Misplaced Pages

User talk:Curly Turkey: Difference between revisions

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editNext edit →Content deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 12:53, 3 April 2018 editHijiri88 (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users37,390 editsm →IDHT← Previous edit Revision as of 20:45, 3 April 2018 edit undoNixon Now (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users5,587 edits →IDHTNext edit →
Line 267: Line 267:
::::: I doubt there's any significance, although apparently certain numbers have certain significance to Nazis or whatever (I doubt they actually counted them, though). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC) ::::: I doubt there's any significance, although apparently certain numbers have certain significance to Nazis or whatever (I doubt they actually counted them, though). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
::::::If he was a fan of British classic sci-fi ] would have made sense (or if it was American classic sci-fi), but yeah, it might just be random. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC) ::::::If he was a fan of British classic sci-fi ] would have made sense (or if it was American classic sci-fi), but yeah, it might just be random. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

With respect, Hiroki, the reason CT's ANI against me is a non-starter and is failing is not because I've put up walls of text - I've written a fraction of what he has - it's because the premise of his ANI is built on sand and he has no case. ] (]) 20:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Revision as of 20:45, 3 April 2018

I rarely check the email account I have set for Misplaced Pages. If you wish to email me, please notify me here on my talk page first.


Archive
Archives
The Signpost
24 December 2024

Overqualified?

Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs disqualifies me from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Did you know...

...that aikido, kendo, and to a lesser extent judo and karate all originated in Asia but are now practiced primarily by westerners? That's the impression I get from the (distribution of) photographs in our articles on them, anyway.

Seriously, it's really weird that the infobox of the aikido article lists famous practitioners who are all but two Japanese, and Japan has won the kendo world championships something like ten times as often as every other country combined, but our articles make it look like they have since the nineteenth century been primarily non-Japanese phenomena. The judo and karate articles are a little less problematic (primarily because few of the faces are visible), but the photos there come across as vanity picks taken by the parents of the subjects. (Yes, I know the faces are all concealed in the kendo article, but the European names of the subjects, who appear to be non-famous private individuals, are all visible.)

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 07:54, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

It's unsurprising. Most of those editing these articles—and taking and uploading images—would be Westerners, wouldn't they? Compounded by the fact that ja.wp perhaps is less active than it could be—from what I understand, de.wp is more active with a smaller population of speakers, for instance. That's not the type of "bias" that deserves finger-pointing, but still requires correction. I'm surprised you even mentioned karate, though—the only photo of non-Japanese in that one is from the Philippines.
I don't know how much of a photographer you are (I'm pretty shitty), but this could be an opportunity to not only correct the bias, but add some appropriate photos to the articles—say, a gallery of the various techniques. Or enlist a helpful friend willing to donate their work. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for January 7

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Matsudaira Katataka, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Mino (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.)

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 09:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

If I may take the liberty of some unsolicited advice...

As a completely uninvolved editor, can I make the suggestion that whatever your viewpoint, and however aggravated you might be, knock it off at EEng's Place. Rightly or wrongly you seem to be committed to a headlong charge at the line... Slow down, back off and cool down before you happen to cross it. Have an otherwise lovely night, --Jack Frost (talk) 09:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
ō! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:12, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 26

The Misplaced Pages Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 26, December – January 2018

  • #1Lib1Ref
  • User Group update
  • Global branches update
  • Spotlight: What can we glean from OCLC’s experience with library staff learning Misplaced Pages?
  • Bytes in brief

Arabic and French versions of Books & Bytes are now available in meta!
Read the full newsletter

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Misplaced Pages Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Your edits at Ran

That was quite a sequence of edits on the film Ran which you did. Any interest on your part to possibly review it if I do the GA nomination. JohnWickTwo (talk) 02:49, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

  • JohnWickTwo: I could maybe go over the text, but I doubt I could work up the motivation to do a proper GAN review. A couple things: the plot synopsis is really long. WP:FILMPLOT calls for a synopsis of between 400 and 700 words or readable prose—the current one is 1050 words. Another thing is that there are still a lot of unsourced statements—it'll never pass GAN with unsourced statements (except for the plot). Another: I don't know how best to handle this, but I don't think it's a good idea to gloss 乱 as "chaos", partly because the title is obviously supposed to have multiple meanings ("chaos" as well as "war"/"rebellion"). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:53, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Apologies

Hi Curly, I just wanted to offer a quick apology for this edit. I was moving too fast and misclicked the rollback button, I undid it but with errors like that I'd prefer to apologize personally. Best wishes.--Church 08:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Church—don't worry about it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:36, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians who like Black Mirror

Hey! I saw that you edited the article Black Mirror and thought maybe you would be interested in this new user category I created?-🐦Do☭torWho42 (⭐) 12:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Tamahime

If you want the page to be removed, ask for it.Xx236 (talk) 11:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

O Canada!

All these politically-motivated changes to the national anthem are getting under my skin. We should go back to Weir's original translation—gender-neutral and secular:

O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot love thou dost in us command.
We see thee rising fair, dear land,
The True North, strong and free;
And stand on guard, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
O Canada! O Canada!
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee.
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee.

... although cramming the three-syllable pa-tri-ot into two still sticks in my craw. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Suddenly steamrolled AFDs?

Hey, I was looking back at the contribs of one of my alt-accounts for reasons just now, and remembered this for the first time in a long time; it was 3-1 in favour of deletion for almost a full week, and then within a single day five more people suddenly showed up and all !voted to keep and a non-admin closes it having clearly not read the discussion (one of the unambiguous delete !votes became a "maybe" and another was completely ignored, and the timing made it anything but WP:SNOW). And this was apparently the result of a WikiProject that was at least in that case used for the specific purpose of canvassing keep !votes in AFDs: I don't recall ever encountering them again, but the project doesn't seem to have been formally retired, so if it still serves that function it really seems like a problem.

This reminded me a bit of what happened at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Korean influence on Japanese culture; the latter obviously shouldn't be re-opened given the great work you, Nish and others did to fix the article (at least to the point that WP:TNT no longer applies), but I'm really wondering about Mottainai. Apparently no one has done any work in the last five years to fix its problems or demonstrate how it is not a dictionary entry combined with a puff piece to promote a social programme, and I'm really not convinced the original deletion rationales don't apply (and the close was way out of line).

