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::What you wrote said that there were two problems: ::What you wrote said that there were two problems:
::*Original research ]. This might be right. But it is hard to understand why. ::*Original research ]. This might be right. But it is hard to understand why.
::*Most of the article is about a different subject ]. This is absolutely correct. But you needed to explain this so he understood. ::*Most of the article is about a different subject ]. This is absolutely correct. But you needed to explain this so he understood.
::--<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">] ]</span> 10:21, 10 February 2016 (UTC) ::--<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">] ]</span> 10:21, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:::@] FML, why can't he just ask for the persian translation? I am fluent in farsi, I even corrected his translation mistakes an hour ago. Anyway in order to keep the discussion coherent for all users I will just open a new section this one has gone to dogs to be frank. Gimme a minute. ] (]) 10:30, 10 February 2016 (UTC) :::@] FML, why can't he just ask for the persian translation? I am fluent in farsi, I even corrected his translation mistakes an hour ago. Anyway in order to keep the discussion coherent for all users I will just open a new section this one has gone to dogs to be frank. Gimme a minute. ] (]) 10:30, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
::::FML is not a suitable term in the Misplaced Pages society.] (]) 11:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC) ::::FML is not a suitable term in the Misplaced Pages society.] (]) 11:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
*]:Well, what we have here is another mass removal by ] without making enough notifications on the talkpage and discussing it with others. Although from a strict viewpoint, I see that {{tq|" The start of the celebration..."}} could be removed because it's not supported by , FC's disruptive behavior including committing ] and using an irritating language ({{tq|"Are you a five year old child..."}}, {{tq|"tirade of a petulant child when he says again and again}} and {{tq|"WTF?"}}) is not acceptable and/or tolerable (as he has shown enough cases of such behaviors). However, I'm not endorsing ]'s reverts (three times, the same as FC), I can't ignore the topic he made on the TP. Anyway, I'd like to emphasize that the article is about a decade everyday of which coincided an important event. ّFinally, Thanks to ] who is trying to build a consensus, I think ] would better be invited to the discussion to check the case. ] (]) 12:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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@FreeatlastChitchat: I think you like edit war. I said to you add your comments in the talk page and after conclusion we can edit the article. Saff V. (talk) 06:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

@Saff V. what comments can I add? The sections I removed are 100% WP:COATRACK and WP:OR. How can you prove that they are not? FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:05, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@FreeatlastChitchat: It is your idea about this edited text. We must answer another user. Mhhossein and H.dryad please say your idea about FreeatlastChitchat comment.Saff V. (talk) 07:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Saff V. why should I answer to another user? If you have no arguments then why did you revert? Are you a five year old child who has no arguments of his own? This is the most imbecilic bad faith revert I have ever seen, you revert, have no arguments and then ping someone else? WTF? FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:17, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Saff V. why are you reverting me? What rationale and arguments can you provide against the WP:COATRACK and WP:OR claims? FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 08:05, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
The current version is better and you have claim this is OR. You must convince me.Saff V. (talk) 08:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

@FreeatlastChitchat: - please can you explain why some parts are not properly supported by reliable citations, and some parts are not really relevant (coat rack). Please do this part by part.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

@Saff V.: - please can you address the issue that the article contains almost nothing about its subject: Fajr decade national holiday. Instead it deals almost exclusively with the events that the national holiday celebrates. We do not need a WP:Content fork article about the Islamic revolution of 1979.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

@ Toddy1 Nothing except the first two lines discusses this "holiday". Hence the Coatrack. Once we remove the coatrack, we can discuss the remaining sources. But @Saff V.: seems to think that removing this coatrack is uncalled for so he should give arguments. And by arguments I mean something other than the tirade of a petulant child when he says again and again "you must convince me". What exactly do I have to convince him of? FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 10:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
He/she is not being petulant. He/she speaks Farsi; he/she understands English with great difficulty. As you probably know, computer translation between Farsi and English is extremely bad at carrying the sense of what is written. Please could you remove the words "the tirade of a petulant child when he says again and again". This would make it possible for him to understand what you mean.
What you wrote said that there were two problems:
  • Original research WP:OR. This might be right. But it is hard to understand why.
  • Most of the article is about a different subject OR:COATRACK. This is absolutely correct. But you needed to explain this so he understood.
-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:21, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Toddy1 FML, why can't he just ask for the persian translation? I am fluent in farsi, I even corrected his translation mistakes an hour ago. Anyway in order to keep the discussion coherent for all users I will just open a new section this one has gone to dogs to be frank. Gimme a minute. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 10:30, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
FML is not a suitable term in the Misplaced Pages society.Saff V. (talk) 11:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Saff V.:Well, what we have here is another mass removal by FreeatlastChitchat without making enough notifications on the talkpage and discussing it with others. Although from a strict viewpoint, I see that " The start of the celebration..." could be removed because it's not supported by the cited source, FC's disruptive behavior including committing edit war and using an irritating language ("Are you a five year old child...", "tirade of a petulant child when he says again and again and "WTF?") is not acceptable and/or tolerable (as he has shown enough cases of such behaviors). However, I'm not endorsing Saff V.'s reverts (three times, the same as FC), I can't ignore the topic he made on the TP. Anyway, I'd like to emphasize that the article is about a decade everyday of which coincided an important event. ّFinally, Thanks to Toddy1 who is trying to build a consensus, I think Drmies would better be invited to the discussion to check the case. Mhhossein (talk) 12:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)