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Question regarding television roles under Filmography section

I was just reading the Bill Goldberg article and was looking at his televised roles under the Filmography section and got to wondering, why are professional wrestlers televised pro-wrestling roles not listed under televised roles? Just to use WWE as an example, they have their RAW and SmackDown televised shows, so in regards to wrestlers who are or have been employed by WWE and appeared on one of WWE's shows, why are those shows not listed under their televised roles? --JDC808 ♫ 04:01, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Anyone? --JDC808 ♫ 01:44, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Can no one answer this? I've looked over the project page and saw nothing about this. --JDC808 ♫ 19:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, I never hear about policies in this section. I always think it was for tv appearences outside wrestling (nitro, raw, impact...). --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:34, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
But the thing is, Raw, SmackDown, Impact, etc. are TV shows, and the wrestlers portray characters on these shows. They're not just wrestlers, they're also actors. It seems odd to not list them under their televised roles. --JDC808 ♫ 20:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Been curious about this for a while and I agree that it should be included. A quick search through the archives returns no past discussions of this. Prefall 06:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
I think it just goes without saying that any promotion with TV is going to use it to promote their talent. When we say where they worked and when, it doesn't take an investigative journalist with hurripowers to figure out which shows they did. I suppose there's no harm in adding the same bunches of shows to a huge number of articles. Just might not be worth the effort. If someone feels ambitious anyway, try and remember the difference between WWF SmackDown! and WWE SmackDown. No British Bulldog in the latter. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:27, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Hulk; while not wrong per se, it's kinda obvious and redundant to list the shows. And how do we date them? That's a proper part of a filmography. For example, someone like Samy Zayn, who showed up once on Raw and wasn't on again for months; are we going to list individual dates or such? Seems more trouble than it's worth to state something that is pretty obvious. oknazevad (talk) 12:44, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

WCW closed in APRIL of 2001, not March

It is universally held that WCW ended with the final Nitro on March 6, 2001, but it patently did not. Worldwide, hosted by Scott Hudson and Mike Tenay, aired for the final time on April 1. The filming of this episode, and the recaps shown within, indicate that there were also a variety of production staff working for the company beyond March 26. I didn't know of the April 1 Worldwide myself until last year, but clearly, two WCW shows aired on the WWF's watch, not just one. Misinformation on the closure of WCW has plagued Misplaced Pages for a very long time. B. Mastino (talk) 07:52, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I think it goes without saying but "{{citationneeded}}". CrashUnderride 23:33, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
I was going to say the same thing. Burning off a pre-taped episode of a syndicated show on a local station nearly a month week later doesn't count without some citation. oknazevad (talk) 03:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Template:Cite episode works fine. B. Mastino (talk) 22:58, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Bjt we need some evidence that the episode actually exits. That's the citation we're asking for, not how to cite it, but the actual evidence. For all we know, it was recorded immediately after Nitro went off the air that nights in about 15 minutes of actual taping time, was edited together by morning and sent out to the stations that carried Worldwide in syndication. It certainly wasn't a live show, so to claim that WCW made it to April 1 (which I might add was a whopping 5 days later) is wrong. They threw together a tape to fulfill the contracts, and then shut down as an active company during the next few days. It's a footnote at best, and frankly to call it "misinformation" that has "plagued Misplaced Pages for a long time" is hysterical hyperbole. oknazevad (talk) 16:48, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
If true, it doesn't indicate anybody was working for WCW, just that a TV station had a tape and probably an agreement to pop it in and press play. Same as how Enter the Dragon didn't mean Bruce Lee was still kicking. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:52, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
Mike Tenay and Scott Hudson were in a studio, recapping the so-called "final" WCW broadcast: the March 26 Nitro. B. Mastino (talk) 22:58, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
The History of WWE doesn't mention a Nitro recap. Just other stuff. Have any evidence? InedibleHulk (talk) 15:32, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
No, because in my research I've found distinct evidence that it was actually taped before the last Nitro, as was common for WorldWide back then to be a week behind. In short, Mastini is wrong. Yes, the already-in-the-can final episode aired after the last Nitro on either March 31 or April 1 (it depended on the market whether it aired on Saturday or Sunday) , but it was not taped after the last Nitro, did not discuss that last Nitro, and was not in anyway produced after the actual shut down of WCW as an active promotion the night of the final Nitro. So the headline of this section itself is wrong, as WCW did close in March 2001, not April. (That's not to say that the business office didn't continue to deal with the paperwork for a bit after that, but the active promotion, and the sale of the rights to the WCW name, were done by the last Nitro. oknazevad (talk) 19:05, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
You can still stick it to The Man in authentic nWo apparel. Now 80% less cancerous! Bischoff probably still gets a slice. Not sure if there are any Tony Schiavone shirts left. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:59, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
Oddly enough, today's Schiavone looks like the nWo Ted DiBiase. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:02, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Deletions

