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::Yeah, ok. Limited sources is still a thing, though. What happened to the importance in writing more detailed biographies? 2 sentences, that's it? You guys could do better than that if you really intend to keep the article. --] (]) 16:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC) | ::Yeah, ok. Limited sources is still a thing, though. What happened to the importance in writing more detailed biographies? 2 sentences, that's it? You guys could do better than that if you really intend to keep the article. --] (]) 16:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC) | ||
:::AFD is not cleanup. Articles are kept based on the notability of the subject, not based on the quality of the current article. It's true that the article could be improved by adding more sources. Please go ahead and add them rather than trying to make everyone else do the work. ] (]) 16:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC) | :::AFD is not cleanup. Articles are kept based on the notability of the subject, not based on the quality of the current article. It's true that the article could be improved by adding more sources. Please go ahead and add them rather than trying to make everyone else do the work. ] (]) 16:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC) | ||
::::You need strong, reliable sources to assert the subject's notability; what part of that do you not understand? The quality of the article DOES matter; how else would I know whether or not the subject is actually notable? Also, I'll have you know, different Wikipedians specialize in different areas. Did I offend you for not specializing in the field of expansion? Well, did I? I'd like to think that I specialize in nominating articles for deletion, and forming arguments to state my case. When I nominate an article for deletion, it is YOUR burden of proof to assert the subject's notability, not mine. Do understand that I don't have that responsibility. As the nominator, my duty is to see that the article eventually gets deleted, though I don't think Wataru's article is going to be erased due to some of the alleged references you people claim to have. So far, Angus has added the Seiyu Awards citation. I'd really like to see more, so that I may be inclinded to withdraw this AFD. --] (]) 17:23, 27 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Wataru Hatano
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Either that alleged Seiyu Award be sourced, or face deletion. Weak news coverage, and the references listed do not talk about Wataru Hatano as the main subject. Definitely non-notable. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 05:32, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Seiyu Awards is a major award for voice actors in Japan, and it is now sourced. ANN shows 74 news articles about Hatano, which suggests more than just plain cast announcements in terms of notable roles in notable productions. VADB shows 314 roles. . In Fairy Tail he voices Gajeel Redfox, a major character in the series. He is also the main character in Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu, Josuke Higashikata in some of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure games, and Rufus in Street Fighter. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- 74 news articles from ANN? Suuuuuure. How about you find a way to reference at least half of those articles in a more detailed biography? If you could manage that, I'll withdraw this AFD. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 15:08, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per AngusWOOF. Passes WP:ANYBIO for having received a significant award, and passes WP:ENTERTAINER for having significant roles in multiple notable works. Calathan (talk) 15:23, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, ok. Limited sources is still a thing, though. What happened to the importance in writing more detailed biographies? 2 sentences, that's it? You guys could do better than that if you really intend to keep the article. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 16:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- AFD is not cleanup. Articles are kept based on the notability of the subject, not based on the quality of the current article. It's true that the article could be improved by adding more sources. Please go ahead and add them rather than trying to make everyone else do the work. Calathan (talk) 16:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- You need strong, reliable sources to assert the subject's notability; what part of that do you not understand? The quality of the article DOES matter; how else would I know whether or not the subject is actually notable? Also, I'll have you know, different Wikipedians specialize in different areas. Did I offend you for not specializing in the field of expansion? Well, did I? I'd like to think that I specialize in nominating articles for deletion, and forming arguments to state my case. When I nominate an article for deletion, it is YOUR burden of proof to assert the subject's notability, not mine. Do understand that I don't have that responsibility. As the nominator, my duty is to see that the article eventually gets deleted, though I don't think Wataru's article is going to be erased due to some of the alleged references you people claim to have. So far, Angus has added the Seiyu Awards citation. I'd really like to see more, so that I may be inclinded to withdraw this AFD. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- AFD is not cleanup. Articles are kept based on the notability of the subject, not based on the quality of the current article. It's true that the article could be improved by adding more sources. Please go ahead and add them rather than trying to make everyone else do the work. Calathan (talk) 16:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, ok. Limited sources is still a thing, though. What happened to the importance in writing more detailed biographies? 2 sentences, that's it? You guys could do better than that if you really intend to keep the article. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 16:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:15, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:15, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- I appreciate your identifying stub articles with unsourced filmographies. We really do need more effort on finding which of these are worth keeping around and which ones don't have much potential for anything. I'm trying to retain ones that should meet WP:ENT and could use a decent writeup, and ones where the actors have won a top award for their field would be worth digging into. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:03, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:03, 27 September 2016 (UTC)