Revision as of 17:04, 24 August 2006

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Current Posts

Marriage

Many congratulations, and best wishes for a long and happy life together. AnnH ♫ 18:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Uhura.jpg

I see you're inactive, but this is just to let you know that I've retagged Image:Uhura.jpg. Publicity photos are, generally speaking, not in the public domain. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 02:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Long time, no see

Saw on your user page that you are at the Persian Gulf. Stay safe, cannot wait until you come home. Make us proud. User:Zscout370 06:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll be on and off the site until about October. Thanks for the GWOTEM! -Husnock 19:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hostel (film) and Tourism in Slovakia

Hi. I wrote my comment at Talk:Tourism in Slovakia. I really hope that this useless edit war will end soon. Juro has made great contributions to the articles dealing with Slovakia (and Central Europe in general), but his style of communication may be sometimes irritating. In general, talk pages of the Central European articles are far from the standards of civility and even serious editors (including Juro) frequently lose their temper as they must deal with all sorts of nationalist freaks (usually anonymous IPs blanking text or adding their badly written POV). I mention it just to explain you the invisible context of Juro's behavior. I would like also to ask you for your opinion about the "war in Slovakia" mentioned in the Hostel movie. I think it was clearly a reference to an alleged recent conflict (probably the one in former Yugoslavia or an entirely fictious one) and I do not fully understand why you added a reference to WWII. Tankred 15:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I opened up a talk page section on it. I just thought it was WWII becuase thats the only major war I know about in which Slovakia has been involved. -Husnock 19:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:NavCivWarMed.jpg

This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:NavCivWarMed.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Misplaced Pages (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Misplaced Pages:Fair use, use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 03:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair-use image removed from your user page

Hello, Husnock. I've removed Image:Us-ma-bo.png from User:Husnock/Travel, as it is a copyrighted image that is being used under a claim of fair use. Unfortunately, by Misplaced Pages policies, no fair-use images can be used on user pages; please see Misplaced Pages:Removal of fair use images. This image has not been deleted from any articles. If you have any questions, please let me know. —Bkell (talk) 23:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Flags on user pages was discussed long ago. There was a general concensus that innocent display of flags on a user page is not a copyright violation, espeically United States flags. Also, as I am inactive on this site (checking once every 2-3 months), I ask please to avoid making changes to my user pages as I am not here to review them or defend any reverts. -Husnock 16:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Lieutenant (and if you're LCDR now, my apologies), I concur with Bkell. The image Bkell removed is tagged with a fair use tag. Regardless of any discussions, the policy as expressed at Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria item #9 is clear and unequivocal. No fair use is permitted outside of the main article namespace. There is agreement that national and state flags are clear of copyright concerns. However, this does not descend to local government flags. In such cases it is a case by case basis, and in this case the image noted above has not been cleared of copyright concerns. Thus, it is properly tagged as fair use. If you want to use the flag, then contact City of Boston government and gain clearance from them to have the image released under a free license.
• Similarly, I've removed a large number of images from your travel page that are tagged as fair use images. I respect that you may be travelling, and your userpage indicates you are on deployment as an officer in the USNR. Regardless, not being available to defend, due to absence, your usage in contravention of our fair use policies is not a defensible position, as it is always possible to revert the removals should our fair use policy change. Respectfully, --Durin 13:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I reverted before seeing your note...sorry, thought it was someone just taking a bunch of images off the page. Anyway, I can see the point, but believe me, this was beat to death with a stick about 6-8 months ago when a user was tagging pages with copyright violations whenever a fair-use image was displayed and then launched into massive vandalism and personal attacks when people protested. Anyway, at that time a great number of people indicagted flags on user pages was okay. Its also an image-tag thing since every one of the flags could probably be uploaded nder a different copyright header if someone had the time. I, myself, do not. So, is it harmful to Misplaced Pages to have those flags on my user page? And, if they are removed from mine, is there an effort to remove them from everyone's page who displays flags? Can we leave them alone for now? If so, I will work on re-uploading the fair-use flags under other tags when I have the chance to contact some of the agencies. Thanks- -Husnock 14:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

