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Network Time Foundation

Hello! I'm at Wikimania and one participant was talking about creating an article on this subject. We saw there was a previous version that was deleted, which I took a peek at. While it has its issues and some promotional wording, I found it to otherwise be a well-sourced article on an apparently notable subject. As the deleting admin, I was hoping you could give it a look and see if it's worth reviving? We could move it to the draftspace and go from there. OK by you? — MusikAnimal 02:09, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: If you think it's salvageable, by all means. Seraphimblade 02:37, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! — MusikAnimal 02:45, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

deletion of article "Suneet Singh Tuli"

This article should not have been deleted in my opinion, rather I request it be restored and marked for further expanding for following reason: 1. Article about company DataWind , which is famous worldwide for producing cheapest tablets like Aakash for which promotion charge is there in deletion request , is already there on enwiki . 2. Person Suneet Singh Tuli , is already a prominent person whose name as is there in Forbes Imapt 15 list of magazine ; Person has been awarded at global platforms including launch of his innovative and most affordable product by poor Aakash Tablet ;by Ban ki moon , Secretary General of United Nations . I request for review of deletion and request for restoration of article in his name.Guglani (talk) 06:10, 15 August 2017 (UTC) Guglani (talk) 06:10, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

For more references about awards and honours to the person please refer article in Punjabi wiki Suneet Singh Tuli in Punjabi

Suneet Singh Tuli was nominated for deletion by me. Seraphimblade deleted it, and you will need to liaise with them about perhaps resurrecting it as a draft. Edwardx (talk) 15:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I have reproduced discussion on talk page of user:Edwardex , as he asked to liaise with you about this.If not possible to restore, please provide me draft of this article.Guglani (talk) 16:53, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@Guglani: As I ask anyone who's had a G11 deletion, please clarify whether you are being paid or compensated to write this article, or have been asked to do so as a duty of employment. If so, there are some disclosures you will need to make before we proceed. Seraphimblade 17:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

At wiki I do not work for any paid articles. you can see my contributions . IF you ignore independent sources for prominence of subject then I have no more requests to you to restore. your question has hurt me because of doubt on my integrity.There is no evidence for such doubt , If you genuinely feel you should restore you may do it.You are welcome for any questions about prominence of subject, I shall be happy to discuss it.Guglani (talk) 00:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

@Guglani: Nothing against you. It's something I ask everyone who comes to discuss a G11 deletion. In many cases, the person is being paid, and was simply unaware of the disclosure requirement. If you say you're not, I'll take you at your word. That being said, there's nothing really salvageable in that article. It's full of fluff like "Despite the problem, he competed against the difficulties" (talking up, informal tone), "Tuli showed his accumen with his idea to get this large size fax machine to be taken into Guinnes Book of World Records" (promotional language), "(suggestion Suneet Singh's natural business brain gave the student Suneet to his brother Raja Tuli at the time)" (we don't do parenthetical editorials), and "His brain was concentrating to make the hand very powerful in using the Internet." So, I'm not going to undelete it, because it's better to start over. You can do so, but I strongly suggest you do it as a draft rather than in mainspace, and stay away from any overly positive language that is not neutral. Stick to a presentation of only facts that are supported by your references. Seraphimblade 11:32, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions , I will incorporate in this and future articles.Guglani (talk) 13:58, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

But is there a way that text of article can be made available to me in sone form so that I need not struggle to gather facts and references search again ?if it is there please make the text available to me.Guglani (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

@Guglani: If you have email enabled I can send it to you that way. Let me know if you'd like it and if so if you would prefer a plain text or wikimarkup version. Seraphimblade 15:09, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

you may send mail in wikimarkup version .My user I'd Guglani is email enabled.--Guglani (talk) 15:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

I've emailed it to you. Seraphimblade 20:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again--Guglani (talk) 01:55, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

References

1. http://www.tribuneindia.com/article/news_print.aspx?story_id=319818&catid=20&mid=53
2. http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2014/11/21/datawind-ceo-suneet-singh-tuli-receives-award-of-honor-at-65th-world-sikh
3. http://www.tribuneindia.com/article/news_print.aspx?story_id=319818&catid=20&mid=53

TBST

Hey, regarding the non-AE portion of TBST's troubles:

1. Me being less harsh than others is rare, I know. But not unheard of. I don't know, it sounds kind of stupid when I say it out loud, but he's so much less disruptive now than he used to be, it seems a shame to indef now when we didn't do it then. I think a short wake-up call is in order, though, since Ponyo already specifically mentioned the sanctions in February. An indef could be held in reserve if things don't get better quickly.
2. I'm not going to be doing the blocking/reinstating the other topic bans, because I can't count on being around much in the next few days, in case they're appealed. So if you or User:Black Kite want something further done, don't wait around thinking I'm about to.

--Floquenbeam (talk) 21:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@Floquenbeam: Well, that's why it rather got my attention. I'll take more of a look at it later, but so far as the 1RR goes, there's a lot of history of edit warring but the blocks are some years ago. So, probably 72 hours or thereabouts. Thanks for letting me know though, I'll take a look at it later if Black Kite doesn't get to it first. Seraphimblade 22:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• FYI: User talk:Twitbookspacetube#Previous community-imposed topic bans reinstated. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:08, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@Floquenbeam: Yep, and then indeffed anyway. I rather suspected things were heading in that direction. Seraphimblade 16:48, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 23

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Society for Academic Continuing Medical Education

Seraphimblade -- The author published one copy called SACME this morning, then anotherSociety for Academic Continuing Medical Education you blew away, then another I PRODed, to which the editor scrambled my tag. I'm not expert or confident enough to tackle this one. Good luck and thank you. Rhadow (talk) 19:54, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@Rhadow: Promotional articles can be tagged with {{db-g11}}. I've deleted the articles with a dose of salt this time, thanks for letting me know about it. Seraphimblade 18:05, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Closing

Hi, Seraphimblade. Regarding this and this, do you mind closing the rest of the thread as well? I'm not sure if any further comments will be made to the thread, but, given the nature of the thread, I think it's best that the entire thread go ahead and be closed. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:55, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

@Flyer22 Reborn: Yes, I do mind. It looks like people are still discussing some of the surrounding issues, and I see no reason to stop them from that. Seraphimblade 20:13, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't see the discussion going any further (except in circles), and anyone clicking on the top of the thread will not see that the issue has been resolved, but okay. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:15, 29 August 2017 (UTC)