming conventions to possibly show the people there that I have what it takes to be a "good guy" whose works are good for the project. Obviously I don't expect the ban to be lifted right away and I would somehow like to demonstrate that I am a good faith good intention editor. I could start with a short topic ban to show you I can edit on matters not related to Albania and Kosovo, but whatever happens, please give this some consideration. I have been reading the terms and conditions which I never did back in 2008 and I feel I know how to be a good editor. I understand it is never the intention of the admins to "punish" anyone, and I now feel I can be more useful to the project.

PS. I don't have VERY much time to edit, I am a career man with a wife and two babies :)))))))))), and my lunch break is over right now! Hope to hear from the rew real soon. I'll keep watch! Ciao! Let's keep it neutral (talk) 12:39, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Procedural decline: no response to reviewers' comments. Please feel free to file another request when you're ready to respond in a timely manner. Max Semenik (talk) 18:26, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


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A short topic ban? How about an indefinite topic ban, as the above linked WP:SPI suggests that things will end badly if you start editing those topics again.OhNoitsJamie 14:42, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I understand it's been a long time, I understand that the standard offer has been extended to you and that you've waited the six months as you've been told to. Therefore, I will unblock you without any further issue if you agree to abide by the following ban: Let's keep it neutral is indefinitely topic banned from making any edit about, and from editing any page relating to the Balkans, broadly construed. If and when the community can trust you to edit in that area, the ban may be rescinded upon review at WP:AE. Swarm 03:45, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Having given your proposal due consideration, I have decided to accept the terms of the unblock by avoiding any edits on Balkan articles, and not mentioning the subject on other articles, and not talking about the Balkans to other editors, and giving no hints as to my ideas for how the articles should be. Obviously Kosovo and Albania current affairs and history are the area that I am most knowledgable and where I have I read the most. In time ofcourse I will be asking for the topic ban to be reviewed but for now I would like to demonstrate my good faith and good ability by editing on non-Balkan subjects. Thankyou Swarm. Let's keep it neutral (talk) 12:46, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Cool. Happy to hear it! I think you've made a good choice. I will unblock you right now, and let me be the first to welcome you back! Swarm 21:11, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Let's keep it neutral. You have new messages at Swarm's talk page.
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Swarm 18:01, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Costume in Gjakova

The article Costume in Gjakova has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This article is a copy-paste from Culture of Gjakova. It was created in October 2014, while the original edit was made in March 2014.

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