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeesh—I remember when I first came to Japan, it was going around that "there's no word for mottainai in English" ... do people still believe that? It's a meme I haven't heard since the 20th century, anyways. Scanning the article, it looks like horseshit to me, but that's problably mostly the fault of the sources. It'll survive another AfD unless you can be really convincing that the sources themselves are full of shit.
I didn't do any "great work" on the "Korean influence" article—I just did a lot of copyediting. I doubt I ever looked at any of the sources. I was less aware of how bad the nationalists could get with articles like this—I definitely think there should be an article on the topic (in an ideal world), but had no idea what a headache maintenance of it would be.
I lean pretty "inclusionist", even with the bullshit it brings. I might make an exception for political articles—they're all hopeless timesinks. Nuke 'em all. Misplaced Pages's not the place to inform yourself on the Israel–Palestine conflict. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:09, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
The night is dark and full of terrors. And terrible shocks. As in ... wow: I nominated an article for deletion five years ago under a sock account I had forgotten about, the AFD was steamrolled due to inappropriate canvassing on a forum that was dedicated to such inappropriate canvassing (which I don't remember noticing at the time) and is still active, and then when I consider asking our most prominent deletionist (whom I'd defended in a bunch of "This user nominated my article for deletion; they should be blocked" ANI threads) if they're familiar with the problem, I find out that a month ago they were blocked for undisclosed socking going back the better part of a decade. I mean -- what!? The whole world has gone topsy-turvy. Is this Star Trek? I'm going to go get crucified upside-down now. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Sorry. Our Acts of Peter article is garbage, but I didn't know that, and I figured linking it would make the meaning of my reference clear. Basically, Peter decides to be crucified upside-down because Adam entered the world head-first, and since Adam's day Sin has been in the world and turned everything on its head, so only by being upside-down can Peter see everything as it is meant to be. Or something along those lines. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:43, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
I can't figure out who the sock is ... ?
You won't get the article deleted, even if it is pure bull. It even cites a scholarly article that flatly claims "The word “mottainai” is a part of the Japanese religious and cultural heritage" (even if that has zero to do with the word's contemporary, everyday usage). The idea that it's "a cultural practice" is hard to swallow, but—it's "sourced"! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, my latter two comments above had nothing to do with the mottainai article. In fact my first comment above was about weird AFD closures, where there is a clear consensus to delete, until a whole bunch of people suddenly show up and !vote keep, and only then is the discussion closed (by a non-admin who clearly should never close AFDs where the result is anything other than SNOW keep).
Anyway, Daijirin implies the term has a (basically unrelated) Shintoist (not Buddhist) sense that means defiling a sacred space or object, but honestly for all I know (for all Daijirin tells me since it doesn't actually mention Shinto) that's actually a Jewish sense that was used in early Japanese bible translations, since Leviticus and Numbers are full of that stuff. And then we get into the whole "Ancient Israelite religion and Japanese Shinto both have ritual impurity concepts; the Japanese must be descended from the Lost Ten Tribes" mess...
The sock is SwisterTwister (talk · contribs), and I was really surprised and awed at what had happened there, since ST had been a mainstay of the community (particularly AFDs and the various ANI threads people started about him as a result) for years and had a basically clean block log. My having discovered this within an hour or so of my discovering the ARS was really shaking me (to the point where I actually lost sleep; in order to get an extra thirty minutes in bed this morning I had to grab an 朝マクド on the way to work).
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:09, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Japanese-Jewish common ancestry theory—!!!—I see so many MoS fixes I desparately want to make in this article, but ... but ... I don't want my name showing up in the edit history ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
You're right to be careful. I just Googled my own username and found out that as having once made some minor edit to an article on the alt-right, and another on a Twilight film (?), I am now being credited as one of the co-authors of "books" on those topics. I'd hate to think about people who edit under their real names... Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I could see how my assertion that I'm on your talk at all is merely because of my interest in how things actually are done here might be taken with some skepticism, but I have to say this made my blood run cold. I hope you don't mind me asking, how prevalent would you say this kind of thing is? Am I just being naive here? What the actual fuck? Gabriel syme (talk) 02:10, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
There are companies out there that put on print-on-demand books of Misplaced Pages content. They come up in Google Books all the time: Here's an example. They sell them on Amazon, etc. It's all totally legal and everything, as long as they credit the contributors. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 02:21, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, ok, wow. Did I accidentally choose a 'safe' username because the top hundred hits are always going to be about literature? I guess I had a vague implicit idea of printing articles out, with the, yeah, naive notion that it was a small scale thing, mostly used by educators. But damn I should've known there'd be an industry mining it for filthy lucre, why not? It just has terrifying implications. Uh, has it ever ended up in a situation where mass puppets show up, rewrite articles, and then go to press with something that blatantly violates what the community is working towards? This is why I shamelessly scan people's talk pages. Gabriel syme (talk) 02:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I haven't heard of it, but I'd be surprised if it never happened. And you'd still get your name listed as a contributor to such filth! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 02:58, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
@Curly Turkey: If it was something you were interested in, you could email me the gist of the non-controversial fixes you want made and when I had time I could go in and take care of it? I hope that's not out of line in any way. Gabriel syme (talk) 19:23, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, but what do you mean? Fixes to what? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:31, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Oh, my bad. I meant like the MOS stuff at Japanese-Jewish common ancestry theory and similar. I've found that I really enjoy sweeping the dust bunnies out of dark corners. unsourced fishing advice, even. This is one of the strangest things I've ever involved myself with and I want to see where it goes. Gabriel syme (talk) 03:56, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Oh! I was just exaggerating about that—I'm not actually afraid anything would happen to me. I just find that kind of article ... icky ...
It looks like someone named Hairy Dude just made the corrections yesterday that I would've, anyways. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
HA! Ok that's fair, I've been noticing that I'm pretty thickheaded about humor, exaggeration, and low-key irony here. It's my first real attempt at online communication since I was a teenager and that's definitely part of my learning curve. You've been really helpful, if you have a few spare moments, would you mind taking a look at this online worksheet I made to help onboarding people at this art+feminism wikithon signup I'm working on Saturday? I'd really appreciate any comments. Gabriel syme (talk) 04:26, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
It looks fine at first glance, but did you mean for "Misplaced Pages Manual of Style" to link to Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Contents rather than Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
I absolutely did. I was relying on the base MOS for a while and then I found that table of contents and that is exactly what I needed, neatly categorized. Whoever built that needs some praise. Gabriel syme (talk) 04:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC) PS: What's the trick to make this wrap back around to the left when we are creeping off the page like this? PPS: I guess my keyboard makes a nonstandard hyphen? There must be a way to fix that right?

