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• Archive 1 — 2002 to 28 March 2005
• Archive 2 — 28 March 2005 to 2 July 2006

Please note that I do not usually respond on this page - if you leave me a message, I will most likely reply on your user talk page, so that you will be notified when you receive my message.

User:Ackoz blocked

I have blocked User:Ackoz for 3 days for personal attacks and offensive behaviour (mocking users' IQs) on Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for adminship/Trampikey, and for disruptive behaviour in starting an RfC on a completely unrelated administrator whose only involvement was to place warnings for the above behaviour on his/her user page (which this user promptly removed). I have advised this user of ways he can seek to have this block overturned, and if another administrator feels that this block should be overturned, I will respect that. - Mark 09:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

He needed to be in the time out corner, and 3 days is probably good. I endorse the block, although I do think this was a peevish person stamping his foot and might have been neutralized by ignoring. A short block is at least as valid an approach though. (I hate it when people try to be clever and just miss. The belly flop they make is much more noticeable than someone just jumping feet first into the pool.) Geogre 13:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey Mark, this is me, Ackoz, although I decided not to contribute anymore, I just came to check how the Caron dispute is going and to leave you this note. However, I dont think I need the nick anymore. I just wanted to quote to you that that the NPA policy states, that:

In extreme cases, an attacker may be blocked under the "disruption" clause of the blocking policy, though the practice is almost always controversial. Personal attacks should be reported at WP:PAIN.

You blocked me per NPA, which I might have violated once (one sentence) and only if someone was interpreting my statements by your common sense, anyway no extreme case happened, and for my statements that I do not want to comply with WP policies (such statement being no criteria for blocking someone) and for erasing a warning from my talkpage, that was actually finally removed by the editor who placed some of it there, (i.e. you blocked me for removing something that was removed by someone else), after I asked him to review my contributions. Moreover, George's comments about sending me to a corner, calling me peevish, "trying to be clever" (in your common sense interpretation, that would mean he had been calling me stupid) etc made me feel kinda sad. I really tried to contribute to wikipedia, I have created Abdominal aortic aneurysm, Transfusion-associated graft versus host disease, Antyllus and some other articles in the last month because I had the time finally. I spent a lot of time on them, researching, sourcing etc. You can check them I am proud :) I haven't been here long (since April), but really insulting arguments like "you haven't done any edits on articles for months" were also used by some other admins on my talkpage when I asked for unblocking - you admins don't really check what the user did you just look shortly and block, very nice of you. That all was kinda humiliating as I couln't properly respond to those allegiations because I was blocked. I felt like a little kid showing my teacher that I actually did the homework. I dont ever want to feel like that, I am sure you understand, and I am not going to expose myself to mocking by some "admins" who believe they are just fabulous because they are "admins" in some virtual community. If I believed in the principles of wikipedia, I would ask you be desysopped by the ArbCom by clearly abusing your admin powers. But I don't believe in wikipedia and I think I would be wasting my time. Just please before blocking someone next time, check if the case is so extreme that you really have to block the editor, you are in no teacher's position here, remember. And please be more kind. 85.70.5.66 18:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Ackoz. I'll reply here since you do not want your user talk page to be recreated. My block of you was very much in the vein of the "time-out corner", as Geogre described it. I wanted you to take some time to calm down and reassess the situation, and realise that you were perhaps taking everything too personally: a "cooling-off period", sort of. Had I suspected that you would have become so offended and leave the project entirely, it would certainly not have been the strategy I would have taken. I recognise good article contributors when I see them, and I am sad to see you leave the project.

As for your assessment of my admin actions, obviously you are entitled to your opinion, and you are also entitled to take this to the ArbCom. I don't presume to purport that I am above oversight. In fact, I think it would be very healthy to have someone else scrutinise my actions as an administrator. I try to be fair with my admin actions. I also only use them very sparingly, when I think such a use is warranted.

Anyway, once again, I'm sorry you have been offended by my intervention in this matter. - Mark 02:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

ALan Jones

"I have removed this article from the "List of GLBT people" category. If Alan Jones hasn't specifically stated in public that he belongs within this category, then it is not for us to put him in such a category based upon mere rumour and innuendo. - Mark 02:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Why have you done this? Jones's homosexuality has been on the public record for some months and has been widely known for years. He was outed in a poster campaign in Sydney's Paddington and district some years ago when the authorities went to a great deal of trouble to remove the offending material. In recent months Andrew Marr has stated categorically in radio broadcasts that Jones is "gay" on several occassions the latest on RN Breakfast this morning. I would ask that you revert your clearly vexatious category deletion. Albatross2147 02:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)"

Your censorship is most reprehensible and I would have to say undergraduate in nature. Albatross2147 03:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

• • Ok I take yr point Albatross2147 08:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Have photies

Hi Mark, I see the Perth page needs photos of Hyde Park - I live just around the corner & have loads but am a wiki-edit newbie & don't want to bugger up the pages or drive anyone bonkers !! Can I just email them to you as attachments ?? I think you're doing a great job & would love to contribute !! Cheers ! Molly

(private email address removed)

my kickban from IRC

Why was I kickbanned from IRC. I don't understand? I was just mucking around. WTF Is a troll?--Hamedog_Talk| 14:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Can't you control your teenage kickers on IRC?

