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:Another issue with your edit to ] was that the section "Notable CIC agents" only mentions people who are '']''. Ideally, there should be an existing Misplaced Pages article, showing the person's notability supported by reliable independent sources, before his or her name is added to the list; if there is no article, the addition of the name has to be sourced (and again, personal knowledge doesn't count, I'm afraid.) Also note that as Mr. West's son, you have a ] which means that you should avoid directly editing articles about him, or adding his name to articles. You can post to ] and request that the article be edited. To do this, go to the talk page, add the text <nowiki>{{request edit}}</nowiki> (including the curly brackets) to the page, and below that the text of your request. An uninvolved editor will look at your request and decide whether to implement it. Regards, --'']'' <small>] ]</small> 11:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC) :Another issue with your edit to ] was that the section "Notable CIC agents" only mentions people who are '']''. Ideally, there should be an existing Misplaced Pages article, showing the person's notability supported by reliable independent sources, before his or her name is added to the list; if there is no article, the addition of the name has to be sourced (and again, personal knowledge doesn't count, I'm afraid.) Also note that as Mr. West's son, you have a ] which means that you should avoid directly editing articles about him, or adding his name to articles. You can post to ] and request that the article be edited. To do this, go to the talk page, add the text <nowiki>{{request edit}}</nowiki> (including the curly brackets) to the page, and below that the text of your request. An uninvolved editor will look at your request and decide whether to implement it. Regards, --'']'' <small>] ]</small> 11:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

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William C. West

I am William C. West Jr. A very reliable source when it comes to my father, William C. West Sr. and his career in the C.I.C. both during and after WWII when he retired from the military and went to work for the C.I.A. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Closer66 (talkcontribs) 10:11, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I understand your concern and do not doubt the veracity of what you say. However, one of Misplaced Pages's most basic principles is that all information has to be supported by independent published sources - this is further discussed and explained on this page. A Misplaced Pages editor (such as you or me) can never be a source; if Queen Elizabeth II came to Misplaced Pages to edit articles about her parents, her edits would still need independent sources.
Another issue with your edit to Counterintelligence Corps was that the section "Notable CIC agents" only mentions people who are notable according to Misplaced Pages's peculiar definition of notability. Ideally, there should be an existing Misplaced Pages article, showing the person's notability supported by reliable independent sources, before his or her name is added to the list; if there is no article, the addition of the name has to be sourced (and again, personal knowledge doesn't count, I'm afraid.) Also note that as Mr. West's son, you have a conflict of interest which means that you should avoid directly editing articles about him, or adding his name to articles. You can post to Talk:Counterintelligence Corps and request that the article be edited. To do this, go to the talk page, add the text {{request edit}} (including the curly brackets) to the page, and below that the text of your request. An uninvolved editor will look at your request and decide whether to implement it. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Bona is ready to eat yellow material of administrators

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More on that sock

I found Autistic Furry and blocked after seeing that you had tagged the sock. Thank you, that was helpful. It is an older account but before we adjust any tags, I suspect that this belongs to a more established sock that likes to troll. I have to get ready and leave out so I can't continue at the moment but I have been comparing our guy to this case and some of his puppets and I got there via this editor. What do you think? I see a good deal of similarities. Have to run.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 15:02, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks - yes, I think you're right. I don't have time to delve deeply into it now, but my impression is definitely that it's the same person, though they seem to have relocatedfrom Manitoba to Alberta in the meantime. --bonadea contributions talk 17:01, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. I have filed the SPI case and we'll see where it goes from there.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:09, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Reasons for removing Page delete template from Ravi D. Channannavar Page

@bonadea Please do check the number of people do search with keyword Ravi D Channannavar. Average of 230 people/Day do visit this page to get information Pageviews Analysis. Ravi D. Channannavar is a very famous Police officer unlike other police officers, He has gained lot of respect over Karnataka, India by his unique way of doing his duty. Most of the content here is referred from News papers (which has 6 crores of Readers) & TV Interview. He has been appeared in TV Shows Weekend with Ramesh where achievers are invited to share their story so that People can inspire from it. My sincere request it to not to delete this page. Please do search in Google about this person, off the[REDACTED] page you will get tons of articles and TV interview about him(Kindly use https://www.google.co.in for searching. This is India search engine). Please don't conclude about the notability. Please do let us know if any concerns. Thank you!

Please do use https://www.google.co.in for searching, this is what we get default search engine URL in india. Don't go by https://www.google.com which you are doing above. Before concluding about his notability check below.