You can use {{od}} ("outdent"). Your keyboard makes a standard hyphen, but what you're looking for is an en dash (see MOS:DASH). It's pretty hairsplitting, especially outside of article space—feel free to revert it if you don't like it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

That is an hairsplittingly strange issue, but I get it. My gut instinct is always to standardize something that seemingly minor, hence the PS. Thanks for the wrapping trick! Gabriel syme (talk) 05:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC) Although, now that I'm looking at it, it made this all less readable...
This just went in my pocket as a very compelling argument for me to get people into editing. It's, uh, just alot more actually important that most of the internet. Thanks. Gabriel syme (talk) 03:15, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
@Gabriel syme: The worst part, though, is that under Misplaced Pages's free license (the same one that allows those books to be published), if someone plagiarizes text and adds it to an article, they are essentially releasing someone else's copyrighted material for anyone to reprint free of charge. This is super-serious and is the main reason COPYVIO text and images need to be deleted and removed from public view, and why it's really concerning that even "long-time editor " don't "get" it. Checking that shit is extremely tedious work, and doing it without the prior consent of either the community or ArbCom essentially leaves one open to being accused of "hounding". Regardless of the actual definition of hounding. I'd be willing to bet that well over 70% of "hounding" accusations are either (a) hypocritical attacks made by bonafide hounds or (b) attempts to shoot down scrutiny on counter-policy actions by either the counter-policy editors or teir friends. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:24, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Repinging User:Gabriel syme. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:25, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
@Hijiri88: Well, yeah, that looks like one of the most frustrating tasks imaginable. I guess I never put much critical thought into the potential for abuse represented by the tools, license, and policy here. That might be an area I'd be interested in once I've gotten a solid handle on things and have more time to devote. As far as hounding, wow, I really could have used that diff a few months back. I'll admit I might have been letting myself be baited but the editor was just obnoxiously following me to multiple areas they'd never touched. Thanks for the reply. Gabriel syme (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
!!! ... now I'm going to have to try that ... I did once come across a quote from my Comics article in a book. Not "one of those 'books'", but an actual book. That felt good! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
... and the first one that comes up is Death Conspiracy Theories. What in the flying fuck did I edit! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:12, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
...I also noticed some Redditor expressing sympathy for a certain banned editor's (not Til Eulenspiegel's) remarks comparing me to a Nazi, based on a very specific date range during which I made the mistake of fixing some links in an article on a neo-Nazi website roughly a week after I made a bunch of edits to Norse mythology articles and articles on characters in the novels of R. A. Salvatore (with names like "Wulfgar") back in 2005. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:59, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Were you editing any child porn articles that week? If not, you'll just have to try harder to discredit yourself next time. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

"Show Preview" button

Without wanting to be pedantic, and it's likely that you are already fully aware of this, but for the sake of those who check diffs, it would make a "diff" if the number of changes to any given section that appear in the article history and on our watchlists could be minimized....I try to remember to use the "Show Preview" button until I am sure that the changes are what I want. For example, your group of 21 edits to Singular they would have appeared as 10-11 edits instead, much easier to look through. I have sinned against this myself often enough, and it is just a suggestion... Clean Copy 00:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

  • Clean Copy: I understand, but I often make these edits while I'm between real-life tasks—when I'm called away, I save whatever I happen to have finished. Notice that the edits were made over a two-hour period. But something else to keep in mind (in my experience) is that large numbers of changes in a single edit make for a mess when one needs to revert a small number of the changes, and for this reason I've advised people in the past to break up large edits into smaller chunks. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:37, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
OK, good points. Clean Copy 01:38, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

ANIの本音

"I really do not care if your disgusting personal attack contributed to the 'problem' or not." And here is one of the biggest problems with ANI—so many participants don't actually give two shits if someone's contributing to a problem, they just want drahmah and lots-o'-blocks. Meanwhile, we've got editors who spend years disrupting both article space and talk-page discussions that ANI time and time again refuses to deal with ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

BRD

Wait for consensus to form. There's no timeline. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Revert needed

Hi, will you revert this please? I'm out of reverts. ―Mandruss ☎ 23:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Similar names