I created this AfD. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Y2AJ, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Batista and The Undertaker, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Four Horsewomen (professional wrestling). I'll appreciate the commentaries. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Also, the articles RybAxel (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/RybAxel) and The Social Outcasts (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Social Outcasts) were created again. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:13, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
At this point I'd let the Social Outcasts one stick around, as they've got their own t-shirts. Possible the Four Hirsewomen one too. The others should go. oknazevad (talk) 01:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Also, why is this a thing? - WWE Raw 2015 Survivor Series match To quote the "article", which was made only 5 days after the match took place: "The match would go on to become one of the most famous professional wrestling matches of all-time." Yeah, no. 14.200.39.137 (talk) 22:19, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The JBL and Cole Show (2nd nomination) and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/ShoMiz (2nd nomination) will likely be closed soon and haven't gotten much input.LM2000 (talk) 00:40, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
This is what WP:A7 and WP:A10 are for. Let's not be afraid to use speedy deletion tags people. Feedback 17:23, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
A7 would be inappropriate, as the articles all indicate some importance. A10 could apply if the articles were identical re-creations of content deleted via AfD, but not if someone has tried to rebuild an article that was formerly deleted. GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:29, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Christian status

Hi. I see a discussion over and over. It's about Christian Cage. According to the sources, in 2014, Jerry Lawler said Cage is retired from in ring competition. This information was repeated many times, event Christian said "while he has had no formal discussion with management regarding his retirement, he is unlikely to wrestle again". However, some users say he is retired from WWE, so it doesn't mean he retired from pro wrestling. So... is Christian a retired wrestler or not? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:32, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

He hasn't wrestled for years so he is de facto retired. McPhail (talk) 18:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Bottom line is, Christian has never declared himself to be a retired wrestler. Ric Flair was also retired in WWE's eyes, and went on to wrestle on the 2009 Hulkamania Tour, as well as in TNA from 2010–2011. B. Mastino (talk) 18:02, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Bottom line is he's not wrestling, has not wrestled for years. So that's what the article should state, the fact - if he returns to wrestling after his contract expires then the article will be updated to state that fact at that time. Anything beyond that is speculative. MPJ-US  18:29, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
If we don't care to call him a retired wrestler then why not an inactive wrestler? Tabercil (talk) 00:37, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

I believe user Martimc123 is back

I just added two suspected socks of Martimc123 - Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Martimc123, those of you that know this user knows to be on the look out for recreation of deleted articles on small time championships and tournaments, especially Japanese ones (but also Mexican), sometimes under weird names. If you have those under observation be aware.  MPJ-US  21:39, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I think he's challenging me to something. I didn't even have anything to do with the blocking process this week. What a pest. When will he realize he's just wasting his time? リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)(ZOOM) 22:38, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
He also uses the pt.wiki to create these articles (by the way, with a horrible portuguese)... Pedrohoneto (talk) 23:28, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Lord James Blears

I'm trying to keep the "Deaths" section of the 2016 in professional wrestling article up to date. I haven't been able to find a specific date for the death of Lord James Blears. The f4wonline story just says "this week" () but says that there will be more discussion of him. Does anyone have access to the content on f4wonline that might give a more specific date (or know of any other reliable source that might give the date)? GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:59, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter says 3/3. You can use this: <ref>{{cite journal|last=Meltzer|first=Dave|authorlink=Dave Meltzer|date=March 14, 2016|title=March 14, 2016 Wrestling Observer Newsletter: Diaz defeats McGregor, Hayabusa passes away|journal=]|location=]|issn=1083-9593|page=20}}</ref> リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)(ZOOM) 17:40, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

