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	:I could not agree more. I tried, many moons ago, to curtail the sprawling lead, but I was unsuccessful (to be fair, my efforts were not great). Anyway, perhaps now that the heat seems to have died down a bit, maybe it's time to try again. Thanks. ] (]) 14:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)		:I could not agree more. I tried, many moons ago, to curtail the sprawling lead, but I was unsuccessful (to be fair, my efforts were not great). Anyway, perhaps now that the heat seems to have died down a bit, maybe it's time to try again. Thanks. ] (]) 14:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
	:: How about: "The Gamergate controversy concerns issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture, stemming from a harassment campaign. Supporters of the Gamergate movement targeted several women in the video game industry. Gamergate has often been defined by the harassment its supporters have committed. Gamergate is often viewed as a right-wing backlash against progressivism. Industry responses to Gamergate have been predominantly negative. Gamergate has led figures both inside and outside the industry to focus on better methods of tackling online harassment." ] (]) 17:19, 8 April 2017 (UTC)		:: How about: "The Gamergate controversy concerns issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture, stemming from a harassment campaign. Supporters of the Gamergate movement targeted several women in the video game industry. Gamergate has often been defined by the harassment its supporters have committed. Gamergate is often viewed as a right-wing backlash against progressivism. Industry responses to Gamergate have been predominantly negative. Gamergate has led figures both inside and outside the industry to focus on better methods of tackling online harassment." ] (]) 17:19, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
			:::I, for one, approve. We could also go with "For sale: Journalistic Ethics manual. Never opened."

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'Reliability issues'

Hi 'GamerPro64', you removed every mention of The Daily Dot from the article. What are the 'reliability issues' that you use to justify such removal? PeterTheFourth (talk) 08:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

I just thought I'd pop in to note that this particular site has been bandied about at the Reliable Sources noticeboard a few times, most notably to me here: and here, regarding Anita Sarkeesian: . Both times the outcome was that the site is basically reliable, though a case-by-case analysis is never a bad thing. Nevertheless, I don't see any reason why it should be proscribed. As such I'd say the references should be restored and challenged individually. Other than that, happy Friday! Dumuzid (talk) 12:51, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

There's currently a discussion going on about Jamie Kilstein about why he left his radio show. I added a Daily Dot article which got reverted. There's a discussion going on now Misplaced Pages:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Jamie_Kilstein about it but basically this article was the only place I knew that was using the website so in case it was determined the site was unreliable I decided to remove the sources. Then again there are multiple sources being used for the same information which comes off as excessive. GamerPro64 14:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

I would respectfully suggest the best practice here is to either wait until there's an unambiguous outcome, or suggest the removals one-by-one. I understand the motivation, but I think "just in case" removals are a bit too far. Thanks. Dumuzid (talk) 16:35, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

I've reverted the removals. I advise that you wait for an outcome before taking action based on that outcome. PeterTheFourth (talk) 23:32, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Talk:List of scandals with "-gate" suffix

This article has a content summary at List of scandals with "-gate" suffix. As has happened previously, the summary within that article has become contested. You are welcome to discuss (reaffirm prior consensus in my view) at Talk:List of scandals with "-gate" suffix. UW Dawgs (talk) 20:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Must be spring break. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:12, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Lead is too long

Per WP:LEADLENGTH, the lead should be at most 4 reasonably sized paragraphs. LK (talk) 14:18, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

I could not agree more. I tried, many moons ago, to curtail the sprawling lead, but I was unsuccessful (to be fair, my efforts were not great). Anyway, perhaps now that the heat seems to have died down a bit, maybe it's time to try again. Thanks. Dumuzid (talk) 14:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

How about: "The Gamergate controversy concerns issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture, stemming from a harassment campaign. Supporters of the Gamergate movement targeted several women in the video game industry. Gamergate has often been defined by the harassment its supporters have committed. Gamergate is often viewed as a right-wing backlash against progressivism. Industry responses to Gamergate have been predominantly negative. Gamergate has led figures both inside and outside the industry to focus on better methods of tackling online harassment." ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

I, for one, approve. We could also go with "For sale: Journalistic Ethics manual. Never opened."

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