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The wildly edit-warring new user ], who has been reverted by three editors so far today, is making the same vandal edits as 2001:e10:6840:21:20c:6eff:fe07:58e3. He has not explained his edits, nor left useful edit-summaries despite requests to do so. --] (]) 04:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
The wildly edit-warring new user ], who has been reverted by ''four'' editors so far today, is making the same vandal edits as 2001:e10:6840:21:20c:6eff:fe07:58e3. He has not explained his edits, nor left useful edit-summaries despite requests to do so. --] (]) 04:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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I wanted to let everyone editing this article know that I have 19 photos taken in Abkhazia in 2014 uploaded to the Commons and available here should you have any need. All of the photos were taken in the capital. Interlaker (talk) 00:18, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Title of the article
Hello,
On 16 September 2015, at the request of the Permanent Mission of Georgia to the United Nations, the map of Georgia was updated on the website of the Geospatial Information Section of the United Nations.
The English language orthography of several cities on Georgia's Black Sea coast has been changed in accordance with the established norms of Georgian toponyms: სოხუმი/Sokhumi, ბიჭვინთა/Bichvinta, ახალი ათონი/Akhali Atoni, გულრიფში/Gulripshi and ოჩამჩირე/Ochamchire.
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According to this regulations, made by the United Nations, please, change the title of the article into Sokhumi and use this form in any other articles of Misplaced Pages.
Also note, that according to this official UN map of Georgia, the primary name of Abkhazia part of Georgia is Abkhazeti.
Thank you! Abkhazian1 (talk) 06:44, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
We are very happy to hear it:) But the UN are not in charge of Misplaced Pages and in English language it is right to say Sukhumi and Abkhazia, so we must leave it as it is now. P.s: if we need to change the article about Georgian Abkhazia, do it. But the Abkhazia independent state article must be left as it is now. Best regards, Ilya Drakonov (talk) 09:51, 18 September 2015 (UTC).
Agree with Abkhazian1, this issue needs more attention (again), and I think we must start new discussion about its renaming. UN is place where is no russian influence and they know what is reality. Name Sukhumi was used under Soviet regime I think after Georgia's independence it is time to name everything with its proper name. Toponym of this place is Sokhumi and it must to affect on article's title.--g. balaxaZe★00:07, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
It's tricky. Looking through the google results for both, Sukhumi still seems more common in English sources overall, whereas Sokhumi is much more common in sports and discussing the university, as well as in all Georgian English sources. It does look like Sokhumi is increasingly on the rise, but hasn't overtaken Sukhumi yet. WP:NCGN notes two tests for when names are hard to determine (and I would suggest Sokhumi has increased in prominence enough to be a contender), Google hits and local linguistic majority. Google hits would indicate Sukhumi as still slightly ahead, and I do not know what form Abkhaz speakers prefer. CMD (talk) 15:42, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
″The English language orthography of several cities on Georgia's Black Sea coast has been changed...″ - this was officialy stated on the website of the Permanent Mission of Georgia to the United Nations. (see here: ]). As I know, Google is not a regulatory agency or something like that to fix or approve names (toponyms in this case). So, since 15 sept 2015, according the statement delivered by the PM of Georgia to the UN and accepted by the UN, on the other hand, the fully qualified official English name for the city is "Sokhumi". We are talking about English Misplaced Pages, not about German or Swahili one... Of course "Sokhumi" hasn't overtaken "Sukhumi" yet. How could it be happen in a couple of months?
Anyway, as for Google (maps), please, check this: ]
As for me, it is less importance "So-" or "Su-". Just since the date, mentioned above, the official English name begins with "So-". So, simply, that's why we should to change it. Regards, Abkhazian1 (talk) 20:04, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
English Misplaced Pages does not use WP:OFFICIALNAMES. Both names are English names, in that they are used in English. I believe the UN and Google Maps positions are already noted in the article. CMD (talk) 01:09, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
There is an ongoing dispute about whether the infobox should use File:Scruj23.JPG or File:Сухум.png. My personal preference would be for one image which is as representative as possible, showing something more than a single building. I would also rather a single image than a collection of images, and so I would prefer the first one despite its lighting and composition being not as good. I haven't found anything that jumps out at me on commons, although suggestions are welcome. CMD (talk) 17:19, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Agree with CMD, also this main photo must to show to readers urban landscape of the city but in this collage 50% of photo is useless, if they are interested in nature or in flags they can find this information and photos in respective articles of English Misplaced Pages.--g. balaxaZe★21:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
The wildly edit-warring new user User:Deffrman, who has been reverted by four editors so far today, is making the same vandal edits as 2001:e10:6840:21:20c:6eff:fe07:58e3. He has not explained his edits, nor left useful edit-summaries despite requests to do so. --Tenebrae (talk) 04:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