I've been rewriting our article on Akazome Emon, with my main source being an article by Hiroko Saito. Thing is, the previous version was apparently (it had no inline citations) based on writings by Hiroaki Sato and Earl Miner, Hiroko Odagiri. Nothing really important for the project; I just thought it was an amusing coincidence. :P Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

I've come across worse—articles that have confused people because they have the same romanized name. I came across that at Melo Imai—her father's name is Takashi Narita (成田 隆史), which linked to Takashi Narita (成田 貴志)—and (probably through citogenesis), I came across an English-language article stating here father was an Olympic volleyball player.
I thought her story was interesting enough to give it a decent expansion, but almost all the sources I came across were (perhaps unsurprisingly) tabloid trash I couldn't bring myself to cite. If she continues to win championships, I might come across better sources. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:09, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Might as well post this here

I really wish that talk page wasn't such a hot bed at the moment and we could engage in friendly if slightly off-topic banter freely. Anyway...

one could argue it's not even particularly Japanese This reminded me of a humorous Facebook post an American friend of mine once made having just bought a box ("tube"?) of cookies in a konbini; inside the box was a plastic wrapper; when he opened the wrapper, each cookie was individually wrapped; and this wasn't even the kind of omiyage where they were meant to be distributed to coworkers and left on the desks of absentees, but a snack suitable for one or at most two people. "Japan has a unique aversion to wastefulness" is like "Japan has a unique tendency to take train schedules with a pinch of salt" in terms of its hilarious anachronism.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

when I first came here (in 1998), when I'd go to a konbini and buy a single item for immediate consumption, when they'd start putting it in a bag, I'd tell them I didn't want the bag. The clerk would always look so flustered—they had no idea how to deal with not putting the item in a bag! We've come a long way from there to today, where every supermarket now charges for plastic bags and encourages people to bring their own mai bakku.
With that in mind, I was schocked—shocked—to discover a few years ago that Canada—Canada, the pioneer in blue boxes—was the world's leader in waste per capita. I don't know if it's that Canada has changed, but it sure felt like Japan was far more wasteful when I first moved here, with its double- and triple-wrapped everything and tendency to a strong preference to new everything over used anything (a lot fewer pawn shops and older cars on the roads). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:18, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Putative non-count nouns

You posted in more than one place the claim that anime and manga have no (distinct) plural forms, because they are non-count nouns, not because they are Japanese words. Strictly speaking, I think, this is a non-sequitur, because non-count nouns still have plural forms: "milks", "cheeses", and so on. I do not believe there exists a non-count noun which cannot be plural. Even putting that aside, I realise I have no experience of the real use of anime or manga in English. I suppose I regard them mostly as genres, in which case they are uncountable, but given a マンガ本, does one not say "There's a manga"... in which case "There's another one" means that there are two manga(s), and this is definitely not a non-count usage.

Thanks for your work on Mottainai; I wil try to look at it some time. The grammatical description has been cleaned up, but it could simple describe the word as an adjective, and point out that (like any other adjective) it can be used attributively or predicatively, and automatically forms a free-standing exclamation. But it's difficult to know how to approach this: what does "adjective" mean, for example: there are any number of different sets of terminology, and I have a (real, smelly-paper) book that includes the claim that "Japanese has no adjectives". Imaginatorium (talk) 07:49, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Imaginatorium: People say "There's a manga"/"There's an anime"? Maybe usage has evolved, but I'm not familiar with it. Do people who say "There's a manga" say "There are two manga"? "There are two anime"? If they do, this is far too recent usage to be used as an example like geisha or ninja (which are very well established).
"I do not believe there exists a non-count noun which cannot be plural."—economics, politics, etc.
Re: Mottainai: I find every book I come across uses different terms for Japanese grammar (in English, anyways). I don't think we need to go into much detail on the grammatical usage, since it's not a linguistics article. I wouldn't do more than link to Japanese equivalents of adjectives. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:04, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

French : Maus is now a good article

Hello Curly Turkey,
I've seen you're interested in Maus. With the help from other French Wikipedians, the article is now a GA in French (fr:Discussion:Maus/Bon_article). I thought you'd like the news.
Regards, --Bédévore 23:38, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for your improvements at Tenpō Tsūhō. Donald Trung (talk) 09:49, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Face-palm

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:29, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Ha! I'd say this is why it's important to indicate vowel length, but then there're actually male names that end with ko.
Of course, the real problem is the OR—not only are those unacceptable sources, but none of them (that I can see) support the statement "Although most artists are men, a number of female artists have emerged recently". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:51, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
I was initially afraid to check, but Gryffindor (talk · contribs)'s original article actually did have an apparently-passable source that verified the content, which was removed. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:07, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Okay, then it was just whoever added Suikō Buseki to the list. Easy mistake to make, but even then people shouldn't be adding this kind of thing to a list just because they found a name somewhere. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:59, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Suzukake Nanchara

Hello. Even though not mandatory, it is a good policy to notify about a move review to the editor who closed the move. But when you falsely accused me of confirming that I "closed on a mere show of hands and "merely stated what a lot of editors expressed" re WP:COMMONNAME." At that time you should have notified me, or at least pinged me there. You quoted me completely out of context. I never said "I merely counted the show of hands". Here is the special:diff/830009227 of that particular comment. I specifically said No matter what the reasoning behind it is, it is clear that the community wanted the page to be moved. I still support my close, if you think the consensus was in favour of not moving; then please free to open a move review. That is consensus. Now, if possible, kindly let me know how can my comment be interpreted as "I closed on a mere show of hands"? Also, kindly let me know what your definition of consensus is.

In case you dont remember the conversation, here is the link to archive: User talk:Usernamekiran/Archives/5#Suzukake_Nanchara. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

  • The flying fuck is this shit? I told you beforehand there'd be a review, and there was a notice right after the review—not that it makes a lick of difference, as you weren't being reported for anything. The consensus is that you fucked up—you refused to acknowledge it then, and you refuse to acknowledge it now that the community has made it official. Jesus fucking Christ. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:16, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

This is my last communication with you.

  1. If you have any evidence to prove that I closed on a mere show of hands; then kindly provide it.
  2. If you remove this entire thread, or ignore this in any way; it will be clear that you made a false accusation.

In any case, I will not contact you again. —usernamekiran(talk) 20:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

You admitted to it yourself. Now fuck off. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:15, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, you just admitted you made a false accusation you sorry sack of meat. —usernamekiran(talk) 01:18, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
You either have a clear lack of understanding of plain English, or you are pretending to be a retard. So far you've failed to provide any evidence, instead you've replied with offensive, and/or profane comments. From now on, I am going to ignore you per dont feed the trolls. So say what you like. —usernamekiran(talk) 01:48, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
"In any case, I will not contact you again" ... just fuck off with the trolling horseshit and PAs. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:54, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

IDHT

Hey, given this I'm increasingly surprised that ANI thread didn't lead to a block. I suspect it might have something to do with your pulling a Hijiri2015-style goof and getting drawn into extensive (TLDR) back-and-forths (I also noticed your ongoing ANI thread about another editor -- you seem to be in the right there as well, but I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to read through it). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:03, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

You're right—too much to read, so who would want to get involved? I suspect that many report subjects are well aware of that and game the system with their walls of text and provocation (and FUD, and outright lies—did you know that six of my five blocks were for PAs?). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:09, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Hit the nail on the head there. The worst part, though, is that guys like us who get suckered into it then look like we are the ones trying to filibuster the discussions (even if we were the ones who opened them). Our Doctor Who-watching friend and a bunch of the comic book mafiosi are among those who seem to be quite expert at it. The weird part, though, is when they filibuster their own threads, apparently because they know they will get BOOMERANGed if the threads proceed as normal, they knew this in advance, and only opened the ANI threads to intimidate whoever they are disputing with. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Bad enough with that shit, but I'd promised myself to stay away from political articles, and here I've gotten sucked in. And it's this POV-pushing-from-all-sides horseshit that convinced me to stay away in the first place. Political articles are hopeless, endless timesinks. Even the Momokuro shit is over politics! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
You think the number 28 has any significance? I have no idea why this section was titled as it was. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:47, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
I doubt there's any significance, although apparently certain numbers have certain significance to Nazis or whatever (I doubt they actually counted them, though). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
If he was a fan of British classic sci-fi 42 would have made sense (or 47 if it was American classic sci-fi), but yeah, it might just be random. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

With respect, Hiroki, the reason CT's ANI against me is a non-starter and is failing is not because I've put up walls of text - I've written a fraction of what he has - it's because the premise of his ANI is built on sand and he has no case. Nixon Now (talk) 20:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC)