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I am striking the above message because you have given me a reasonable explanation for your position. Although I do not agree with your deletion, as I shall explain, I can see that there is a basis for disagreement which perhaps needs to be settled by some consensus.
As the template at the top of the page notes, there is controversy over what should be included as "genocide." Clearly the Holodomor was a case of extraordinary mass murder. I suppose it could be questioned whether it was "genocide", aimed at a specific ethnic group, religion or nationality because of their identity or "just" mass murder of large segment of a population.
It seems to me that this article is structured to include a broad range of mass murders since the template refers to "the legal definition in significant scholarship." The UN Convention certainly meets this criteria but it does not appear to be the sole criteria for inclusion in this list.
I would suggest not deleting the material, since there are supporting sources but adding a footnote about whether it was technically genocide and whether it should be omitted from the list for that reason. Of course, it would be best to support this with a specific explanation and a reliable, verifiable, neutral source or sources. I am not sure that your reason is this narrow but one could not expect the UN to speak on the particular occurrence because no resolution would be likely to pass. Certainly historians and others have addressed the details of the matter at length.
If you wish to include other incidents that meet the standard and are supported by such sources, this interpretation of the type of occurrences that can be in the article should cover those. I have not reviewed other changes or proposed changes because I have been reviewing new changes in the order in which they are made, not entire articles. This is a common practice and almost never will raise a question or issue.
You are no doubt familiar with the pertinent Misplaced Pages guideline pages. Perhaps overlooking whether the application of the word genocide to the Holodomor and whether there is any scholarship supporting that is the decisive point, I will note my basis in Misplaced Pages guidelines. In particular Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view states that articles should be "representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic" and, for more detail, especially Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view#Due and undue weight.
I would defer to the opinion of a task force or several users who have worked on the article or topic if there is a consensus that I am wrong about this. Donner60 (talk) 05:36, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

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