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| I'm recently registered but have been making changes to selected articles for well over a year now. I was afraid registering would mean I'd spend a lot more time than I want working on all sorts of articles... and it has, oops, but I got sick of seeing IP numbers up there when I made changes. | |||
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| ==About DreamGuy== | |||
| I'm mostly here to improve articles on ] and ], as a lot of posters got their information from extremely bad sources. Unfortunately both fields are full of books by people with little to no actual knowledge on the topics and just regurgitating things they read in earlier poor references, so a lot of people read these things and end up knowing less than they did before they started. | |||
| Usually what I end up doing is undoing really bad edits by other people: spam, hoaxes, trying to put their own opinion into an article as if anyone else cares, horribly pointless trivia and so forth. | |||
| I also have a lot of other articles I'll look at here and there as they come up. | |||
| The good thing about Misplaced Pages is anyone who spots something wrong can change it. The bad thing about Misplaced Pages is all the people who want things to be wrong (either from bias or cluelessness) can easily do damage that takes multiple good editors five or more times the effort to undo as it took the bad editor to do in the first place. | |||
| About me? Eclectic scholar, published author, and all around nice guy, but I won't list details as Wiki guidelines discourage self-promotion. | |||
| ==The eternal struggle== | |||
| Update May 3, 2005: As a result of consistently poor decisions by admins I've dealt with, general disgustedness with attempting to try to keep articles unbiased in spite of the unceasing assault of editors who are clearly only here to advance an agenda of some sort, and pretty much the universal lack of recognition for all the time and effort I put in trying to make Misplaced Pages a better encyclopedia, I just removed several hundred items from my watch list. I'll probably take most of the rest of them off later. I can't go cold turkey, but maybe gradually I can do something actually worthwhile. There just seems no point to even trying to deal with things they way this place is set up. I'd be much better off devoting my time to projects where the gradeschool kids, raving nutjobs and followers of fringe belief systems can't just rewrite everything at a moment's notice and then paint you as the bad guy for trying to enforce even just a minimal level of standards. | |||
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| ''The Misplaced Pages philosophy can be summed up thusly: "Experts are scum." For some reason people who spend 40 years learning everything they can about, say, the Peloponnesian War -- and indeed, advancing the body of human knowledge -- get all pissy when their contributions are edited away by Randy in Boise who heard somewhere that sword-wielding skeletons were involved. And they get downright irate when asked politely to engage in discourse with Randy until the sword-skeleton theory can be incorporated into the article without passing judgment.'' | |||
| ::::'''—], from ''' | |||
| ==Response from Evmore== | |||
| <small>'''Fun trivia: After I added this section and graphic they have been reused on a number of talk pages and even expanded into the essay ]. It even led to someone ] after someone who was not paying attention thought that the reference to "Randy in Boise" was ] someone else's secret, real-world identity.</small> | |||
| Hi thanks for the questions concerning the pictures. I've never had a question so I hope it is alright for me to edit your page like this. Concerning the pictures: | |||
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| *The cover page of Varney the Vampire is indeed a reprint edition, but it is by no means a modern publication, it is from a 1853 reprint. (It was first published in 1845.) Check for information about it and other images. | |||
| *As for the images by Wang Wei, he as a website and an e-mail address, blizzard@wangwei-art.com, I asked him if I could post them on Misplaced Pages and he said yes. I have a copy of the e-mail with his authorization. Even without it, it would still be considered fair use. Do not remove my images again unless you are an administrator. | |||
| *As for the vampire killing kit picture, it is by someone releasing it into public domain. I don't know if I used the right tag or not but that is what it is. | |||
| ''(unsigned but by ])'' | |||
| ==Useful things== | |||
| :I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand what I explained to you. | |||
| :*I am perfectly aware that Varney the Vampire was first published in 1845. The image you have has text at the bottom that was not in the original or the 1853 reprint. It comes from a modern reprint of the old book. See the "Arno PRess" on the bottom? The Arno Press version was made in 1970. The Arno PRess line is copyright in 1970. You can't have that here. | |||
| :*I'm sorry, but you don't understand what fair use means, and you also seem to completely misunderstand Misplaced Pages. I can remove your images from articles if they are inappropriate, just like any other editor here can choose to do. Being an administrator has nothig to do with it. As far as removing the images themselves, unless you take care of these issues I will mark them as violating copyrights, unknonw permission, etc. so that others can remove them unless you can show that they can be here. | |||
| :*"Someone releasing it into the public domain"...? I already saw that you wrote that, but i do not know where you came up with that idea. You need to be more specific. Who released it? Fif they take the photo? Who owns the kit in question and does that have a copyright on it? Did the rights owner(s) sign a license stating that it is in the public domain? These things are necessary. | |||
| ===Unlinking=== | |||
| :I am putting this on your talk page too. ] 23:53, July 24, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| For seeing just how many pages a spammer got to, or how many pages use a ridiculously bad site as a source for information: | |||
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| Thanks, for the past on your page it helps with the chat. You may be right a few things and me not understanding Misplaced Pages is one of them...but I am learning quickly. | |||
| *Even if I am wrong about the Arno Press version you know very well that the limited use of book covers is considered fair use in an encyclopedia such as this, "It is believed that book covers may be exhibited on Misplaced Pages under the fair use provision of United States copyright law." I changed the tag to <nowiki>{{Bookcover}}</nowiki> just to be certain. I '''''can''''' have it there. You can mark them as you wish but in the end you will lose and the cover will stay. | |||
| Sites that probably need to be removed as references and external links in most cases: | |||
| *Do you have a problem with Wang Wei images or not? | |||
| *As for as how Misplaced Pages works, I know I don't have to answer up to every person wondering if the tag is right, but I'll find the page where the guys says it is for public domain, till then I'll change it to fair use. | |||
| *.aveleyman.com | |||
| --] 00:24, 25 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *.bestthinking.com | |||
| *.filmreference.com | |||
| *.findagrave.com (it's annoying how many people put this in) | |||
| *.wisegeek.com | |||
| *.paintinghere.com | |||
| (I'm sure there are tons I just don't remember right now. I'll add more later. I'll eventually make this a running log so that I go back and check links I previously removed to see if they found their way back again.) | |||
| See also ] | |||
| ===User warnings=== | |||
| Full list: | |||
| ''']''' | |||
| ===Templates for article improvement=== | |||
| ''']''' | |||
| And when there's a bunch on the same article: | |||
| ''']''' | |||
| <!-- still working on this, hiding for now: | |||
| ===Lost causes=== | |||
| Things I used to try to work on improving but which proved impractical to really accomplish but which I'll list here to see if I ever feel like banging my head against a wall again: | |||
| *Making sure Misplaced Pages articles accurately differentiate between ]s, ]ers and ]s when they are mentioned. Articles on specific mass shootings frequently use the terms interchangeably. I would frequently go through and fix multiple articles, only to have somebody come back and mass revert everything. ] was the worst offender of the lot. Someone finally renamed that to ] to avoid some of the problem, but it is still littered with errors and questionable sources and ]. | |||
| *I used to edit ], but unfortunately a gang of people I had reverted in the past decided to tag team so that any edit I made, even such minor things as to correct the spelling on authors' names, was blind reverted nearly instantly. These same people had regularly made group accusations on WP:ANI against me, filed false sockpuppet reports, etc. If I made an opinion known about something this group would from then on oppose whatever that was, no matter it was. For a while if I found something outrageously wrong I would hand it off to someone else to go change it so they wouldn't know I was the one who spotted it, but I eventually gave up even looking at the article because it was too frustrating. | |||
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About DreamGuy
Usually what I end up doing is undoing really bad edits by other people: spam, hoaxes, trying to put their own opinion into an article as if anyone else cares, horribly pointless trivia and so forth.
The good thing about Misplaced Pages is anyone who spots something wrong can change it. The bad thing about Misplaced Pages is all the people who want things to be wrong (either from bias or cluelessness) can easily do damage that takes multiple good editors five or more times the effort to undo as it took the bad editor to do in the first place.
The eternal struggle
The Misplaced Pages philosophy can be summed up thusly: "Experts are scum." For some reason people who spend 40 years learning everything they can about, say, the Peloponnesian War -- and indeed, advancing the body of human knowledge -- get all pissy when their contributions are edited away by Randy in Boise who heard somewhere that sword-wielding skeletons were involved. And they get downright irate when asked politely to engage in discourse with Randy until the sword-skeleton theory can be incorporated into the article without passing judgment.
Fun trivia: After I added this section and graphic they have been reused on a number of talk pages and even expanded into the essay Misplaced Pages:Randy in Boise. It even led to someone getting in trouble after someone who was not paying attention thought that the reference to "Randy in Boise" was outing someone else's secret, real-world identity.
Useful things
Unlinking
For seeing just how many pages a spammer got to, or how many pages use a ridiculously bad site as a source for information:
Sites that probably need to be removed as references and external links in most cases:
- .aveleyman.com
- .bestthinking.com
- .filmreference.com
- .findagrave.com (it's annoying how many people put this in)
- .wisegeek.com
- .paintinghere.com
(I'm sure there are tons I just don't remember right now. I'll add more later. I'll eventually make this a running log so that I go back and check links I previously removed to see if they found their way back again.)
See also Misplaced Pages:External links/Perennial websites
User warnings
Full list:
Templates for article improvement
Misplaced Pages:Template messages/Cleanup
And when there's a bunch on the same article: