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I agree with Magioladitis. Books first published before the ISBN system was invented do not get ISBN in the infobox, which has first edition information. One I noticed for a 1936 book by a British author yielded a 2006 American published edition (tracing it out on World Cat). Editors can add isbn for more recent editions in Publication history section of the article if it exists but no in the infobox, but for major authors, this is not done -- e.g., Auten, Dickens, Bronte, Twain, Harper Lee, though their books are still in print. Plus such a big change needs to be placed in the infobox book template so an editor knows what is expected. Now that template says use first edition isbn, for example. --] (]) 08:39, 2 April 2016 (UTC) I agree with Magioladitis. Books first published before the ISBN system was invented do not get ISBN in the infobox, which has first edition information. One I noticed for a 1936 book by a British author yielded a 2006 American published edition (tracing it out on World Cat). Editors can add isbn for more recent editions in Publication history section of the article if it exists but no in the infobox, but for major authors, this is not done -- e.g., Auten, Dickens, Bronte, Twain, Harper Lee, though their books are still in print. Plus such a big change needs to be placed in the infobox book template so an editor knows what is expected. Now that template says use first edition isbn, for example. --] (]) 08:39, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:Is there any indication of when the changes are likely to be reverted? They're still in place now, and the effects, apparently including the addition of inaccurate information to infoboxes that cannot readily be removed, are very aggravating. ] (]) 09:55, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


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Change to WP:Books

When are we going to do something about this daft surname only disambiguation rule for 20th Century writers? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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"#property:" in Infobox Books

In case anyone comes across an infobox parameter where "#property:" has been added, as in this version of Phantoms in the Brain, it seems that this is a system which adds Wikidata to the record so that content can be re-used across different Wikipedias (eg {{#property:P212}} for isbn). It doesn't appear to be clearly documented anywhere yet. See discussion at User_talk:Magioladitis#Phantoms_in_the_Brain. PamD 16:53, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I've noticed that all of a sudden, the infoboxes of books are now sometimes showing the "genre" parameter automatically, even when the book is non-fiction. Is this related? It seems totally wrong, given that "genre" is specifically for fiction works only, per Template:Infobox book. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I also noticed that in case of multiple ISBN entries, this addition displays all of them. Sometimes, these ISBNs are not even from the first edition of the book. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:16, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

OK after some consideration I think the recent changes have to be reverted for now till we really synchronise how the Infobox grabs the info from Wikidata. For example in many cases we have omitted the display of an ISBN for a reason. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:26, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

@Prairieplant, Frietjes, and Bgwhite: -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:29, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Magioladitis. Books first published before the ISBN system was invented do not get ISBN in the infobox, which has first edition information. One I noticed for a 1936 book by a British author yielded a 2006 American published edition (tracing it out on World Cat). Editors can add isbn for more recent editions in Publication history section of the article if it exists but no in the infobox, but for major authors, this is not done -- e.g., Auten, Dickens, Bronte, Twain, Harper Lee, though their books are still in print. Plus such a big change needs to be placed in the infobox book template so an editor knows what is expected. Now that template says use first edition isbn, for example. --Prairieplant (talk) 08:39, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Is there any indication of when the changes are likely to be reverted? They're still in place now, and the effects, apparently including the addition of inaccurate information to infoboxes that cannot readily be removed, are very aggravating. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 09:55, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Notice regarding use of Goodreads template as an EL

Interested Project members are invited to comment on a discussion regarding the use of the {{tl:Goodreads}} template. Here is the link: WP:External_links/Noticeboard#Is_Goodreads_an_appropriate_EL.3F. 20:03, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk:What's So Amazing About Grace?/GA1

Can anyone help here? The nominator Neelix appears to be inactive since November last year. Thanks. Sainsf <^>Feel at home 13:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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