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			] said . The statement is not unsourced. See section "Teaching the STM" in the source: "All the women who participated in the study were taught the STM by accredited teachers" Strangely, this important fact is not stated at all in the abstract of the study. --] (]) 11:12, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Early history and Birth control movements

I just wanted to clarify the edits I made to this page, which were all included in the "History" section. I added some more details and examples of early birth control to the "Early history" subsection, specific to Medieval Europe, as I thought it was lacking and could use some more examples, particularly on the history of condoms. In the "Birth control movement" subsection, I added some more information about Margaret Sanger, including the location of the first birth control clinic, and her involvement in what is now known as Planned Parenthood. I also added information on the efforts of Presidents Johnson and Obama to further birth control access, as well as the FDA approving the first oral contraceptive, known as Enovid.

Aqcamps33 (talk) 22:29, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Implantation

Have restored "The are unlikely to affect implantation." which states "The evidence strongly supports disruption of ovulation as a mechanism of action. The data suggest that emergency contraceptives are unlikely to act by interfering with implantation"

References

Leung, Vivian W. Y; Levine, Marc; Soon, Judith A (February 2010). "Mechanisms of Action of Hormonal Emergency Contraceptives". Pharmacotherapy. 30 (2): 158–168. doi:10.1592/phco.30.2.158. PMID 20099990. The evidence strongly supports disruption of ovulation as a mechanism of action. The data suggest that emergency contraceptives are unlikely to act by interfering with implantation

This is better than a product insert IMO that says "Prescribing information: Ella; 12.1 Mechanism of action" (PDF). Silver Spring, Md.: FDA Center for Drug Evaluation and Research (CDER). pp. 4–5. When taken immediately before ovulation is to occur, ella postpones follicular rupture. The likely primary mechanism of action of ulipristal acetate for emergency contraception is therefore inhibition or delay of ovulation; however, alterations to the endometrium that may affect implantation may also contribute to efficacy... The pharmacodynamics of ulipristal acetate depends on the timing of administration in the menstrual cycle. Administration in the mid-follicular phase causes inhibition of folliculogenesis and reduction of estradiol concentration. Administration at the time of the luteinizing hormone peak delays follicular rupture by 5 to 9 days. Dosing in the early luteal phase does not significantly delay endometrial maturation but decreases endometrial thickness by 0.6 ± 2.2 mm (mean ± SD)."

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:20, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Agree... I also removed source based on non-MEDLINE indexed journal article from a journal associated with the "Catholic Medical Association" (?) as non-MEDRS. Zad68 16:42, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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http://www.ancient.eu/article/835/ Birth control can provide many benefits. Birth control promotes safe sex because it can prevent unwanted pregnancies and make people more aware of what consequences can come from it. It also comes with some health benefits. Birth control can make periods lighter, reduce cramping , clear up acne , and it has even been proven to reduce the risk of certain cancers . Birth control can also help reduce the teenage pregnancy rate. After the IUD came out the teen pregnancy rate in Colorado alone was cut in half within 5 years . There are definitely some drawbacks to using birth control. It can cause users to gain weight, it can increase the possibility of having a stroke , and it can increase the chance in getting blood clots . Because there are so many different forms of birth control, it can make it safer for different women if they can find one that does not effect their health in a bad way. Birth control is just like any other medicine because it provides services, but it also has possible side effects. References ^ "Birth Control Info For Teens \| Does It Make You Gain Weight?" Control Info For Teens \| Does It Make You Gain Weight? Planned Parenthood Federation of America Inc., 2016. Web. 13 July 2016. Sheehy, Jessica. Pill: Still Safe, Effective, And Threatening After All These Years." Humanist 70.5 (2010): 4-5. Humanities Source. Web. 13 July 2016. "Control Pills May Cut Women's Odds for Uterine Cancer \| HealthyWomen." N.p., 4 Aug. 2015. Web. 13 July 2016. McCLAIN, DANI. Contraception Makes Teen Pregnancy Rates Plummet. So Why Are Some Women Still Skeptical? The Nation November 16, 2015 McCLAIN, DANI. (above) Toto, Christian. "Turns 50." Insight On The News 17.42 (2001): 31. Regional Business News. Web. 13 July 2016. (also see Interview with Nancy Gibbs, Executive Editor, Time Magazine; May 9, 2010)

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http://www.ancient.eu/article/835/

Birth control can provide many benefits. Birth control promotes safe sex because it can prevent unwanted pregnancies and make people more aware of what consequences can come from it. It also comes with some health benefits. Birth control can make periods lighter, reduce cramping , clear up acne , and it has even been proven to reduce the risk of certain cancers . Birth control can also help reduce the teenage pregnancy rate. After the IUD came out the teen pregnancy rate in Colorado alone was cut in half within 5 years . There are definitely some drawbacks to using birth control. It can cause users to gain weight, it can increase the possibility of having a stroke , and it can increase the chance in getting blood clots . Because there are so many different forms of birth control, it can make it safer for different women if they can find one that does not effect their health in a bad way. Birth control is just like any other medicine because it provides services, but it also has possible side effects.

References

^ "Birth Control Info For Teens | Does It Make You Gain Weight?" Control Info For Teens | Does It Make You Gain Weight? Planned Parenthood Federation of America Inc., 2016. Web. 13 July 2016.
Sheehy, Jessica. Pill: Still Safe, Effective, And Threatening After All These Years." Humanist 70.5 (2010): 4-5. Humanities Source. Web. 13 July 2016.
"Control Pills May Cut Women's Odds for Uterine Cancer | HealthyWomen." N.p., 4 Aug. 2015. Web. 13 July 2016.
McCLAIN, DANI. Contraception Makes Teen Pregnancy Rates Plummet. So Why Are Some Women Still Skeptical? The Nation November 16, 2015
McCLAIN, DANI. (above)
Toto, Christian. "Turns 50." Insight On The News 17.42 (2001): 31. Regional Business News. Web. 13 July 2016. (also see Interview with Nancy Gibbs, Executive Editor, Time Magazine; May 9, 2010)

Not sure what is with that first link? Also the rest of this is poorly referenced. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:29, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Is the sentence about family planning and culture necessary in the first paragraph?

It's supposed to be a straightforward explaination of what birth control is, not a definition and then references to 3 tangential articles relating to it. Dvalentine (talk) 19:14, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

An encyclopedia article should not merely contain "a straightforward explanation of what birth control is." Given the great variation in cultural attitudes towards birth control, and the implications of that variation, it seems eminently appropriate to mention that, and so provide context, within the opening paragraph. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:55, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes it is good to start with some general definitions.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

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Catholic Church on Contraception

Hello, the article at present only says the Church only accepts natural family planning but the Church also condemns artificial birth control as can be seen from reading humanae vitae. So I'll add this but if you have issues say on talk page

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.120.0 (talk) 11:46, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm glad that you're finally discussing it here. On the other hand, see WP:EVASION. Your block was short and it may be best to wait until it expires instead of possibly incurring other sanctions because of evasion. Your last edit has a typo but I'll let it stand for now for other editors to look at. My impression is that "The Roman Catholic Church officially only accepts natural family planning" already says "officially only accepts". When looking at the source, they do seem to disagree about the use of artificial birth control methods (they have various possible issues claims), but I see no unequivocal threat or punishment about it. It is also obvious that today many Catholics do use such methods in many countries and do not get excommunicated (that may still occur in some cases perhaps). — Paleo Neonate — 16:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Humanae vitae is we call a WP:PRIMARY source. You are interpreting it. That is not OK to do in WP, per WP:OR. Misplaced Pages is built by summarizing high quality secondary sources. If you want to see more content about the RC hierarchy's views on birth control, please propose such content here, and please cite the high quality, reliable sources that support the content. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT with regard to the article overall. Jytdog (talk) 22:34, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, sorry I should've cited a secondary Catholic source on this. As for not getting excommunicated, I dont think murderers are excommunicated (at least in the latin rite). Just because an offense doesnt lead to excommunication it doesnt mean its not a big sin (if your interested http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.120.0 (talk) 10:06, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

OK this is done. Jytdog (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

"gravely immoral" is not needed "immoral" is enough. Gravely means deathly which in this case it is not. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:14, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

@123.231.120.0: If you have an account, please avoid editing logged out. It is also important to discuss changes on the relevant article's talk page when being reverted (which you have finally done, but you probably should still have suggested the sentence here instead of still editing the article and getting reverted or corrected again). These issues were why you were temporarily blocked, so here is how to avoid the same problems in the future. By using a single account, not only will you avoid being considered socking, but it will make communication easier (instead of receiving messages on the talk pages of previous IP addresses no longer assigned to you, for instance). Thanks, — Paleo Neonate — 17:09, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Prof. Aaron E. Carroll:

Doubtful Science Behind Arguments to Restrict Birth Control Access (10 10 2017). Imho interesting - but I am no native speaker. Anyone there who is willing and able to bring it into the article ? thanks in advance --Neun-x (talk) 14:18, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Not sure it is notable for this article as basically US politics. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

My impression was the same when reading it. We have a society and culture section, but it already mentions religious and conservative views. —Paleo Neonate – 05:35, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

unsourced

User:Jytdog said trim unsourced, trim content based on old primary source. The statement is not unsourced. See section "Teaching the STM" in the source: "All the women who participated in the study were taught the STM by accredited teachers" Strangely, this important fact is not stated at all in the abstract of the study. --rtc (talk) 11:12, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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