This belongs on the AfD discussion page, where it has also been posted. (Please be very careful not to draw conclusions about other Misplaced Pages users. Thank you.) --bonadea contributions talk 17:41, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

@bonadea Yes, added these comments on discussion page. What i'm trying to say is you could have added some other template to make article more Neutral instead of deletion template. As i said earlier in my comment this page got 230 avg views per day. By simply deleting this page means we are disappointing those readers who came to read wiki article. I have respect towards all[REDACTED] Users :) I had put lot of time and effort to do research on this topic and create this[REDACTED] article, so bit worried about this page  :(
NaveenNkadalaveni (talk) 17:56, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Notability unfortunately cannot be addressed by rewriting the page. Yes, I could have removed the entire "Achievements" section in order to get rid of most of the promotional/non-neutral content, but the reason the article is nominated for deletion is not lack of neutrality, it is lack of notability. I understand completely the frustration when an article you have worked on is nominated for deletion - it has happened to me, too, and to most active editors - but it's important to recognise two things: 1) the nomination is not about you or any other Misplaced Pages editor, and it is not a slight on your work. 2) That a person is not notable according to Misplaced Pages's peculiar definition of the word does not in any way mean that they are not worthy or important. As I wrote in my nomination statement, a person can do their job incredibly well, but that does not in itself make them notable per Misplaced Pages's definition. Thank you, --bonadea contributions talk 18:36, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Looking at the article history, unfortunately it seems that although it was previously flagged for inappropriate tone and a lack of third-party sources, those tags were removed without the issues having been addressed. Hence, tagging the article would probably not have served any purpose. --bonadea contributions talk 18:58, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
@bonadea Yes, It was flagged to improve that article. Accordingly i have made certain changes to bring that article to some Neutral point. You can see some dozens of edits from me right after that flag template. In fact i have asked my friend who is Non-Misplaced Pages user to check this and give comments to make it Neutral & to change its tone (That's what we call Buddy-Check in our Software Engineering). This is my First article which has highest view till today :) Page Views -- NaveenNkadalaveni (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Not vandalism

I wasn't vandalising pages... There has been a consensus decision, and the person who did all the NOTDIRECTORY removals himself revert some of them. See this: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?oldid=787047417#Lots_of_deletions_related_to_NOTDIR --Shinnosukeandme (talk) 19:52, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Jeremy Meeks (convict) for deletion

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Mahto

Hi Mam, Its my humble request to please remove some of the contents from the Mahto article as those contents are totally irrelevant. You can see the links also where you can see the information on this cummunity.Nowhere these castes are mentioned in the world liberary books. Links are below.

http://www.ebooklibrary.org/article/WHEBN0047397078/Mahto http://forebears.io/surnames/mahto

The below contents are falsely updated intentionally by the admin user Utcursch. Please remove the below contents only if you don't want to add anything.

Now, "Mahto" is used as a surname by several communities. The castes that use Mahto or Mahato as a surname, clan name or title include: Beldar Bhumihar Chamar Dhanuk Dhobi Dusadh Goala Khairwar Koeri Kudumi Mahato (Kurmi Mahto) Oraon Bhuinhars Sunris Tharus Yadavs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sammi1011 (talkcontribs) 20:06, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Sammi1011 has been blocked as a sockpuppet. --bonadea contributions talk 06:40, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

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Bonedea

go to this link and read EVERYTHING on it He currently lives in New Albany with his son Dennyn.<ref>http://www.therainesgroup.com/staff/jeanluc</ref — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.188.216.235 (talk) 13:57, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

That is not what the source says. It mentions a wife and two children, nothing about a son by any name. In addition, it is unlikely that the son should be mentioned by name anyway, per Misplaced Pages's rules for biographies about living people. (And yes, I know that General Ization has said all these things to you already.) --bonadea contributions talk 14:10, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Bonedea. I offer a compromise. can i say that he currently lives with his son, but not mention a name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.188.216.235 (talk) 14:18, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

No, you can't add any unsourced information, I'm afraid. --bonadea contributions talk 14:32, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Film release

Hello, You recently edited Aarti the unknown love story stating no reliable source. IMDB link is mentioned in external links where the release date is mentioned.{{subst:unsigned|VidhiV|11:50, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

@VidhiV: Thank you for your message. The release date needs a reliable source, and IMDb is not a reliable source per Misplaced Pages's definition, because it is based on user submitted info with very little editorial oversight. Please see this information. Different people have added different release dates to the Misplaced Pages article, and unless there is a reliable, secondary source such a date should not be added. (There is no hurry :-) ) Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 12:02, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Hypnotherapy