That explains my confusion. I was sure that there was no article on Blears, then I saw the article last night and couldn't figure out how I'd missed it. There are a few other wrestlers that could be added if sources can be found (based on the Wrestling Memories Tribute Page on Facebook): Mike Flowers (Moondog Puppy Love) died on March 10, Eddie Einhorn (co-founder of the International Wrestling Association) died on February 24, Maurice Owen Grimbly (Cyclone Smith) died on February 17, John Wensor (Ed Wensor/Mr. X) died on February 18, Kevin Randleman died on February 11, Jack Eaton (announcer in Memphis) died on February 3, Manny/Manuel Villalobos died on February 1, Abel C. Reynosa (Taras Bulba/Juan Reynosa) died on January 27, Phil Davis (referee in Manchester) died on January 26, Charlie Plambeck (ring announcer in Germany) died on January 20, Michael Dean (Mike Dean/Darren Dean/Darren Richardson) died on January 15, Michael Shepherd (NWA-UK Hammerlock Wrestling) died in January, Bob Leonard (listed on the CAC page) died on January 9, Robert L. Miller (Bob Miller/Farmer Miller) died on January 5, Billy Scream (a Tucson-based wrestler) died within the last couple of weeks. GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:53, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Vincent J. McMahon Legacy of Excellence Award

There's something of a slow edit war over whether this "award" should be in the championships and accomplishments section of Stephanie McMahon's page. I don't think it should. Here are the arguments.

  • "But but but it's an award!"
    • No, it's a storyline plot device. Nothing more. There have been many similar things done. Vince's various MSG honours? Not on his page. Rusev's various Russian honours? Not on his page. Iron Sheik's Olympic silver medal? Not on his page. Hogan's MSG banner? Not on his page. We also do not note other storyline things like being a GM, which is in itself a WWE accomplishment.
  • "But but but anything WWE does is notable!"
    • But is this really notable? It was one segment on Raw and it was only used to further a storyline. No criteria was given, no indication was made that it would be regular. It was a one and done thing.
  • "But but but Championships are also storyline honours!"
    • Maybe in the modern WWE, but for decades championships signified that one was the best and was able to draw money. They were used to advertise and title matches were huge sellers. Unfortunately, users like HHH Pedrigree are only familiar with modern WWE and are unaware of this. So he thinks the WWE Championships is on even ground with this award.
  • "But but but we note the Slammys!"
    • To be honest, I don't really care if we do or not. At least with the current Slammys they are (allegedly) done through legitimate fan voting, and have an entire special devoted to them.

Hey, if this DOES end up being a yearly thing, or they make it notable, maybe it should be included. Until then it should not. -- Scorpion 18:53, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Since this discussion, we include a lot of awards and tournaments in the articles. The Slammy, NXT end of the Year, NOAH awards. Now, 1) Plot device. Wrestling is fiction, so everything is a plot device. The Slammy Match of the Year was a plot device (Michaels-Taker II), The Dusty Rhodes Tournament was a plot device (Joe-Balor) In a fiction, every title and awards is a plot device. 2) We include the Terri Runnels tournament, the Slammy Awards for Best T-Shit, Double Vision, Best Hastag... Slammys I never hear about a legit fan voting. Also, we note the NOAH Awards, NJPW awards, TNA awards, NXT Awards, Bragging Rights trophy, ... 3) I don't get your point. Past is better, good for you. The Award is notable, WWE promoted it one week prior. No matter if was just one segment in RAW, Ins't matter of time (Trish Stratus was named Diva of the Decade in one night segment). The criteria is simple, the Award exist, it's notable and is sourced. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

With most of your cited examples (Slammys, NOAH Awards) they are established and have been around for years. I'd also argue that the Terri Tournament was notable because it spanned several weeks and helped launch the careers of four future stars. Thus they have notability. This "award" does not. It was only created for the storyline. Job finished, award never gets mentioned again. The WWE Championship and all the others, however, have long established notability and real world implications. The WWE Title draws interest. The Slammys draw interest. The Bragging Rights Trophy was the center point of an entire ppv. This award was in the opening of Raw. Just because other crap exists it doesn't mean it should exist here. Just because other pages have a low standard doesn't mean this one should too. Also for the record, I'm not saying it shouldn't be noted in the article, it simply doesn't belong in the championships and accomplishments section. Including it smacks of recentism. -- Scorpion 21:56, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
WWE and other reliable sources talk about the Award one week before the ceremony. It's sourced. What's the matter? It was mentioned ONCE? It was a one night only award? Plot device, one night ceremony, just an annual award aren't excuses to delete the Award. It's an storyline award created by WWE, just like Roman Reigns Slammy Award, Miss WrestleMania Crown or Bragging Rights Trophy --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:10, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
I don't think the VJM Legacy Award should be listed in the championship and accomplishment section. Mention it in the text, but putting it in C&A makes it seem much more important than it actually was. But I also feel that way about the Miss WrestleMania Crown, Terri Invitational Tournament, etc. Nikki♥311 00:39, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

