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| I am well aware of the historic and current issues facing Dalits but Misplaced Pages is not the place to ]. Whoever is co-ordinating these initiatives needs to get a grip on those who are participating because it really isn't acceptable. So who is it? - ] (]) 06:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC) | I am well aware of the historic and current issues facing Dalits but Misplaced Pages is not the place to ]. Whoever is co-ordinating these initiatives needs to get a grip on those who are participating because it really isn't acceptable. So who is it? - ] (]) 06:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC) | ||
| :Misplaced Pages was created to document and share the sum of all human knowledge. When a large group of people (in the millions) are generally absent and considered "marginal", that is indeed a ''great wrong''. The motto "Misplaced Pages is not the place to right great wrongs" in this instance enforces a historical status quo with intransigent and conservative resistance. Why? Because Misplaced Pages not only reflects the world as it is (full of wrongs), but we are also charged with documenting the world as it has ''changed'' (a category of "rights" indeed). Misplaced Pages can't be ahead of reliable sources, but that's not what is at issue here actually. There are plenty of reliable sources about Dalit people, and good faith efforts here to incorporate them into the encyclopedia. The Dalit subject-area is not well developed on Misplaced Pages and needs a lot of work. So, when a campaign of dozens if not hundreds of people--leaderless, or rather full of many leaders (I'm not one of them btw), from all over the world--in the U.S. and India and elsewhere--make an effort to document and share knowledge about the notable figures and culture of an entire human group and its history, prominent figures, and changemakers, that is... ''wrong''? They need to "get a grip"? They cause "mayhem"? It is all "unacceptable"? I think not ]. Instead it looks like you are keeping a gate shut on a group of people who are in your view by definition "marginal". That is unacceptable. ]<sup> ]|]</sup> 00:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC) | :Misplaced Pages was created to document and share the sum of all human knowledge. When a large group of people (in the millions) are generally absent and considered "marginal", that is indeed a ''great wrong''. The motto "Misplaced Pages is not the place to right great wrongs" in this instance enforces a historical status quo with intransigent and conservative resistance. Why? Because Misplaced Pages not only reflects the world as it is (full of wrongs), but we are also charged with documenting the world as it has ''changed'' (a category of "rights" indeed). Misplaced Pages can't be ahead of reliable sources, but that's not what is at issue here actually. There are plenty of reliable sources about Dalit people, and good faith efforts here to incorporate them into the encyclopedia. The Dalit subject-area is not well developed on Misplaced Pages and needs a lot of work. So, when a campaign of dozens if not hundreds of people--leaderless, or rather full of many leaders (I'm not one of them btw), from all over the world--in the U.S. and India and elsewhere--make an effort to document and share knowledge about the notable figures and culture of an entire human group and its history, prominent figures, and changemakers, that is... ''wrong''? They need to "get a grip"? They cause "mayhem"? It is all "unacceptable"? I think not ]. Instead it looks like you are keeping a gate shut on a group of people who are in your view by definition "marginal". That is unacceptable. ]<sup> ]|]</sup> 00:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC) | ||
| ::Says you, who has done fuck all in the India topic area and knows fuck all about it? When you have lifted the weight I have, I'll listen to your views on what is or is not acceptable. - ] (]) 05:21, 15 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Who is co-ordinating this thing?
People who seem to be involved with this Dalit History Month thing, usually operating out of the US, seem generally to make a real mess of things. Examples include numerous copyright violations, misrepresentation of sources, misuse of categories and creation of very poor articles about marginal subject matter.
I am well aware of the historic and current issues facing Dalits but Misplaced Pages is not the place to right great wrongs. Whoever is co-ordinating these initiatives needs to get a grip on those who are participating because it really isn't acceptable. So who is it? - Sitush (talk) 06:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages was created to document and share the sum of all human knowledge. When a large group of people (in the millions) are generally absent and considered "marginal", that is indeed a great wrong. The motto "Misplaced Pages is not the place to right great wrongs" in this instance enforces a historical status quo with intransigent and conservative resistance. Why? Because Misplaced Pages not only reflects the world as it is (full of wrongs), but we are also charged with documenting the world as it has changed (a category of "rights" indeed). Misplaced Pages can't be ahead of reliable sources, but that's not what is at issue here actually. There are plenty of reliable sources about Dalit people, and good faith efforts here to incorporate them into the encyclopedia. The Dalit subject-area is not well developed on Misplaced Pages and needs a lot of work. So, when a campaign of dozens if not hundreds of people--leaderless, or rather full of many leaders (I'm not one of them btw), from all over the world--in the U.S. and India and elsewhere--make an effort to document and share knowledge about the notable figures and culture of an entire human group and its history, prominent figures, and changemakers, that is... wrong? They need to "get a grip"? They cause "mayhem"? It is all "unacceptable"? I think not Sitush. Instead it looks like you are keeping a gate shut on a group of people who are in your view by definition "marginal". That is unacceptable. Ocaasi 00:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Says you, who has done fuck all in the India topic area and knows fuck all about it? When you have lifted the weight I have, I'll listen to your views on what is or is not acceptable. - Sitush (talk) 05:21, 15 July 2017 (UTC)