Hi Bonadea, thank you for the information. I am new to Misplaced Pages editing and appreciate your feedback. The Hypnotherapy page has many errors and incorrect definitions. Ideally I would like to go through the whole article and track changes where there are errors, however at this stage I am only making changes to the following major mistakes on the page:

1. Hypnotherapy is a form of psychotherapy (Brom, D., Kleber, R. J., & Defares, P. B. (1989). Brief psychotherapy for posttraumatic stress disorders. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 57(5), 607; Haley, J. (1963). Strategies of psychotherapy; Wolberg, L. R. (1948). Medical hypnosis, Vol. 2. The practice of hypnotherapy; Zeig, J. K., & Munion, W. (1990). What is psychotherapy?: Contemporary perspectives. Jossey-Bass).

2. Hypnotherapy benefits are not placebo, they are cognitive, neurological and therapeutic (Bernheim, H. (1964). Hypnosis & suggestion in psychotherapy: a treatise on the nature and uses of hypnotism. Tr. from the 2d rev. University Books; Eimer, B. N., & Freeman, A. (1998). Pain management psychotherapy: A practical guide. New York, NY: John Wiley & Sons; Wolberg, L. R. (1948). Medical hypnosis, Vol. 2. The practice of hypnotherapy; Walters, C., & Havens, R. A. (1993). Hypnotherapy for health, harmony, and peak performance: Expanding the goals of psychotherapy. Psychology Press).

3. Hypnotherapy applications are used in a clinical setting for psychotherapy and counselling, not for stage hypnosis and hypnosurgery (Brom, D., Kleber, R. J., & Defares, P. B. (1989). Brief psychotherapy for posttraumatic stress disorders. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 57(5), 607; Guthrie, E., & Whorwell, P. J. (2002). Psychotherapy and hypnotherapy in IBS. Irritable bowel syndrome: diagnosis and treatment. London7 WB Saunders; Haley, J. (1963). Strategies of psychotherapy; Wolberg, L. R. (1948). Medical hypnosis, Vol. 2. The practice of hypnotherapy; Zeig, J. K., & Munion, W. (1990). What is psychotherapy?: Contemporary perspectives. Jossey-Bass). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurmarx (talkcontribs) 16:02, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Kind regards, Arthur.

Hypnotherapy- Removed user contribution

Hi Bonadea, I followed your instruction and both cited and explained my edits correctly. As mentioned previously, the hypnotherapy page has many errors that need to be fixed. It took me over 40 minutes to update the page and you simply deleted my updates for a second time. Can we please resolve the issue with the page for the benefit of users to have the correct information.

I look forward to your response. Many thanks. Arthur.

RfA

File:New Zealand TW-17.svg Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. Cullen Let's discuss it 16:46, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is open to all users, please refrain from posting threats on my page

I have only been polite and professional with the aim of providing correct and cited information. You haven't added any constructive information or references to the page, you have only been inappropriately policing my edits for some reason. Misplaced Pages encourages user participation and for users to make edits. I have been following the guidelines that you suggested ("The BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. No one is ever required to follow this process, but it can sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and helping to break deadlocks. In other situations, you may have better success with alternatives to this approach."). You may need to review them yourself to ensure that you act appropriately, without discouraging people's contributions- The same rules apply to all users.

My edits to the Hypnotherapy page have been appropriate, however I will also add comments to the article's talk page shortly. Please be patient and non-threatening, I am only here to help make the information accurate. Kind regards.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurmarx (talkcontribs) 20:07, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

I am sorry you think the warning template was threatening, but your claim that consensus is not mandatory did call for a stricter warning than the (several) personalised messages you had received previously. The key thing here is that the edits are not uncontroversial, and that means that a consensus building discussion is not optional. (Please read the most recent message on your user talk page carefully - you have not in fact added any references to the page, only in edit summaries - and one of the issues with your edits is the removal of sourced information, such as hypnotherapy being an alternative treatment.) Thank you for taking this to the article talk page, that is the important point. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 20:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

English Varieties

I am very sorry for changing a word into a different type of English in Owe Thörnqvist. I really didn't know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tallahassle (talkcontribs) 23:26, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

@Tallahassle: Don't worry about it - I wanted to point it out to you because I thought you probably didn't know, and now you do, so it's all good. :-) --bonadea contributions talk 17:31, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Revert Warning

Warning icon Hey, Why did you revert my works and left a warning message? I haven't done anything wrong. There are so many works and you don't even have the courage to revert those. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdullah-al-asif (talkcontribs) 05:30, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Please understand that Misplaced Pages cannot be used for promotion. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 08:12, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
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