The answer to this, just like the answer to everything on Misplaced Pages, is going by what the sources say. The award was promoted and awarded by a major promotion, and it was covered by multiple reliable sources that are independent of WWE. It's not up to Misplaced Pages editors to decide what makes an award "real", so it goes in. If it was up to us to decide, I'd remove any mentions of the WWE European Championship. I thought it was stupid. The sources trump my feelings, however, just as they trump a Misplaced Pages debate about what makes this fake award less important than another fake award. GaryColemanFan (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

So you want to play the "fake award" and "it's all fiction" card, eh? Alright, let's treat this as such and refer to Stephanie as a fictional character. Per WP:FICTION, this is a minor one-episode occurrence and it's inclusion is overdetailing of a minor event. Yes, it got real world coverage, but mostly just wrestling sites and recaps. Here's a fun fact: In an episode of The Simpsons (Homer's Barbershop Quartet), Homer wins a Grammy. This has also been covered by real world sources to the point where a google search gets 400,000+ hits (compared to 91,000 for Stephanie ) and guess what? It's not even mentioned on his page (which is a FA, by the way). And you know why? It's because he's been in hundreds of television episodes and a single-episode occurrence is not notable on the grand scheme of things. For Stephanie McMahon the real person, it's a plot device. For Stephanie McMahon the fictional character it's a one-episode thing and no more notable than anything else she's done in the hundreds of other episodes she was in. It's less notable than any of the other fictional achievements mentioned (and in this context you can't even begin to compare it to the European Championship, which appeared in many episodes over the years and has more real coverage). It smacks of recentism and after WrestleMania any notability you might think this "award" has will have vanished. -- Scorpion 15:15, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Scorpion. oknazevad (talk) 15:37, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

No, the "fake award" was a passing comment at the end of a statement about sources. And, before I go any further, you need to lose the attitude. The "but but but" crap, the "HHH Pedigree is so ignorant he thinks..." comments, and your tone as a whole have no place here, or anywhere else on Misplaced Pages for that matter. WWE has announced this Stephanie as the "first recipient," indicating that they plan to continue the award. Reliable sources have reported on it, including Bill Apter, Bryan Alvarez, and Dave Meltzer. Your comparison to Google hits undermines your argument, if anything. You're saying that an award presented last month already has 1/4 of the coverage of something that happened 23 years ago. The fact of the matter is that it's being promoted as a real award, the WWE has indicated that they will be continuing the award, and that the biggest names in wrestling journalism are discussing and debating it just as they would any other award. On your side, you have speculation that they might drop the idea despite their stated intention of keeping it (a violation of WP:CRYSTAL, which is policy) and an argument about recentism (and we need to keep in mind that WP:RECENT is just an essay), and a comparison to The Simpsons (which could be trumped with the more relevant argument that the TNA World Beer Drinking Championship is listed in "Championships and accomplishments" sections).

Whaaaa... You mean Apter and Alverez and Meltzer did their jobs as wrestling reporters and reported on wrestling (covering the episode mainly and the award in passing)? I should also point out that in several of their radio shows Alvarez and Meltzer were quick to dismiss the award after learning that it was all storyline. You don't have much on your side either. You are also violating WP:CRYSTAL by assuming it will be back and have provided no sources to prove otherwise (and of course she's the "first recipient", that proves nothing). Keep in mind that SOME editorial restraint is necessary, especially for notable people. Barrack Obama's article would be ten times longer if editors didn't sift through and make some judgment call on notability. Every Raw episode ever has also been reported on by Apter and Alvarez and Meltzer and I could easily pull out the same sources for notability on anything. And all of this simply skirts the real issue: The championships and accomplishments section is reserved for things with a foot in reality. This does not belong there. As for the TNA Beer Drinking Championship, it's not the point here. If you want it removed, bring it up elsewhere. -- Scorpion 16:49, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Foot in reality? Do you have a criteria? The Award is a physical award (just like the wwe title). Is a plot device, just like the rumble, The money in the bank... Is sourced... Wrestling is "an athletic form of entertainment based on a portrayal of a combat sport". Wrestlers win fictional championships in scripted matches. What kinf of reality are you talking about? The WWE Championship is a fictional title, just like the Royal Rumble, The King of the Ring. As Garysaid, there is no point to say "this fake award less important than another fake award".--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:59, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm tilting towards agreeing with HHH and Gary here. It was covered by WP:RS. We also need to be consistent. Without established criteria, it's just another scripted award in a scripted industry, and deserves to be listed just like any other accomplishment. Homer Simpson does not have a "championships and accomplishments" section, unlike our wrestlers. starship.paint ~ KO 05:13, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Scorpion. It is notable in one particular storyline and can be mentioned in that context (even in Stephanie's article, though in a achievements section). It is a plot device and even within the storyline an award given for nothing. Comparisons with championships, tournaments and the Royal Rumble are wrongheaded. These latter involve real pro wrestling matches and though the outcomes are scripted the titles wins are not fiction. And they play a major role one each and every wrestling show. Not just on once night. Str1977 20:46, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Title wins are fiction, just like the Awards. A booker (Vince) decides who wins/recieves the title/Vince Award/Random Slammy awards. From a fictional POV, are the same. Also, they are plot devices. Michaels won the match of the year slammy, a plot device to WM rematch. Storm TNA Worl title was a plot device too, Beer Money dissolution and feud. Also, I don't know why time is part of the criteria. Again, Sin Cara won the Slammy Best ilusion... never mentioned again. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:58, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, what about the Slammy Awards then? starship.paint ~ KO 00:47, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

So honors given for dubious reasons without any real criteria don't go in the Championships and Accomplishments section? To that, I would respond: James Dudley, Antonino Rocca, Ernie Ladd, Mikel Scicluna, Johnny Rodz, Junkyard Dog, Peter Maivia, Rocky Johnson, Koko B. Ware...need I go on? GaryColemanFan (talk) 01:50, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism edits on Diva pages

User:The Tornado SuperHouseyinc is massively vandalizing articles including Paige (wrestler), Sasha Banks, and Becky Lynch, changing championship reigns and other info, as well as List of WCW World Heavyweight Champions, changing reign counts, adding current WWE Divas onto the article. I'm trying to revert his edits. Someone please check this out. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 21:14, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Posted at WP:AIV. Clearly WP:NOTHERE. Will be indeffed shortly, I'm sure. oknazevad (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, @Oknazevad: I really needed the help. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 21:43, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Alberto Del Rio

Looks like I'm back here. So from what I have seen, User:Qudghks2020, also they creator and reposter of The League of Nations (professional wrestling) and 3MB WWE articles, for the past few months has been changing, renaming, and adding signature and finishing moves to many wrestling articles that, in my eyes, are completely nonconstructive. Looking at his contributions, it's almost the only thing the user does. One of these being on the Alberto Del Rio article. Since last month, he has been moving his superkick move into the finishers section, also adding "Sh! Kick" as the name of the move. Is there any source that shows this as the actual name of the move? As I have never heard anyone call the move that. I keep reverting his edits on the many articles as they seem very nonconstructive and have previously tried to contact him through is talk page last month, to which he hasn't responded. Also, The League of Nations (professional wrestling) article has recently been recreated. Would love to hear a response on both topics. Thanks. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 02:22, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Decay (professional wrestling)

Someone has gone and recreated the recently deleted article. Just thought people should know. CrashUnderride 11:55, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Probably because they won the TNA tag titles at the last set of tapings last week. Indeed, they won them on the 19ty, and the article was created on the 20th. Are the TNA tag titles enough to make them article-worthy? I don't know, but I'd be reluctant to delete, if only because it is linked from the current champions article and the section at the main TNA article. oknazevad (talk) 12:21, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

House of Glory (wrestling)

User:Dual Partition created an article for Amazing Red's training school. I'm not sure it meets notability. CrashUnderride 20:47, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

I did a quick search and added three sources. It's a stub, but I think being featured in an MTV article is enough to establish notability. GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:26, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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