• I strongly suggest you do not retag the various flag images without clearly getting permission from the respective copyright holders to the effect that images of the flag are under a free license. Re-tagging the images without getting explicit permissions would be a serious breach. The reason having such images on your page is harmful is two-fold. First, other users see your page and can create similar pages. For an example, see User:Miwasatoshi/travel list (though not necessarily mimicing you in particular). Users see people doing things and think, "Hey, I'd like that too!". This has caused innumerable problems with userbox fair use violations alone. Second and most importantly, the use of fair use images especially as you used them most definitely violates fair use law. The usage on your travel page is purely decorative. There is no discussion of the seal/flag, no discussion at all in fact; it's purely decorative. It's no different than if you made a t-shirt with the Coca-Cola logo on it and claimed fair use. It is flatly illegal. This exposes Misplaced Pages to copyright suits. Misplaced Pages receives legal correspondence on a daily basis. The value to the project gained by you having a page that violates copyright law, when that page in no way contributes to the actual encyclopedia, is non-existent. Thus, the use of such images in breach of copyright law is not acceptable. I've reverted your re-insertion of the images onto your travel page. I strongly urge you to seek out the actual copyright status of any given image before retagging images, and do not violate Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria item #9 unless you get an explicit exemption at Misplaced Pages:Fair use exemptions to do so. Though, such exemption is unlikely to be granted in this case. This fair use violation may have been hashed out somewhere else; regardless, it has had no impact on our fair use policy and has not shown up on our exemptions list. Until such time as it does, the use is in violation of our policies and in violation of law. Respectfully, --Durin 15:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I had, of course, intended to contact the various cities for flags to use with permission I simply meant most cities will just e-mail you what the flag is if you ask and its not that hard to find out. Anyway, thsi is all fine. A note about your revert, I added a notice to the page to please list on the talk page flags which are removed, I think your revert of my revert blanked the notice. I guess I should also clarify, the page was created to list the places and cities I've been for research, providing a link to each place. The flags are nice to look at. So, if you want to remove them, to avoid making the page difficult to restore, please list what you've done on User talk:Husnock/Travel. Thank you! -Husnock 16:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

• Understand that in getting permission, it's insufficient to get permission to use on Misplaced Pages. We accept two general types of permissions here; fair use, and free-license. Used with permission is not within those two categories. Any such permission will be viewed here as fair use. I did see the comment in the page as I reviewed your changes prior to reverting. I'm careful to review changes before reverting them, to avoid deleting things in appropriate. I intentionally removed the comment because it's meaningless. I don't say that to in any way disparage what you said, but the reality is that if an image is removed for vandalism or without sufficient reason, a simple revert is sufficient. I've reverted disputed changes a number of times with an edit summary to the effect that no reason was given for the change. People are more likely to see an edit summary than an embedded comment. --Durin 16:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Again, this is all fine, but surely you're not saying I can't have a notice on my user page if I want to. There is no Wiki regulation about that sort of thing that I know if. I've also had problems in the past with people deleting cities because they didn't think I was *really* there (some vandalism on North Korea resulted from all that) so I thought the notice was a good idea. So, if you are going to do a massive image removal, please visit User talk:Husnock/Travel and explain what flags were removed and why. That will allow me to make the corrections instead of digging through the edit hsitories in a year when I come back to the US to do this research. Thanks!

• de-indent Yeah that's fine if you want a notice on the page. I'm just saying it's not the best way to move forward in my opinion. I delete fair use violations as I find them, rather than notifying users on purpose. You may wish to see Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Durin and fair use image removals, where I initiated discussion on this very point. The overwhelming consensus was that prior notification was not the way to go. So, I leave a detailed edit summary. It's been sufficient in 99%+ of the cases (I've done about 2200 of these now).
• You're leaving on deployment for Iraq shortly? If so, a very major THANK YOU FOR SERVING and I hope it all goes well for you. I too have done my turn on the line (not Iraq though) and know the sacrifices you are making. Many, many thanks. --Durin 17:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

NFCs

By all means, put it back in. If you can, add some more detail on the topic. Arcimpulse 06:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Starfleet uniforms

Article has recently survived a vfd, so I though you might want to contribute there. --Cat out 13:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Starfleet rank article

I was removing those referances as you were reverting. See the toal change for yourself . None of that is inaproporate.

--Cat out 14:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I explained it on the talk page. The page version was full of bad info; the revert was anything but senseless. Looks fine now, though. -Husnock 14:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)