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== Categorization of countries == | |||
Hello, Hmains. I noticed that yesterday you labelled the "Countries in Oceania" category as "allincluded". Just a few months ago, another user was blocked for insisting on treating these "Countries in ..." categories as "allincluded" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Wwikix#Categorization_of_countries_in_Polynesia ). Has there been any discussion of this issue since then? If there hasn't, then your changes are controversial and need to be undone. I've already reverted your change to the Oceania category (and, per ], reverted all of the category additions to the articles on the individual countries). But I see you've used AWB to make similar changes in other "Countries in ..." categories. If there hasn't been any consensus to label these categories as "allincluded", would you please undo all of those changes? ] (]) 12:49, 20 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
*I did not realize there was any controversy here. The use of 'all included' as described in the MOS seems perfectly warranted here to help reader navigation to articles, the sole purpose of the WP category system. Why should there be any question about this? ] (]) 23:59, 20 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Another AWB edit which broke categoristion == | |||
This. | |||
Please could you find some way of doing category edits which allows you to check whether the categ you add actually exists? Cleaning up after these AWB errors is getting boring. --] <small>] • (])</small> 00:21, 26 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
:And another two: , . --] <small>] • (])</small> 00:24, 26 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
::And another 2: , . --] <small>] • (])</small> 15:48, 29 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
*Thank you for your patience. Other than manually checking every AWB save of mine, is there any way I can find these myself so as not to bother you with them? ] (]) 16:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC). | |||
::To be honest, my patience is being stretched :( I only throw occasional samples of these errors your way, but based on my sampling, there seem to be about a dozen of them in every 3-day update of ]. | |||
:: AWB previews don't display categories, so there is no way of spotting errors without using some other tool, such as reviewing the changes in a web browser. | |||
::Rule #1 of ] is very clear: {{tq|You are responsible for every edit made. Do not sacrifice quality for speed, and review all changes before saving.}} | |||
::You are using AWB to make changes which you you know that you cannot review using AWB. So, you can either use another editing tool (e.g. HotCat), or review your edits after use. But the way you are using AWB at the moment is to leave others to clean up after you, which is a breach of its terms of use. Please don't let this continue until I get fed up and press that point. --] <small>] • (])</small> 03:05, 30 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
:::It may be sufficient to set up AWB, then after the first "Save", go to Special:Contributions (as the easiest way to find that edit) and check that just-saved page to ensure that it looks OK (no red categories in this case). If it's OK, then it's probably safe to hit the Save button for the rest of them without checking them all. (That's what I tend to do for search/replace type edits that involve regex and/or formatting, for example. At most you get one wrong, and it can be fixed immediately. <small>Well maybe serveral wrong, if it takes a couple of attempts to get AWB set up right, but in each case the error is detected and corrected immediately.</small>) ] (]) 12:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
::::@]: that's a good practice when using AWB. I test my first few edits of any AWB job that way. | |||
::::However, I am not sure that it would help in this case, for two reasons: | |||
::::# From looking at the pattern of edits, it seems to me that at least some of these edits are manually tweaked, rather than being solely the product of a regex | |||
::::# 9 times out 10, ]'s edit is semantically and syntactically fine, but places an article in a category which does not exist. Usually it's a category which could theoretically exist, but doesn't because there are not enough other similar articles to justify creating the category. If the edit is done in a browser, the save displays the categ as a redink if it doesn't exist. If you use HotCat, it tells you before you save whether the categ exists ... but AWB doesn't show the effect of the edit in categories. | |||
::::The problem here is that ] knows this limitation of AWB, but persists in using it without properly checking the results. That means that his edits need to be tidied up by others. --] <small>] • (])</small> 16:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
And another one . --] <small>] • (])</small> 20:18, 4 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
* I have been going to Special:WantedCategories to see what I can do there but I don't see where this showed up on the last list that I can see. But it is dated "and was last updated 23:17, 31 May 2017" so maybe there is a later list that I am not seeing. I have also requested that AWB be enhanced to tell editors that a category being used in an AWB edited article/category the AWB not exist. I will see how far that gets. ] (]) 20:29, 4 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
*And another one . | |||
:Look, ] , this is very simple. You know perfectly well that AWB does not allow you to verify these categories. It may or may not be changed in he future to allow checks on whether categories exist, but right now, it doesn't. | |||
:In the meantime, <big>'''take responsibility for your own edits rather than blaming the known deficiencies of the tools you choose to use'''</big>. | |||
:You can do this <big>'''either by using tools which incorporate the checks, or by checking each edit in a browser'''</big>. You know those options, because they have been spelt out to you for months. | |||
:'''I have had enough of politely pointing out again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again that and your editing pattern is creating errors due to your repeated refusal to use ] only in accordance with the ]. This is now ] and ], and if it happens again I will ask that your AWB permission is revoked. I may also block you.''' | |||
:Last warning. --] <small>] • (])</small> 13:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
and another. --] <small>] • (])</small> 15:20, 5 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
:and another two, . Note that both of those were to the same page, only minutes apart. Two edits to the same page, but neither of them was checked. This is ridiculous. --] <small>] • (])</small> 00:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
::Now here is a batch of twenty pages which you moved into the non-existent ]: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . | |||
::If you had checked any one of those twenty edits, you'd have seen that you were moving them into a non-existent category. --] <small>] • (])</small> 01:27, 6 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
* I am sorry about all the trouble this has caused you. ] (]) 03:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)U | |||
== June 2017 == | |||
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== The Madrasa of Abulkosim GOCEreviewed == | |||
Hi, I reviewed The Madrasa of Abulkosim for which you added a copy-edit template, unfortauntely the condition of the article is such that I can't do a copy-edit until the sourcing of the article is improved, so I have removed the template for now. Please let me know if you have any questions. ] <sup>(])</span></sup> 07:50, 23 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
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- Speaking of recurring problems...
- I notice that in each of the cases mentioned above, the article is in Category:Skyscraper office buildings in Pittsburgh (which is not a non-diffusing category), which is already in Category:Skyscrapers in Pittsburgh (which is not {{all included}}) - so the additional inclusion of the article directly in Category:Skyscrapers in Pittsburgh would appear to directly contradict WP:SUBCAT's assertion that "an article should be categorised as low down in the category hierarchy as possible, without duplication in parent categories above it. In other words, a page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category (supercategory) of that category".
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Alafia River and category Rodies of water of Hillsborough County, Florida
Hi, I think you made a mistake at Alafia River when you changed a category to "Rodies of water of Hillsborough County, Florida". I changed Rodies to Bodies, as I'm sure you meant, but then I was unable to make things work out the way they should... Could you take a look? Thanks! Jacona (talk) 14:02, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I fixed it. I not only had to fix the article but also the category that I also named wrong. Thanks for noting and trying. I wonder what a 'rody' might be? Certainly an available word for some use. Hmains (talk) 02:50, 27 June 2017 (UTC)