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::Note that I have rephrased the restriction as follows: '''{{user|EllenCT}} is indefinitely banned from the topic of economics, broadly construed.''' <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-size:3">]</span><sup>]</sup> 17:33, 23 June 2016 (UTC) ::Note that I have rephrased the restriction as follows: '''{{user|EllenCT}} is indefinitely banned from the topic of economics, broadly construed.''' <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-size:3">]</span><sup>]</sup> 17:33, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Dear Ellen, I beg you to reconsider your planned challenge to the topic ban. I suggest moving forward and reforming your style of editing. Remember the saying that insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"? As I mentioned before, being polite, doing the work to find reliable sources, and being scrupulously honest about those sources, is the only way to get things to 'stick' on Misplaced Pages. There is plenty of corporate-sponsored disinformation that needs correcting on Misplaced Pages. You'll do good work if you stick to correcting or removing obvious right-wing disinformation. ] (]) 04:34, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2016-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Some pages do not turn in up in categories where they should be. This is because link tables are sometimes not populated.

Changes this week

  • The Nuke extension will work with Flow. This will make it easier to handle spam in Flow.
  • New file uploads will now be patrollable.
  • Internet Explorer 8 will no longer have JavaScript support. You will still be able to browse and edit Misplaced Pages if you use Internet Explorer 8, but will not be able to use some features. This can be solved by upgrading to a newer version or switching to a different browser.

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 January at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • URLs in the recent changes IRC feed will no longer be rewritten to unencrypted HTTP. This could be a breaking change for bots dependent on the IRC feed.
  • The edit tabs for the wikitext editor and the visual editor will be combined to one single edit tab. You will be able to choose which one you prefer. If you are not logged in, your choice will be saved as a cookie in your browser. You can test the single edit tab.
  • There is a beta feature that adds links to the subject on other Wikimedia projects. This works much like the links to for example Misplaced Pages articles in other languages. It will go out of beta testing and be enabled for everyone in January. Wikis that don't want this can decide to have it disabled.
  • The difference between "alerts" and "messages" notifications is unclear to some. The developers want feedback at the Phabricator task or on MediaWiki.org so they can make this better. You can give feedback in your language if you can't write in English.

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Tech News: 2016-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You will be able to find or mark bugs and suggestions in Phabricator that are specific for your language or wiki.
  • Notifications have been upgraded with more detailed and easier-to-access information. See the documentation. Cross-wiki notifications will be available soon on the two test wikis.

Changes this week

  • The visual editor uses the TemplateData extension to make editing templates easier. You will now get a warning when you edit a TemplateData form and leave it without saving.
  • MediaWiki will get a new authentication and authorization system called AuthManager. This is planned to happen in a month or two. Some bots will need to change how they log in. Two new and more stable authentication methods will be available now: Owner-only OAuth credentials and bot passwords. You can read more about the change.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 January. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 January. It will be on all Wikipedias from 21 January (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 January at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is governance model. The meeting will be on 20 January at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 6

Newsletter • January 2016

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

What comes next

Some good news: the Wikimedia Foundation has renewed WikiProject X. This means we can continue focusing on making WikiProjects better.

During our first round of work, we created a prototype WikiProject based on two ideas: (1) WikiProjects should clearly present things for people to do, and (2) The content of WikiProjects should be automated as much as possible. We launched pilots, and for the most part it works. But this approach will not work for the long term. While it makes certain aspects of running a WikiProject easier, it makes the maintenance aspects harder.

We are working on a major overhaul that will address these issues. New features will include:

  • Creating WikiProjects by simply filling out a form, choosing which reports you want to generate for your project. This will work with existing bots in addition to the Reports Bot reports. (Of course, you can also have sections curated by humans.)
  • One-click button to join a WikiProject, with optional notifications.
  • Be able to define your WikiProject's scope within the WikiProject itself by listing relevant pages and categories, eliminating the need to tag every talk page with a banner. (You will still be allowed to do that, of course. It just won't be required.)

The end goal is a collaboration tool that can be used by WikiProjects but also by any edit-a-thon or group of people that want to coordinate on improving articles. Though implemented as an extension, the underlying content will be wikitext, meaning that you can continue to use categories, templates, and other features as you normally would.

This will take a lot of work, and we are just getting started. What would you like to see? I invite you to discuss on our talk page.


Until next time,

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Tech News: 2016-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now follow when pages are added or removed from a category on German Misplaced Pages. The plan is to add it to Wikimedia Commons and other Wikipedias this week.
  • Administrators can hide individual entries of a page with RevisionDelete. There is now a button to choose "all", "none" or "inverse" in Special:Log. The article history will get the same buttons soon. Wikis that have done this locally with JavaScript will be able to remove that code.

Changes this week

  • You will be able to see the references when you preview a section you are editing. This will happen even if there is no <references /> tag in that section.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 January. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 January. It will be on all wikis from 28 January (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 26 January at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • There is now an extension called ArticlePlaceholder. It can automatically generate content on Misplaced Pages with data from Wikidata if there is no Misplaced Pages article. It will have a tag to remind the reader it is not an article and ask the reader to create one. The developer is now looking for smaller Wikipedias that want to try the extension.
  • The OTRS system will be upgraded. The plan is to do this on 3 February at 08:00 (UTC). It will probably take 6 to 8 hours. OTRS will be down during the upgrade.
  • Users will soon be automatically congratulated when they reach some edit count milestones.

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Tech News: 2016-05

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Sites with a wikimedia.org address were by mistake redirected to the Wikimedia Foundation wiki on 26 January. This included Meta and Wikimedia Commons. The mistake was fixed after an hour.
  • Some users had problems logging in and out around 22 January. Bots also had problems and edit previews did not work properly. This was because of problems related to the new component SessionManager. It was undone on 23 January.
  • Because of new problems with SessionManager the latest version of MediaWiki was removed from the Wikimedia wikis again on 31 January. The new version this week will be without SessionManager.

Changes this week

  • The page history will get a help link. This will go to Help:Page history on Meta. Wikis can exchange it for a link to their local pages.
  • Notifications will only show part of a page name if it is very long. You will also have another way to mark notifications as read.
  • The Universal Language Selector input methods are now available with the visual editor. This means many who write in non-Latin scripts can now use the visual editor.
  • The visual editor will now give you more tools to edit tables. You can move rows and columns in a table and copy parts of tables to make new ones. You can also copy and paste more than one cell at the same time.
  • The visual editor has a new warning message when you leave a page you are editing without saving. Non-English wikis might need to translate it.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 February. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 February. It will be on all wikis from 4 February (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • The rest.wikimedia.org domain will be shut down. This is planned to happen in March. You should use /api/rest_v1/ at each individual project domain instead.


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Tech News: 2016-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Syntax highlighting support is now available for 53 more computer languages.
  • When you get a notification that an edit has been reverted, the notification now quotes part of the edit summary.
  • RESTBase is now using scrub_wikitext instead of scrubWikitext.

Changes this week

  • Wikidata will have a new data type called "math". It will be used for formulas.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Other sites will be able to tell when visitors come from links on Misplaced Pages and other Wikimedia sites. They used to be able to do this until we started using forced HTTPS in June 2015. This is planned to happen on 15 February.
  • Wikidata will have a new data type called "external-id". It will be used for references to external resources. It will be enabled on February 16. Some properties will be changed to the new data type.

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Tech News: 2016-07

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now edit pages on the mobile site version without JavaScript.
  • You can now use the Math extension to write chemistry formulas.

Problems

  • A few editors might have been logged in as someone else because of a bug. For security reasons everyone was logged out on 9 February. If you have seen this bug, you can report it.

Changes this week

  • There is a beta feature that adds links to the subject on other Wikimedia projects. The plan was to have it leave beta testing and be enabled for everyone in January. It will happen on 16 February instead. Wikis that don't want this can decide to have it disabled.
  • Cross-wiki notifications will be available as a beta feature on Wikidata, MediaWiki, Commons, and all Hebrew and French wikis on 19 February.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 16 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The search function on Wikimedia wikis will get a completion suggester that tries to find the right pages as the user is typing. It will also recognize some typos. This will probably happen in March. It is currently in beta.

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Tech News: 2016-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • There was no new MediaWiki version last week. Changes that were planned to happen last week will happen this week instead. This is because of a bug that made saving pages take longer time.

Changes this week

  • After February 23, you can use Wikidata for inter-language links on Wikiversity.

Meetings

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18:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 7

Newsletter • February 2016

This month:

One database for Misplaced Pages requests

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Misplaced Pages, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Misplaced Pages Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Misplaced Pages. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Misplaced Pages, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Misplaced Pages. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

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Tech News: 2016-09

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Thanks to the Graph extension and Pageview API, we now have {{Graph:PageViews}} templates that can show pageviews for any wiki page for any of the wikis. See the examples.
  • The Capiunto extension is installed on test wiki. Capiunto provides flexible infobox functionality for Scribunto and generates HTML for infobox features such as headers and rows. It is designed for clean and modern infoboxes that are driven by data from Wikidata, easily usable across different language versions, and easily extensible.
  • The visual editor now follows the TemplateData format setting announced in November. When you edit or add a use of a template, the wikitext will be laid out in one of the two ways.
  • The order of parameters and format defined in a template's TemplateData will be now respected.

Changes this week

  • On wikis where the visual editor is available in single edit tab mode, red links may open the visual editor instead of the wikitext editor, depending on user preferences.
  • Anonymous editor warning is now displayed as a warningbox for consistency in both the visual editor and the wikitext editor.
  • Parsoid has been updated to fit some HTML 5 specifications.

Meetings

  • Resigning executive director Lila Tretikov is taking questions at Knowledge Engine FAQ regarding the much talked about project.
  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2016-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Files on Wikimedia Commons can now be 2 GB big. The old limit was 1 GB.
  • Welcome notifications now have a different symbol. English Misplaced Pages already had this one.
  • The Wikimedia memory cache servers in the Eqiad cluster have now been upgraded to Debian 8 (Jessie). Some users might have had to log in again because of this.
  • It is now easier to categorize images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons in the Commons Android app.
  • Bare attributes in tags now parse according to the HTML5 specifications. <pages from= to= section=1> will parse as <pages from="to=" section="1"> instead of <pages from="" to="" section="1"> as it used to. Please use <pages from="" to="" section=1> or <pages section=1> instead. This is mostly likely to affect pages on Wikisource projects.

Problems

  • Phabricator has been a bit unstable lately. This should be fixed now.
  • The PageView API shows wrong data between 23 February and 29 February for pages with special characters in their title.
  • The parsing change mentioned above caused a large number of pages to break, especially on Wikisource.
  • You may see falsely formatted edit links on both mobile and desktop devices. Mobile devices can also show incorrect formatted table of contents. This should be fixed soon.
  • Templates using TemplateData that were edited with the visual editor might have some problems in wikitext mode. This can be fixed by editing and saving the page by using the visual editor without making any changes.

Changes this week

  • Cross-wiki notifications will be enabled as a beta feature on all wikis on 10 March. You will be able to get notifications when something happens on another Wikimedia wiki.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 March. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 March. It will be on all wikis from 10 March (calendar).
  • Wikivoyages will get the Kartographer extension. Kartographer will allow <mapframe> and <maplink> tags in an article to insert an interactive map and overlay it with different markers. You can add ideas and suggestions to the Maps talk page. If you find any bugs, you can report them in Phabricator.

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The buttons in interfaces will be simplified. Instead of white, red, green and blue buttons, in future there will only be white, red and blue ones.
  • The Wikimedia technical operations team plans to do some server work on 22 March. This could cause some problems, for example make it possible to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a short period of time. The date for this might change.

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Tech News: 2016-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The mobile web interface no longer suggests HiDPI thumbnails. This is to take up less bandwidth on slow or expensive connections.
  • The search engine on wikipedia.org has been updated.

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 22 March and 24 March. This could be postponed to April 18. You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. Because of a test, there will also be a couple of minutes where you can't edit the wikis on 15 March starting 07:00 UTC. You can read more about the server work. There will be more notifications and updates about this.
  • Administrators and other users with advanced permissions will need to have an 8-byte long passwords. This change takes place on 15 March. Users with too short passwords will be asked to change password the next time they log in. This was decided in a discussion on Meta and is because they can use tools that can hurt the wikis.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 March. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 March. It will be on all wikis from 17 March (calendar).
  • The buttons in interfaces will be simplified. Instead of white, red, green and blue buttons, in future there will only be white, red and blue ones.

Meetings

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Tech News: 2016-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. The Wikimedia Technology department planned to test it this week. This will take place the week of April 18 instead. You can read more about the server work. There will be more notifications and updates about this.
  • In Firefox, the visual editor would sometimes just jump down to the bottom of the page when you double-clicked on a table cell. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week

  • It will now be easier to list IP addresses that don't have to solve CAPTCHAs.
  • You will now be able to mark Echo notifications as unread.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • URLs in the recent changes IRC feed will no longer be rewritten to unencrypted HTTP. This could be a breaking change for bots dependent on the IRC feed. This will happen on May 2.

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Tech News: 2016-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Adding references with Citoid was broken for approximately 6 hours on 24 March. This was fixed.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 March. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 March. It will be on all wikis from 31 March (calendar).
  • You will be able to remove the header and footer style from User language (babel) boxes. This will make it easier to use them with other userboxes.

Meetings

Future changes

  • Commons will soon have improved access to Wikidata's data. It will then be possible to access data about any concept on any page on Commons. Assistance with testing this on the beta cluster is appreciated.
  • Wikibits.js will not be loaded by default anymore starting April 2016. Gadget and script authors should have already updated their code since the previous announcements, but there is another migration path available if needed. See wikitech-l for details.

Corrections

  • Last week Tech News said the new MediaWiki version would come to wikis from 21 March to 23 March. The right dates were 22 March to 24 March.

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"Women are everywhere"

Hi EllenCT. I'm an editor of the Italian Misplaced Pages. I'm trying to participate to an IEG with the project "Women are everywhere". You will find the draft at this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere It would be great if you could have a look at it. I need any kind of suggestion or advice to improve it. Support or endorsement would be fantastic. Many thanks,--Kenzia (talk) 12:23, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

@Kenzia: thank you so much for your kind invitation. Have you seen http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?pid=S0038-23532015000300001&script=sci_arttext ? EllenCT (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes EllenCT, i've just seen it, thank you for the information. Grazie,--Kenzia (talk) 07:38, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

@EllenCT: The article http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?pid=S0038-23532015000300001&script=sci_arttext is really interesting. "There can be no more excuses". So very true. We must all do something. That's the reason why I'm trying to collaborate with the project https://meta.wikimedia.org/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere I hope to have your support. Sincerely,--Kenzia (talk) 08:35, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you EllenCT for your support! Grazie. --Kenzia (talk) 12:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-14

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Recent changes

  • You can filter Special:Log in more detail.
  • Wikimedia wikis have a new way of counting visitors.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 5. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from April 6. It will be on all wikis from April 7 (calendar).

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22:13, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Chrysler

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FYI

Connecticut Fighting For Free And Fair Elections

Not sure why the 😐 😒 .. you need to stay non-partisan? wbm1058 (talk) 21:27, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

@Wbm1058: thank you for the informative update! What does, "One can only hope that the Signpost scoop that he will be the running mate of Donald Trump University is dead wrong" mean? I probably misunderstood you. EllenCT (talk) 16:35, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Just a little Before and After fun: "Before & After", a common category on the American game shows Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy!
You have heard about the Trump University controversy? A prime example of the issue with education being driven by the primary motivation of making money off the students.
So I definitely don't want to see Wales endorsing Trump, much less running on his ticket.
I have little faith that President Hillary would do much more to solve the issue than implement an Obamacare type of band-aid. wbm1058 (talk) 16:48, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, and Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2016-04-01/News and notes, in case you didn't see that. There's been some controversy around that, too. An un-funny joke disparaging a living person. I have mixed feelings about the man, but this meme about his "small hands" should be put to bed. wbm1058 (talk) 16:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-15

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Recent changes

  • The visual editor can generate wikicode with image options in your language. Examples of image options are "thumb" or "left". You can ask to change to options in your language in Phabricator.
  • Wiktionaries and Wikisources can now use the visual editor. It is an opt-in beta feature. It still needs development to work better with these projects.
  • ORES is using new models. Tools that use ORES' predictions can behave strangely. ORES also has a new API.
  • The visual editor now supports classical Greek characters.

Problems

  • There was a bug when you used keyboard arrows in templates in the visual editor. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 April. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 April. It will be on all wikis from 14 April (calendar).
  • The wikipedia.org portal will get many small bug fixes and improvements. Most will be for the search box and suggested results that were added in March.

Meetings

Future changes

  • Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes.

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20:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 April 2016

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Tech News: 2016-16

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Recent changes

  • You can filter Special:Log in more detail. You can filter different imports and new users.
  • You can use Telnet to read Wikimedia wikis.
  • MediaWiki wikis can handle bigger file uploads. The new limit is 4 GB.

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes.
  • There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data center test.

Meetings

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20:40, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 8

Newsletter • March / April 2016

This month:

Transclude article requests anywhere on Misplaced Pages

In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Misplaced Pages Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Misplaced Pages. I am pleased to announce Misplaced Pages Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.

Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)

With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Misplaced Pages Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=, category=, or wikiproject=, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Misplaced Pages Requests|category=Living people}}. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!

Help us build our list!

The value of Misplaced Pages Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Misplaced Pages Requests. We need your help building this list.

If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.

An open database means new tools

WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.

And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Misplaced Pages, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.

Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!

On the horizon
  • The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
  • The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Misplaced Pages Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.


Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Biodynamic agriculture

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The Signpost: 24 April 2016

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Tech News: 2016-17

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Problems

  • Wikimedia tested a new data center last week. This meant that the wikis could be read but not edited for 45 minutes on April 19 and for 20 minutes on April 21.
  • When the data center was tested, new edits were not shown in the recent changes log for 20 minutes. They are in the logs now. You can read more about how to find the edits.
  • Unread notifications were sometimes counted incorrectly. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia Commons will have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Commons. This will happen on April 26.
  • It will be easier to choose if you want to watch files you have uploaded with the upload wizard.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 26. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from April 27. It will be on all wikis from April 28 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 26 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The "Save page" button when you edit will be called "Publish" instead. This is to help new editors understand what it does. It already works like this on some wikis.

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21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Monowheel tractor

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Tech News: 2016-18

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Recent changes

  • The visual editor now works when you use Internet Explorer 9.

Problems

  • There was a security problem with the MobileFrontend extension. It showed information that had been oversighted. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week

  • You can now see which notifications are available on a wiki on Special:DisplayNotificationsConfiguration.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 3. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from May 4. It will be on all wikis from May 5 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Pages could be added to new users' watchlists by default when they edit them. New users could also by default get email notifications when pages they watch are edited. This is discussed on Meta.

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20:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Hilton Worldwide

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Tech News: 2016-19

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Recent changes

  • Wikiversities now have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Wikiversity. This happened on May 3.
  • You can use Misplaced Pages GapFinder to find missing articles between languages.
  • Users are invited to try Cross-wiki Notifications on all wikis. This is the last test session before the release by default, scheduled for May 12th at 23:00 UTC.
  • You can use keyboard shortcuts to open the visual editor (meta+V) or the wikitext editor (meta+E) (on certain wikis, even if you have chosen a favorite editor).
  • Uploading files bigger than 100 megabytes on Wikimedia Commons required to opt-in in your preferences. This is not necessary anymore.
  • The UploadsLink extension is now available on Wikimedia Commons.
  • Deleting a translation unit page didn't remove the corresponding content from the translation page. This is now solved.
  • Translation suggestions based on Apertium are now available on Mediawiki.org.

Problems

  • MediaWiki 1.27.0-wmf.23 has been rolled back from Wikimedia wikis, due to a performance issue.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 10. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from May 11. It will be on all wikis from May 12 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Today, in categories, a page titled "11" comes before "2". We plan to reorder that: "2" will come before "11". Please tell the developers if the change will cause problems.

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23:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Underreported stories

I missed your reply (14:16, 8 May 2016) to my post (18:19, 6 May 2016) until after the discussion was archived at 02:54, 10 May 2016, to User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 207#Underreported stories, and I found it when I was searching on that page for something else. My reply to your reply is: I do not know what their criteria are.
—Wavelength (talk) 03:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Notice of report to administrators noticeboard

I am required to notify you that you will be named in a complaint to the administrators' notice board.Phmoreno (talk) 12:30, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Why do you believe you will not again be subject to WP:BOOMERANG? EllenCT (talk) 12:46, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:European Graduate School

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Tech News: 2016-20

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Recent changes

  • Some image thumbnails now load faster on mobile. They also take up less bandwidth.

Problems

  • Last week's MediaWiki version was late on some wikis.

Changes this week

  • Special:Notifications will have "mark as read" buttons for each day. The non-JavaScript version will get it this week. A JavaScript version will come later.
  • Wikis can now locally decide what wikitext they want the signature button to produce.
  • A one-time welcome message for users will now be shown in the wikitext editor. This will include existing users.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 17. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from May 18. It will be on all wikis from May 19 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Using self-closing tags like <div/> and <span/> to mean <div></div> and <span></span> will not work in the future. Templates and pages that use these tags should be fixed. When Phabricator ticket T134423 is fixed these tags will parse as <div> and <span> instead. This is normal in HTML5.

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16:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 May 2016

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Diacritics in article titles: mass creation of redirects from unadorned ASCII?

Howdy. Unfortunately our conversation on Jimmy's talk page was archived, so I'll write any interesting thoughts I have here. I was thinking, shouldn't all names with a diacritical equivalent have diacritics in the title? Working out the English transliteration is going to be much easier than working out which diacritics are used when. Rovingrobert (talk) 07:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, C : t i t l e → C : u r l {\displaystyle C:title\rightarrow C:url} . Ref.: Misplaced Pages:Bot requests#Diacritics in article titles: mass creation of redirects from unadorned ASCII?. EllenCT (talk) 21:46, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't feel like I understand WP:TSC well enough to be able to rebut irate Wikipedians sternly enough. See this requested move as a recent example. Rovingrobert (talk) 08:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
I have recently been involved in unintentional canvassing. As a duty of care, I must inform you that the purpose of my posting the above link was not to votestack, merely to illustrate how much current opinion is stacked against the use of diacritics. Rovingrobert (talk) 07:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
@Rovingrobert: how do you propose to keep from accidentally including offensive terms in automatically generated redirects? I am afraid that problem makes the idea of a bot for WP:TSC unlikely to be successful. EllenCT (talk) 20:11, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

@Rich Farmbrough: would you rather figure out the impolite corner cases or do awesome work to improve the encyclopedia? EllenCT (talk) 22:24, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

The diacritics work is fairly trivial to do, but quite useful, I don't see as a corner case. I do not have a Pinterest account - I don't know what (pin-)point you are making here. I would use Octave to create a graph, or write an SVG directly. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:19, 18 May 2016 (UTC).
@Rich Farmbrough: how do you propose to keep from accidentally including offensive terms in automatically generated redirects? Forget Pinterest. What is your interest level in making a WP:MOSTEDITED-style list of the lowest quality popular articles for the WP:BACKLOG? EllenCT (talk) 20:11, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Do you mean names such as Bum-suk? I don't think these redirects are a problem, however offensive. They are redirects. We have explicit rules allowing offensive redirects if they are useful. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:50, 21 May 2016 (UTC).
@Rich Farmbrough: which rules allow that? I'd be afraid someone's name without diacritics could be the name of an animal. Here's what I have so far: Misplaced Pages:Bot requests#Python help please? EllenCT (talk) 09:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
It's not a diacritics redirect but a transliteration choice in that case. But the same principles apply.

if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms

— WPRFD
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:00, 22 May 2016 (UTC).
@Rich Farmbrough: fair enough and fine with me, but what do you need to ask permission to do this? WP:BAG and an Arbcom remedy amendment, in that order? Don't forget to fill them out in triplicate. EllenCT (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:29, 23 May 2016 (UTC).

Tech News: 2016-21

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Recent changes

  • You now see a warning message on pages that try to use {{DISPLAYTITLE}} but it doesn't work because it doesn't match the page's actual title.

Problems

  • Commons had problems with server lag. This meant that it took longer time for files to turn up in categories.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 May. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 May. It will be on all wikis from 26 May (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on May 24 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • All HTTP access to Wikimedia sites and APIs will stop working. Some bots still use HTTP. They will need to use HTTPS instead. This will happen on June 12.

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18:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Anarchism sidebar

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Administrators' noticeboard

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phmoreno (talk • contribs)

I deny the allegations and have asked for a restriction on Phmoreno's editing. EllenCT (talk) 22:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 May 2016

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Tech News: 2016-22

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Recent changes

  • There is now a standard way to get the target of a redirect page from a Lua module.

Problems

  • A new way to handle rollback was introduced. It broke some tools and scripts and was reverted. This will be re-planned after review.
  • CentralNotice didn't work in some older browsers. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week

  • When you edit a file or category page with the visual editor the rest of the page will be shown in its normal place.
  • The Translate extension will get an edit summary field.
  • A change to the <charinsert> feature could break some user scripts. Contact Bawolff if the "click to insert special characters" links in the edit window break on your wiki.
  • Elasticsearch will be upgraded on Wikimedia wikis this week. This should not affect you, but if you have problems with the search function this is probably the reason.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 May. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 June. It will be on all wikis from 2 June (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:19, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Emma Watson

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Some unsolicited advise

Dear Ellen, I believe you know my political views. As an academic, one of my main topics of interest is economic inequality, and I am a firm believer in a universal basic income. I am probably one of a small minority who would support a very high tax on unearned income, a 100% inheritance tax, and a 100% tax on income derived from land. Even though I share your political leanings, I feel that your aggressiveness on Misplaced Pages is actually detrimental the cause of making sure that Misplaced Pages is not distorted by the systemic bias that comes from the fact that people who edit Misplaced Pages are predominately white, male, libertarian, technology users. The work of making sure that Misplaced Pages presents facts, and and not right-wing bigotry, requires cooperation from a broad coalition of people who want the encyclopedia to reflect scientific facts (which have a well-known liberal bias {smirk}). This work would be easier if we relax a bit, assume good faith from other editors, and try to work towards consensus among people interested in a topic, and work hard towards honestly backing our edits with reliable sources. I feel that your recent interaction with Volunteer Marek was not helping things. Marek is a good guy and a good editor, it's not helpful to turn likely allies into enemies (something Donald Trump can't seem to learn, so hopefully he will lose in a landslide this November {smirk again}). If you would be a little less sure that you know the truth, and be a little bit more willing to listen and compromise, I think you'll contribute a lot more to this encyclopedia. regards, LK (talk) 02:22, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

@Lawrencekhoo: what is your opinion of User:Wnt's comments on Talk:Economic growth? I have not edited that article this year, but I think Wnt had some very good advice. He pointed out what Marek had deleted, agrees with our policies that actual literature reviews are more reliable than review sections of primary research papers, and provided some very specific advice that I intend to follow. I am also interested in your opinion of James K. Galbraith's assertion that,
“ when attempting to make major changes the right strategy is to proceed and to take up the challenge of obstacles or changing circumstances as they arise. That is, after all, what Roosevelt did in the New Deal and what Lyndon Johnson did in the 1960s. Neither one could have proceeded if today’s economists had been around at that time. ”
Do you believe that economists generally underestimate the long term trends modulating demand from consumer spending and net worth? Our articles are salted with supply side trickle down nonsense; tax incidence for example. What do you propose to address the systemic bias to which you refer? EllenCT (talk) 04:51, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm happy to see that you are taking my comments in the spirit they were given in. As for your questions, I think Wnt is editing in good faith, and that what he's saying makes sense. However, it's also pretty obvious that he's not familiar with the literature. But such is the way of wikipedia. It's up to Marek to bring sources to back his statements to convince Wnt. Marek's dismissiveness reflects, to some extent, the fact that he knows the economics literature, and needs to convince people who do not, that what he's saying is right. I'm going to have a talk with Marek, as he needs to be more patient. I think that he's been contributing to the tension lately, and he could stand to be more civil. About the Galbraith quote, some strategies that may work in government, are not necessarily the best strategies to pursue in a collegial environment. Bulldozing things through doesn't really work in Misplaced Pages. At the end of the day, stuff only sticks if we have managed to convince the other editors that it accurately reflects the literature. LK (talk) 10:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
@Lawrencekhoo: do you think I should ask about Marek's sources on WP:RSN before or after taking Wnt's advice to restore the material deleted at ? EllenCT (talk) 22:36, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
In a contentious situation, Misplaced Pages policy and best practice is to refrain from inserting material until there is consensus for inclusion. Whenever things are contentious, as in this case, I would ask on the notice board first. If consensus cannot be reached, even after response from the notice board, then hold a RFC on the issue. LK (talk) 00:27, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
@Lawrencekhoo: my experience observing the RSN is that there aren't enough people responding to keep my WP:TAGTEAM from getting there first with the usual vapid series of pro forma rationales without details and with no responses to requests for details. User:Wnt has already surmised the situation in the way I believe any sufficient number of generally unbiased Wikipedians familiar with the reliable source criteria would. How about if I replace the deleted material first, and then ask at WT:NPOV whether the question on the use of review sections of primary research opposed to the consensus of fully WP:SECONDARY literature reviews reaching a conclusion, which I know is still the situation on the underlying topic, is most appropriate for mention in WP:UNDUE and/or WP:SYSTEMICBIAS, or on the reliable sources noticeboard, or an RFC? EllenCT (talk) 01:41, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
In some respects, Misplaced Pages is a democracy of those who are present. However, in this case, I feel that you may not be getting the response you would like from the noticeboard, perhaps because the members don't see things the way you do, or they believe that the situation is muddied and hard to comment on. If you are sure that a group of impartial reasonable people would support you, and that WP:Local consensus does not reflect the views of the community as a whole, then the best thing is to call a RfC, and advertise it on the Economics project talk page. If you do not think that a group of impartial reasonable people would support you, then it's best to drop the issue. Over the years, I've come to appreciate the Misplaced Pages system. More often than not, with our insistence on procedure and on sources, a group of impartial strangers will correctly agree about what reflects the scientific literature. LK (talk) 03:35, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
@EllenCT: I think there's a bit of difference between your emphasis and mine, in that I don't actually object to using literature reviews in primary sources; I simply object to removing sources that are relevant. I feel like Marek lobbies hard for his particular point of view, and you do try to see yours represented also, and that wouldn't have to be a bad thing, if everyone sticks to adding more and more sources and viewpoints. To my way of thinking, POV only becomes a problem when people start deleting stuff, and my impression during the short time I looked at the article is that Marek does that more than you. So I think that the most productive thing to get together for your RFC is a list of all the sources that you think are good that have been taken out/reverted at some point in the development of the article. I want all those, plus whatever text it takes to wind a garden path among them. But do note I wouldn't deny Marek the same thing; what I want is a big article studded with facts that lies out multiple disagreeing points of view and explains each one well enough that we know why people say it is right and why they say it is wrong. Wnt (talk) 03:55, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
@Lawrencekhoo: impartial reasonable people support me, and I am sure I could get my opposition to agree with me if they would engage.
@Wnt: I agree, simply replacing the deleted material is the best idea, but I feel like I should do something else first. EllenCT (talk) 05:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages talk:Neutral point of view#Undue use of primary source literature review sections to delete material in Economic growth. EllenCT (talk) 05:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2016-23

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  • MathML/SVG is now the default <math> rendering mode on Wikimedia projects.

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  • The history page can tell you if a page on your watchlist was updated since you last visited it. This now works the same way in Vector as in other skins. The change broke local designs on some wikis. This will be fixed this week.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 June. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 June. It will be on all wikis from 9 June (calendar).

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20:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:John Stuart Mill

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:John Stuart Mill. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-24

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  • Wikimedia wikis now use AuthManager. If you have new problems related to logging in or being logged in, report them.
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  • You can filter user contributions to hide minor edits.
  • It will be easier to edit galleries with the visual editor.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 June. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 June. It will be on all wikis from 16 June (calendar).

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18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 June 2016

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Please comment on Talk:Hunter Valley wine

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You are involved in an incident on the Administrators notice board

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding Disruptive edits. The discussion is about the topic Economic stagnation. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phmoreno (talk • contribs)

Tech News: 2016-25

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  • Notifications were not always marked as read when you followed a link from an email notification. This will now happen.

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  • The list of other languages an article is available in will be shorter on small Wikipedias and non-Misplaced Pages projects. This is to make it easier to find the most relevant languages for each user. You will still be able to see the other languages.
  • Alerts (the red badge) will not be automatically marked as read when you open the Notifications popup.
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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 June. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 June. It will be on all wikis from 23 June (calendar).

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19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Other user's talkpages.

Read WP:Blanking and the accompanying essay WP:DRC. Only in death does duty end (talk) 12:04, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

This is regarding , a warning about . EllenCT (talk) 12:35, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

John placed the warning which was subsequently seen and removed by Phmoreno as is his right on his talkpage. You then reverted the warning back onto their talkpage - you were obviously able to see it had been removed and the revision history is clear. There are limited items which have to remain on a user's talkpage. Warnings are not one of them per the above links. Only in death does duty end (talk) 12:46, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
I would feel more comfortable if the warning remained, but I am more interested in improving the encyclopedia than arguing for badges of shame. EllenCT (talk) 12:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Community Sanction

I have closed the ANI thread about you with the following result: EllenCT (talk · contribs) is indefinitely topic banned from all edits and pages related to Economics, broadly construed. Formal logging of this restriction can be found here. More information can be found at Misplaced Pages:Banning policy. The Wordsmith 16:11, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I intend to appeal this decision after the close of the two RFCs, in order to apply for mediation if necessary. EllenCT (talk) 16:46, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
That is, of course, your right. Also note that I'm considering amending the restriction, specifically removing "pages", because it might be too restrictive with unintended consequences. I'm examining precedent and considering a new wording, and will let you know if I alter it. The Wordsmith 17:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Note that I have rephrased the restriction as follows: EllenCT (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from the topic of economics, broadly construed. The Wordsmith 17:33, 23 June 2016 (UTC)