*** Werdna sets mode: +b *!*@64.251.*.*

*** Zipitoa was kicked by CableModem (Suss logger)

The time is New York City time. What is a Suss logger? Why ban 65,000 IP addresses just to kick one address? 207.193.30.243 13:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I will investigate this further when Werdna is next online. Thank you for raising this with me. - Mark 14:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

IRC

Hello. I am Jonathunder on IRC. Jonathunder 01:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)b

Lebanon Page: Stop acting like an officious Policeman of Misplaced Pages

I note that you are a law student. Well I think that your protection of the Lebanon page is not only restrictive of the ethos freedom of expression of wikipedia but ultra varies to your role as administrator of the wiki project.

Naturally the evens in Lebanon are causing considerable world wide interest as well as an humanitarian crises this also is the cause of interest in the wikipedia page on Lebanon, two countries seem to be in midst of a war.

Misplaced Pages editors from divergent points of view edit this page with an incresed frequency as it is topical news. By frequent edits from both sides a common consensus is arrived at which becomes the prevailing concensus.

You have now imposed an almost draconian censorship of this wiki page doing it at this time I feel makes you unfit to be an administrator of wikipedia because its an abuse of power, I have recorded this event against your record for the community to judge I have had e mail from Lebanese citizens who now cannot contribute to this page. The only mitigating circumstance is your inexperience and immaturity.

You may be aware that there was a campaign by supporters of Israel mostly Jewish e mail lobby associations to distort the content of wikipedia to a Jewish point of view.

This campaign usually follows Israel and USA foreign policy. The Jewish Misplaced Pages lobby demonize Iran Syria and Hezbollah while justifying the actions of Israel foreign policy. Removal of any adverse editorial on the founders of Israel demonizing the leadership of Arab countries etc.

There is also subtle distortion of history particularity in regards to the Palestinian conflict. In order to counter this organized and as such formidable onslaught on the neutrality of wikipedia Volunteers are keeping a record of hundreds of such pages and a report will be published later.

It is essential that wikipedia reflects a true world view

Even though you seem to have a Jewish name I trust you are not part of this campaign.

(message above left by anonymous contributor 81.1.117.3)

Hello. I recognise that it is very important to ensure an accurate and unbiased reporting is made of the events going on in the Middle East. Reports of any particular group conspiring to subvert this neutral point of view policy concerns me greatly, I assure you.

If you are the contributor who made edits such as this and this, then I am afraid you are the very reason the article has been semi-protected. Calling a particular party in a conflict 'terrorist' is generally frowned upon on Misplaced Pages because it prima facie violates our neutral point of view policy. It implies a value judgment that the so-called 'terrorist' is inherently in the wrong. We don't want a Jewish or a Lebanese point-of-view for our article. We want a neutral point of view.

Also, if you were responsible for the above-linked edits, you should also be made aware that edit summaries like "HELP LEBANON THE JEWS ATTACK THIS PAGE MR DANIEL IS ONE HE WISHES THIS PAGE NOT TO MENTION THE HOLOCAST TAKING PLACE HE DISTORTS THE HISTROY OF THE CONFLICT THE JEWS ARE OUT IN FORCE CHANGING WIKIPEDI" are not appropriate.

You refer to Misplaced Pages's process of reaching a common consensus that resembles a neutral point of view. This is a fair representation of how it ordinarily works. This semi-protection of the article simply means that only established Misplaced Pages editors may edit the article. We have many hundreds (probably thousands) of active, established editors. I trust that they will be able to help keep our article on Lebanon neutral and unbiased in the short term before the semi-protection is lifted. If, however, you feel in the future that you have found such systematic pro-Israeli bias has been allowed to permeate the article and shift it away from a neutral point of view, I encourage you to bring your concerns to me, in addition to your many other avenues of bringing community attention to the matter.

The article on Lebanon will likely be unprotected in time. When it does become unprotected, I ask that you remember our neutral point of view policy. If you wish to counter a bias one way, it is not good to simply twist the article around and skew it completely the opposite way. The only way is to present it from a neutral, middle ground.

In relation to your keeping a record of my actions in relation to this article, I welcome this move. Accountability for administrative actions on Misplaced Pages is not a bad thing.

Should you have any more concerns or queries, I am readily contactable on this talk page, or via the "Email this user" link. - Mark 13:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Some anoms are errasing meaningful information that incriminates Israel on the Lebanon talk page

69.196.164.190

Check my contributions and how they were deleted. 69.196.164.190

Madonna

Any idea on how long the Madonna page will be protected for? Paul75 23:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Mark, can you please come back? It seems that this person does not understand the Misplaced Pages concise write ups. We're not really coming to any conclusion here. Stewiegfan 01:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Madonna article

I think you are the one who put the block on the Madonna page. I just wanted to say I apologize for getting upset, its just he kept reverting everything. He is again removing whole sections, Stewiegfan, on the page under Documentaries. Now I think it flows better his way by removing it, but if its a verifiable thing, why is he still doing this? I am sorry to be a pain - I added what he took back out and requested he tell us why he did so. I was told once for removing sections its vandalism, isnt it for everyone then? thanks.

Request for arbitration

Ackoz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), whom you blocked, has filed a Request for arbitration appealing the block. I am posting this notice for him since he was unblocked only to file his appeal and is worried about directly posting this himself. Thatcher131 (talk) 15:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)