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	Thank you so much to those policing in the community who have made me a better contributor down the road. I do believe this is a necessary lesson.		Thank you so much to those policing in the community who have made me a better contributor down the road. I do believe this is a necessary lesson.

			:As I am the original blocking admin on this particular account, I have now lifted your block under these terms. You are free to request removal of the restriction around directly editing anything to do with Bliss Media, broadly construed, in six months (i.e. in December, 2017) and any admin may lift these editing restrictions without consulting me, so long as they have verified you've made no edits to any such articles, broadly construed. You are free to suggest edits at any time, on these articles' talk pages, but must otherwise stay away from that topic area. You are under no restriction from articles completely unrelated to Bliss Media. I do not wish to trap you here. You need to stay away from ], just to use one example, as that is part of your editing restriction. That's a topic related to Bliss Media. You already know this; your previous edits were specifically to discuss the relation with Bliss Media projects, there. --] (]) 11:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

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Superman Returns

We'll need sources for that music bit you added. Otherwise it will be counted as "original research" and will have to be removed via Misplaced Pages's stance against "original research". Bignole 13:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Music Used but not Included in the Superman Returns soundtrack

In Bignole's talk, he mentioned

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Supermann"

Please don't bite me coz I'm a new comer from China. I hate to say it's original research because some of my friends who knows music contribute a lot to the findings. What I did most is to probably compile and tie in to the movie timeline so that others can look for the music easier. Later on, I found some other websites confirming my findings at the following websites:

(1) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/soundtrack (2) http://www.soundtrackinfo.com/ost.asp?soundtrack=5564 (3) http://www.hollywood.com/movies/fulldetail/id/2439035

I don't know how to include them as my source when I edited the Superman Returns page. Please don't remove my virgin contribution. Please help improve. I think sharing the music knowledge is quite important.

From novice user:Supermann at 11:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC+8)

Don't give it to me, reference it in the article. I was merely stating that you should put citations next to your work on the page. I didn't plan on rushing to delete anything. But, you should be aware that there are many editors for that article, and some may think that it's inclusion is not necessary and delete it on principle, regardless of cites. To be on the safe side, I would hurry and cite the music to at least give it some foundation, it will be easier to fight for on a talk page if you can prove that it's noted in other places. To do a proper reference place "< ref >" at the beginning of your internet link and "< /ref >" (except don't put the spaces in there, I only did that so you could view it) at the end of the internet link. Place the whole thing next to one of the songs. It will appear like this: . Bignole 03:38, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

hi there. I'm really not good at learning these web languages. However, I did try. Would you please take a look at the update I make? I put the ref next to the section heading. Many thanks. And by the way, how to add the time next to your name during "talks"? Right now I have to hand-type it. And do I need to reply what I wrote again at the discussion page of your user page. Will you be notified that I have replied to your comments at my talk page? I post the same content of my latest reply at your discussion page just now. Thanks Bignole. Supermann 12:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC+8)

I cleaned it up a bit. Next time don't put the reference in the title of the section, it breaks the code. I placed it in the opening paragraph. If you aren't getting a time next to your name it's probably because you are only placing 3 tildes (~) at the end. Try placing 4 tildes (~ ~ ~ ~) ((again without the spaces)). Also, since I was the first person to leave a comment on your talk page it automatically set it up so that I am "watching" your page. So, I know if you make a change on it. I normally don't want user talk pages, without a reason. I just had not taken the time to remove the talk pages that I "popped" recently. From now on, you don't need to reply to your own page, just reply to my page. The same goes for other users you may confer with. Most do not normally watch fellow user pages. Bignole 04:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

It's no problem. You should have gotten a "welcome" tag from someone, so I just put it up there for you. It provides you with links to things you should know about Misplaced Pages, some tutorials on how to create/edit things. Good luck in the future. Bignole 11:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

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• Don't worry though, another editor fixed the error by re-adding that reference, here. Just letting you know. :-) --220 of 05:04, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

BvS

Superman's significance is in no way diminished by a reader not knowing the cemetery. It's a minor detail when summarizing the plot. People can watch the movie for it. We're here to do quick summarizes, not include minor details because we perceive that somehow make a character more significant. It's Superman. He couldn't be more significant. The movie is about him. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 17:37, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

First, please remember to sign you name by placing 4 tildes (~) at the end. This way the bot doesn't come in an do it over and over again. Next, the "tanking" (which it certainly did not tank...Not sure why you think that) of a film doesn't change the important or wellknownness of a character. Wolverine Origins "tanked" and no one would discount how well known that character is. Again, Superman being buried in a particular cemetery isn't relevant. The funeral in Metropolis (yes, kind of more important because that's his current residence and where the fictional people of the world know Superman to be) is important because it symbolizes that the world celebrated the life of Superman in his "hometown", while his real friends did so in his true home of Smallville. Lastly, including that bit has no bearing on one's citizenship or patriotism. Not sure why you would mention that. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 18:40, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Comparing to other films, then all movies have tanked compared to Titanic. There are real locations in the film, even if Metropolis isn't real. The character doesn't become relevant just because of Arlington Cemetery, which for most people means absolutely nothing. Unless you're in the military, or are knowledgeable about the military, you wouldn't know the significance of the cemetery. That said, where he was "buried" is irrelevant to the fact that "Superman" was buried in one location and "Clark Kent" was buried in another. You're applying you're own personal interpretation to the significance of the location of the burial. There's nothing that supports that as significant for understanding the plot of the film. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 23:07, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

It's a movie. It's not real life. If you feel that strongly, go to the talk page. Cheers. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 11:41, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Shxiyi". The reason given for Shxiyi's block is: "".

Blocking administrator: Alexf (talk • blocks)

Decline reason: You are clearly related to that user. As such, I have blocked this account indefinitely. Please tell your other coworkers at Bliss Media that you are to stop editing Misplaced Pages. Yamla (talk) 12:37, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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There is no COI. Period. Thanks.Supermann (talk) 09:51, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Clearly a lie. You are using the same IP address as the user formally known as BlissMedia. You must think we are idiots. We aren't. --Yamla (talk) 12:46, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I, aka BlissMedia/Shxiyi temporarily, had, have and will not have any contractual relationship and COI of any kind with Bliss Media. I started writing recently because I noticed Orlando Bloom has an upcoming film in his filmography which had been called SMART Chase: Fire & Earth. Some user named Xdeluna, correct me if I am wrong, initially created a page for that particular movie using outdated information or news article. After understanding facts, I started to edit the article and used movie poster grabbed from the social media account of that movie at Sina Weibo. Due to my unfamiliarity with the complicated picture licensing rules, I naively came up with the user name BlissMedia to attribute the source of the image, thinking it had to be done this way to respect copyright. One thing led to another, then I created page for Bliss Media and Thomas Price (actor) using the same BlissMedia account instead of my own Supermann account. Once blocked, I requested a user name change to avoid appearance of COI. Looking back, had I been using my own Supermann account all along, then the articles would probably have been only tagged with notability issues, despite clear and obvious signs at the most recent 89th Academy Awards. Again, there is no payment whatsoever. Please look at the totality of the evidence and stop this innuendo. You could first start by looking at the pattern of the user account Supermann. I am a film buff dated back to 2006. That's why my tiny edits have been focused on movies over the years. It is thru this recent experience that I started learning to write in a longer style, how to use infobox, etc, because I took ownership of creating a page. I apologize if I left the impression that I was evading blocks and what not. It is hard to use wikipedia in a totalitarian country like PRC, because the Chinese Misplaced Pages page is blocked and I had to switch back and forth. I was eager to get the accurate information out backed by facts. I did not paint a rosy picture of the company Bliss Media at its page other than simply listing out its filmography. When it comes to Thomas Price (actor), I added him because he had been out on the scene for 10 plus years and his name is on the movie poster. Going back to the Smart Chase page, when some other editor raised the point of Das Film suing the company, I did not put out a press release, but rather I went to the actual court website and cited the legal document pdf showcasing the latest status of the suit. If an administrator could piece out all these threads together and once again actually read the tone of the content, then s/he could realize there is no paid promotion. I am doing this on my own free time. I am a person of integrity and do not like writing shameless press releases. Thank you so much for your time and consideration. You don't necessarily have to unblock the Shxiyi account, but please unblock the Supermann account. I just want to settle the truth once and for all. The aforementioned appeal had first been written at the Shxiyi talk page. Supermann (talk) 01:59, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Given that you are the agent of Thomas Price, this is at best deliberately misleading. Huon (talk) 02:24, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I am not an agent of Thomas Price (actor). Bliss Media the company is. As I created a page for him using the BlissMedia account and cleaned up how he has appeared in films throughout various Misplaced Pages pages, I raised the point of adding cast info to City Without Baseball. Back then since I was using the BlissMedia account, I said I was an agent. If you look at the movie poster, he is clearly listed there as Thomas Price, but omitted on the infobox. That is why I requested to unprotect so that the info could be added. Trust me. Thomas Price did not pay a single dollar for my effort. Had I not been a film buff, I would not have bothered to make history right.

Decline reason:

You admit being the same person as Shxiyi who is blocked indefinitely. This means that all your accounts should be blocked. PhilKnight (talk) 04:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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Request reason:

The admission has been explained. Again, I am not an agent of any one or entity. I don't get paid for this. There is nothing further to disclose COI per se. All the edits related to the pages of S.M.A.R.T. Chase, Bliss Media, Thomas Price are due to the fact that they are related. The only instance in which I had to contact the company is to ask them whether it's ok to upload the movie poster, the actor's headshot, and the company's logo. Thanks.

Decline reason:

Dishonesty won't get you far here. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 18:54, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

I am not an admin, but think I can predict how this is going to go, it will be turned down. I shall now explain why (At it's most basic level) I think this.

You claimed to be Mr Prices agent, either this was the truth (COI ) or it was not (you told a lie). This (combined with block avoidance) looks like an attempt to conceal something. I would suggest you drop this.Slatersteven (talk) 12:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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Request reason:

There was no dishonesty. There was simply naivete and ignorance of the rules. Claiming to be Mr. Price's agent is more like bragging, only wanting to have the cast info section put up. I'll tell you what's a lie: Donald Trump accusing Obama of wiretapping his phone before the election. What's not a lie: Obama said to Americans: If you like your doctor, you could keep it. Why would someone having spent tens of hours updating List of US Arms sales to Taiwan at https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwan suddenly become an agent of anyone?

Decline reason:

I have no idea what Trump and Obama have to do with this unblock request, but it does not address the reasons for your block. You have already admitted to being the sock of a blocked editor. Seeing as this is now going to this disruption, I'm withdrawing your talk page access. You can file an appeal at WP:UTRS should you choose to do so. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:15, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

What Misplaced Pages is not

, so it does not matter if in 6 months Tom Price wins the Oscar, what matters is the here and now.Slatersteven (talk) 11:00, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

IMDB

Is not RS, please stop using it.Slatersteven (talk) 10:33, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

The problem with your new source (his attendance at university) is that is a user generated page, so it is RS for his claim. Not for it being a fact. Another issue is you need RS establishing notability, and there is precious little of that, not enough to pass AFD.Slatersteven (talk) 10:48, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Talk pages

Talk pages of articles are a really good place to thrash out disputes, rather then just editing.Slatersteven (talk) 11:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

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UTRS appeal #17794 was submitted on Mar 16, 2017 08:12:02. This review is now closed.

--UTRSBot (talk) 08:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Declaration of Socketpuppetry/COI/Paid Editing

I have come out in person to community members incl. but not limited to DGG at Misplaced Pages:Meetup/NYC in May. I am not a ferocious writer with a lot of publicly available articles though. Over the past 10 years, I have been contributing to the community in a very small scale primarily related to the movies which I have watched. Given my immigrant background, my username is apparently inspired by Kryptonian immigrant Superman and my first edit is related to the movie Superman Returns. How time flies. In 2014, I set up a separate account supermansaga with the initial intent to edit on non-English Misplaced Pages pages, but it has become a sleeper account.

Because of my personal journey, I have a thing for military-themed movies and subjects. That is why I fixed List of US arms sales to Taiwan to ensure President Obama's legacy over a two-day period in Feb 2016 with some crazy hours. Regrettably, neither the president nor his Dept of Defense paid me for my efforts.

A year later, because I was grateful for movie production and distribution company Bliss Media's efforts to bring pacifist war film Hacksaw Ridge to China, I decided to edit or create pages related to their existing and upcoming projects, incl. but not limited to S.M.A.R.T. Chase, Bliss Media, Wei Han, Thomas Price (actor) from Feb thru Mar 2017. To consolidate all such efforts and go around the photo uploading rules of using high definition pictures, I ridiculously set up yet another account BlissMedia/Shxiyi without understanding the gravity of Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry rules. Nor did I fully understand the impact of Bliss Media and Wei Han pages having been previously deleted years ago because of an advertising nature. I did reach out to the company to encourage them to release the rights of high-def pictures, but I presume they never acted on my suggestion. Anyways, I am the sole person behind all three accounts of supermann, supermansaga, Blissmedia/shxiyi. That's why at certain points supermann shared IP addresses with shxiyi after that account was blocked. There are no so-called coworkers there conspiring with me to spam Misplaced Pages in 2017. DGG has concluded that what I had created for Bliss Media the page is quite different from an earlier version. The tones and wordings of my unblock appeal requests have been consistent. I was indeed physically in China traveling to visit family and relatives and friends, but had to use proxy most of the time to circumvent the the Great Firewall of China. For example, NYTimes is blocked. Looking back, I wish I had simply and only used my main account supermann to edit all those pages. While I was writing under the BlissMedia/shxiyi account, I did claim to be an agent of Thomas Price, because I was thinking from the perspective of the company, but as I have repeatedly written multiple times: I don't have any contractual relationship with the company that has clouded my judgment or enriched my pockets. I only care about whatever should and could be written about them. I have no interest in further promoting it other than convincing others that those pages should not be deleted due to notability.

To sum up, I am indeed guilty of socketpuppetry and evading blocks in the heat of passionately defending my edits/creation. I am willing to put this chapter behind me by taking up the generous offer from Yamla. That is to say I will "agree to refrain from directly editing any article at all related to Bliss Media, broadly construed. You could suggest edits on the articles' talk pages, so long as you disclose your conflict of interest. And of course, no more sockpuppetry." And DGG will watch over me, too. However, I wish the deleted pages of Bliss Media, Wei Han, Thomas Price (actor) could be restored and have any puffery removed. I also wish there was an expiration to the stringent requirement of staying away from those pages. If there are people actively editing them without spamming, I could definitely stay away. But last time I checked, people undoing changes on S.M.A.R.T. Chase are not maintaining it well and left dead links. For example, for people complaining there is little about this movie, they did not notice Orlando Bloom appeared on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon on the same night of Misplaced Pages:Meetup/NYC in May to talk about it.

Thank you so much to those policing in the community who have made me a better contributor down the road. I do believe this is a necessary lesson.

As I am the original blocking admin on this particular account, I have now lifted your block under these terms. You are free to request removal of the restriction around directly editing anything to do with Bliss Media, broadly construed, in six months (i.e. in December, 2017) and any admin may lift these editing restrictions without consulting me, so long as they have verified you've made no edits to any such articles, broadly construed. You are free to suggest edits at any time, on these articles' talk pages, but must otherwise stay away from that topic area. You are under no restriction from articles completely unrelated to Bliss Media. I do not wish to trap you here. You need to stay away from Orlando Bloom, just to use one example, as that is part of your editing restriction. That's a topic related to Bliss Media. You already know this; your previous edits were specifically to discuss the relation with Bliss Media projects, there. --Yamla (talk) 11:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

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