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Facto Post – Issue 2 – 13 July 2017
Editorial: Core models and topics
Wikimedians interest themselves in everything under the sun — and then some. Discussion on "core topics" may, oddly, be a fringe activity, and was popular here a decade ago.
The situation on Wikidata today does resemble the halcyon days of 2006 of the English Misplaced Pages. The growth is there, and the reliability and stylistic issues are not yet pressing in on the project. Its Berlin conference at the end of October will have five years of achievement to celebrate. Think Wikimania Frankfurt 2005.
Progress must be made, however, on referencing "core facts". This has two parts: replacing "imported from Misplaced Pages" in referencing by external authorities; and picking out statements, such as dates and family relationships, that must not only be reliable but be seen to be reliable.
In addition, there are many properties on Wikidata lacking a clear data model. An emerging consensus may push to the front key sourcing and biomedical properties as requiring urgent attention. Wikidata's "manual of style" is currently distributed over thousands of discussions. To make it coalesce, work on such a core is needed.
Links
- WikiFactMine project pages on Wikidata, including a SPARQL library (in development).
- Fatameh tool for adding items on scientific papers to Wikidata, by User: T Arrow. It has made a big recent impact. Offline for maintenance as we go to press, it is expected back soon.
- As of July 2017, Zotero has a Wikidata translator. A personal Zotero library acts as an intermediary in managing and storing citation metadata.
- GLAM Newsletter June 2017, Wikidata report. This is a good monthly round-up to follow, and welcomes contributions.
- Exciting and Impressive! The Initiative for Open Citations (I4OC) was launched in April: Infodocket on the first three months.
- Olivia Solon in San Francisco, Why the net neutrality protest matters, opinion piece in The Guardian on 11 July.
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2017).
Administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, a new section has been added to the username policy which disallows usernames containing emoji, emoticons or otherwise "decorative" usernames, and usernames that use any non-language symbols. Administrators should discuss issues related to these types of usernames before blocking.
Technical news
- Wikimedians are now invited to vote on the proposals in the 2017 Community Wishlist Survey on Meta Wiki until 10 December 2017. In particular, there is a section of the survey regarding new tools for administrators and for anti-harassment.
- A new function is available to edit filter managers which can be used to store matches from regular expressions.
Arbitration
- Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is open until Sunday 23:59, 10 December 2017 (UTC). There are 12 candidates running for 8 vacant seats.
Miscellaneous
- Over the last few months, several users have reported backlogs that require administrator attention at WP:ANI, with the most common backlogs showing up on WP:SPI, WP:AIV and WP:RFPP. It is requested that all administrators take some time during this month to help clear backlogs wherever possible. It should be noted that AIV reports are not always valid; however, they still need to be cleared, which may include needing to remind users on what qualifies as vandalism.
- The Wikimedia Foundation Community health initiative is conducting a survey for English Misplaced Pages contributors on their experience and satisfaction level with Administrator’s Noticeboard/Incidents. This survey will be integral to gathering information about how this noticeboard works (i.e. which problems it deals with well and which problems it struggles with). If you would like to take this survey, please sign up on this page, and a link for the survey will be emailed to you via Special:EmailUser.
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Thank you
I apologise if this is a form of canvassing but it is in my mind more like counselling. I eppreciate the support you have given to date and so I'm now crying on your shoulder about the current rash of AfDs targeting my bios. As is quite obvious my area of interest is a school and its alumni and staff. I have no commercial interest in the subject and even if my entries are of borderline notability they are not trivial or even controversial. I'm very tired of the attack by one suspicious contributor who has done this all before in 2007 under a different guise. What really distresses me is the following that person has of two or three editors who seem to delight in tearing me down. In one case, where the subject is the long dead head of another school, it all comes down to this erroneous belief that a headmaster has no notibilty on Misplaced Pages. As for the hatred of mayors, public servants, all national instructions, and Australian and Imperial honours I dispair. Sorry to bother you but I'm feeling battered, bruised and sorry for myself. On a practical level what can be done to at least have these deletion discussions listed in the right category. Thanks again. Castlemate (talk) 22:05, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Castlemate: To answer your last question first; see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Deletion sorting. I'm sure this must be frustrating for you, and I do sympathise. Still, it seems likely that many of the articles will be kept. Any that are deleted can always be restyored, if and when new material, reinforcing their notability, comes to light. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:12, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: I really appreciate your clearheaded support as I am rattled. As of the latest comment on Aubrey Murphy (mayor) I now see 'more notable' has become a requirement. With Sandy Phillips we are now being asked to delete based on my arguments for delete. Castlemate (talk) 20:01, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- Having posted a photo of Murphy and the Queen today he has been deleted. I suppose the rationale for that will be "every MBE and mayor hangs out with the monarch". Now Sandy Phillips has gone. The administrator who has listed them in incorrect categories is the person who has closed them. Given the extraordinary personal attacks and institutional attacks I give up! Castlemate (talk) 07:18, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your support but I give up. The comments of the last few days suggest I am in the wrong community. I can't be bothered any more to deal with the attitude inherent in this attack. CheersCastlemate (talk) 18:48, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXL, December 2017
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Wikidata weekly summary #290
- Events/Press/Blogs
- Incoming: Wikidata workshop in Rennes, France, December 12th
- Incoming:Next Structured Commons IRC office hour will be on Tuesday, February 13, 2018, at 18:00 UTC.
- Past: Tech-talk about knowledge technologies, featuring Wikidata, DBpedia, and Histropedia at Jakarta Digital Valley, Jakarta, Indonesia on Dec 8, 2017. Slides are available at Slideshare link.
- My vision of a possible strategy. How could we change Wikidata’s core infrastructure to be able to scale better in the future? by ChristianKl.
- Using WikiData as a multi-lingual multi-dialectal dictionary for Arabic dialects - conference paper
- WikiCite 2017 report by Dario Taborelli and the organization team
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Structured Data on Commons: Participate in this survey to help the team understand which tools and functionalities are most important to the Commons and Wikidata communities
- QuickStatements now has a CSV-like import function (under "import commands")
- wikidata-cli now support dynamic SPARQL requests using JS files
- New wikidata-sdk function: wdk.getSitelinkUrl, a function to easily build URLs from Wikidata API sitelinks data
- Musik Lovers (de) is a project created during Coding da Vinci 2017 and reuses data from Wikidata about composers played in the Koncerthaus of Berlin
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: premiere type, name of the character role, Bechdel Test Movie List ID, Iowa Sports Hall of Fame ID, DORIS ID, Online Books Page author ID, ICTV virus genome composition, EK number, identity of object in context, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston object ID, squadron embarked, South Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee ID, trophy awarded, Württembergische Kirchengeschichte person ID, Merkelstiftung person ID, National Library of Brazil ID, AUSNUT 2011–13 Food Group ID, DVV player ID, UniProt journal ID, WAFL FootyFacts ID, watershed, Encyclopedia of Modern Ukraine ID, LKL player ID, LACMA ID, Art Institute of Chicago artwork ID, Queensland Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee ID
- Query examples:
- Place of birth of author with pages on the French Wikisource (source)
- Number of movies passing or failing the Bechdel test by year (source)
- 100 of the earliest 1000 works created by women on Wikidata with an image on Commons (source)
- Chemical entities, whom discovered them, and when (source)
- Sister-city and twin-city relationships of the largest cities (source)
- Cast age at date of film publication (source)
- Male saints that are the most used to name French cities after them (source)
- Development
- Add anchors to Special:ListDatatypes (phabricator:T181371)
- Data Types library has been integrated to Wikibase (phabricator:T180454)
- Investigate on the slow problems encountered on Wikidata (phabricator:T182322)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Tech News: 2017-50
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- URLs that link to sections on Wikimedia wikis with non-Latin scripts have looked like this:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/Википедия#.D0.98.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.8Finstead ofhttps://ru.wikipedia.org/Википедия#История. This has now been fixed on all wikis. Old links will still work. - A new tag marks edits where a redirect was created or removed. This still works when the editor writes something else in the edit summary. You can see the tags for example in the recent changes feed, article history, user contributions or on your watchlist.
- If you use Chrome on Android, you can now use the print to PDF button to create a PDF of an article.
- Filter by number of edits or filter by time range have been grouped on a same menu on the recent changes page if you use the new filters. The "View new changes since $1" link is now more prominent.
- Some of the web fonts that were provided by the Universal Language Selector extension are being removed. This is to reduce the load time on pages. The web fonts were added many years ago to help users read text in scripts which did not have fonts or had broken fonts. This is not the case any more. You can check the status page for a list of all web fonts and whether they are currently being used and especially for special requirements.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 December. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 December. It will be on all wikis from 14 December (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 December at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can discuss new or improved blocking tools with the Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team. They will work on building better blocking tools. Leave comments on the talk page.
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17:58, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello Pigsonthewing, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!
Backlog update:
- The new page backlog is currently at 12713 pages. Please consider reviewing even just a few pages each day! If everyone helps out, it will really put a dent in the backlog.
- Currently the backlog stretches back to March and some pages in the backlog have passed the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing some of them!
Outreach and Invitations:
- If you know other editors with a good understanding of Misplaced Pages policy, invite them to join NPP by dropping the invitation template on their talk page with:
{{subst:NPR invite}}. Adding more qualified reviewers will help with keeping the backlog manageable.
New Year New Page Review Drive
- A backlog drive is planned for the start of the year, beginning on January 1st and running until the end of the month. Unique prizes will be given in tiers for both the total number of reviews made, as well as the longest 'streak' maintained.
- Note: quality reviewing is extremely important, please do not sacrifice quality for quantity.
General project update:
- ACTRIAL has resulted in a significant increase in the quality of new submissions, with noticeably fewer CSD, PROD, and BLPPROD candidates in the new page feed. However, the majority of the backlog still dates back to before ACTRIAL started, so consider reviewing articles from the middle or back of the backlog.
- The NPP Browser can help you quickly find articles with topics that you prefer to review from within the backlog.
- To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Misplaced Pages talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.
If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. — TonyBallioni (talk) 20:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017
A new bibliographical landscape
At the beginning of December, Wikidata items on individual scientific articles passed the 10 million mark. This figure contrasts with the state of play in early summer, when there were around half a million. In the big picture, Wikidata is now documenting the scientific literature at a rate that is about eight times as fast as papers are published. As 2017 ends, progress is quite evident.
Behind this achievement are a technical advance (fatameh), and bots that do the lifting. Much more than dry migration of metadata is potentially involved, however. If paper A cites paper B, both papers having an item, a link can be created on Wikidata, and the information presented to both human readers, and machines. This cross-linking is one of the most significant aspects of the scientific literature, and now a long-sought open version is rapidly being built up.
The effort for the lifting of copyright restrictions on citation data of this kind has had real momentum behind it during 2017. WikiCite and the I4OC have been pushing hard, with the result that on CrossRef over 50% of the citation data is open. Now the holdout publishers are being lobbied to release rights on citations.
But all that is just the beginning. Topics of papers are identified, authors disambiguated, with significant progress on the use of the four million ORCID IDs for researchers, and proposals formulated to identify methodology in a machine-readable way. P4510 on Wikidata has been introduced so that methodology can sit comfortably on items about papers.
More is on the way. OABot applies the unpaywall principle to Misplaced Pages referencing. It has been proposed that Wikidata could assist WorldCat in compiling the global history of book translation. Watch this space.
And make promoting #1lib1ref one of your New Year's resolutions. Happy holidays, all!
Links
- WikidataCon: Giving more people more access to more knowledge, report by Peter Kraker of Open Knowledge Maps
- This is a story of my knowledge adventure in New Zealand moths via Wikicommons, Misplaced Pages and Wikidata, @SiobhanLeachman
- Wikidata and Arabic dialects, research paper, DOI: 10.1109/AICCSA.2017.115
- c:Commons:British Library/Mechanical Curator collection/georeferencing status, Mechanical Curator project on Commons hits 50K maps milestone
- Historical dataset on the provenance of Misplaced Pages text: Who wrote this?, by Tilman Bayer, WMF blogpost
- "Anyone can edit", not everyone does: Misplaced Pages and the gender gap (PDF), journal paper, Heather Ford and Judy Wajcman
- Alpha Zero’s "Alien" Chess Shows the Power, and the Peculiarity, of AI, MIT Technology Review, by Will Knight, December 8, 2017
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Reminder: WikiFactMine pages on Wikidata are at WD:WFM.
Books and Bytes - Issue 25
The Misplaced Pages Library
Books & Bytes
Issue 25, October – November 2017
- OAWiki & #1Lib1Ref
- User Group update
- Global branches update
- Spotlight: Research libraries and Wikimedia
- Bytes in brief
Arabic, Korean and French versions of Books & Bytes are now available in meta!
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The Signpost: 18 December 2017
- Special report: Women in Red World Contest wrap-up
- Featured content: Featured content to finish 2017
- In the media: Stolen seagulls, public domain primates and more
- Arbitration report: Last case of 2017: Mister Wiki editors
- Gallery: Wiki loving
- Recent research: French medical articles have "high rate of veracity"
- Technology report: Your wish lists and more Wikimedia tech
- Traffic report: Notable heroes and bad guys
Tech News: 2017-51
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 8 January 2018.
Problems
- When you import a page from another wiki the usernames of the users who edited the article on the wiki you imported it from are shown in the article history. This should link to the users on the original wiki. A script to fix this caused problems for Wikidata and German Misplaced Pages. It also created a large number of SUL accounts on wikis where editors had never edited.
- Some bot owners got email about their bots logging in from a new computer. If this is from one or a couple of wikis, you can turn these messages off in your preferences on those wikis until the problem has been solved. If not, you can report more about the problem in Phabricator.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week. There will be no new MediaWiki version next week either.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 December at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Files on Commons will have structured metadata in the future. The developers are now looking for examples of different kinds of metadata to make sure they are aware of them when they build prototypes for structured data on Commons. You can read more and help by giving examples of interesting media files.
- The Structured Commons team are making sure Commons work with structured data. If you regularly contribute to Commons and Wikidata you can answer a survey that helps the team prioritise the tools that are important for the Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey ends on 22 December. You can read more on Commons. You can also help the team decide on better names for "captions" and "descriptions". This ends on 3 January 2018.
- The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey has now ended. You can see the results. They decide what the Community Tech team will work on next year.
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15:27, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #291
- Discussions
- New request for comments: Mapping and improving the data import process
- Events/Press/Blogs
- Upcoming: Introduction to Wikidata for local OpenStreetMap community & others, Riga, Latvia, December 19th
- Upcoming: 34th Chaos Communication Congress, 27-30 December, Leipzig, Germany. The Wikidata team will be there
- Wikidata in Collections: Building a Universal Language for Connecting GLAM Catalogs
- A purposeful #strategy for #Wikidata
- WikidataCon: Giving more people more access to more knowledge by Peter Kraker
- Review of the Global Legislative Openness Week by MySociety
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- A script to add links to Wikidata on Twitter by Envlh
- Resolver can now open an item in tools/third-party sites listed on Q43649390#3303, using the
?project=attribute - for example https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/resolver.php?prop=P496&value=0000-0003-4402-5296&project=scholia - New edition of the Structured Data on Commons newsletter
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Wiki Aves bird ID, DACS ID, SAN ID, reservoir, CPDOC ID, Musée d'Orsay artwork ID, Coflein ID, The Numbers person ID, Wikimedia import URL, Flathub ID, partition type identifier, partition table type, ESCO Occupation ID, Welsh assembly ID, BSD Portal athlete ID, identity of subject in context, location of first performance, representation of, RCR number, ESCO skill ID, Philadelphia Museum of Art ID, Colorado Sports Hall of Fame ID, Welsh Chapels ID, photosphere image, Estonian Football Association team ID, The Peerage person ID, FoodEx2 code, Sherpa Juliet ID, Indian Financial System Code
- Query examples:
- Number of disasters by date and day of the week (source)
- Map with buildings by Brazilian architect Oscar Niemeyer (source)
- Properties most used for “no value” statements/qualifiers/references (source)
- Scientific papers with an animal credited as co-author (source)
- Image grid of what different cryptocurrencies are named after (source)
- Newest WikiProjects: Narration
- Newest database reports: Brigata del Decameron
- Development
- Additional languages for monolingual values got approved by the language committee: ami (Amis), bnn (Bunun), fos (Siraya), ppu (Papora / Hoanya), pwn (Paiwan), pyu (Puyuma), ssf (Thao), trv (Seediq / Taroko), uun (Pazeh) (see gerrit:374052, phab:T144272)
- More work on caching constraint results so we can enable the constraints checks for all logged-in users by default
- Fixed a bug when edit links showed up in diff views (phabricator:T181807)
- Final step towards being able to store statements on Forms of a Lexeme
- Disabled RDF support for Lexemes as the mapping isn't defined yet (phabricator:T182660)
- Adding some more smart tracking for Lua usage so we better know which properties from an item are used on a Misplaced Pages article even when the whole item is loaded (phabricator:T179923)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Project Life
Maybe we should start "WP:Project Life" so that we can add a flower onto the Talk page of every new article that doesn't involve any deaths? It all looks a bit juvenile, doesn't it? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- I'm concentrating now more on WP:Project Billy-no-mates, for dead decapitees (especially Argentine pirates, of course). Martinevans123 (talk) 23:08, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:11, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
- Martin, nice to see that the very day I picked a flower per month for a 2018 calender. friendly vision. - Andy, it's five years that you helped me, making me understand and joining me in missing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:11, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Coords precision
Six decimal positions is far too precise for this case, per WP:COORDPREC. Please self-revert. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:41, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
- Six DP is fine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:49, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Berg operas
Template:Berg operas has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 18:45, 22 December 2017 (UTC)