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Hi, this removed content is one of my previous edits, but i failed inserting an infobox correctly, so i deleted my previous attempt to try again... Thanks for your comment. Wikaviani (talk) 13:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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My bafflement
- Here is the first of the pieces of text from your comments which puzzled me:
- "You say Dallal is not a mathematician, but Robertson and O'Connor are prominent mathematicians, do you think they misread Rashed too ???"
- "You say Dallal is not a mathematician, but Robertson and O'Connor are prominent mathematicians, do you think they misread Rashed too ???"
- This is obviously not a statement, but it does look to me very much like a rhetorical question, carrying an implication that if what I said about Dallal were correct, I should logically hold the same opinion about O'Connor and Robertson. That doesn't follow, because, unlike Dallal, they have nowhere—as far as I'm aware—committed the error of mischaracterising algebraic geometry as "the study of curves by means of equations".
- David Wilson (talk · cont) 12:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
@David J Wilson: Hi David,
First of all, thanks for your message.
Actually, it seems that we have a point of disagreement here. According to me, the study of curves by means of equations is a part of algebraic geometry but since it's not the only one, it can not be used to characterize this field.
As you said on the Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi's talk page, Robertson and O'Connor are in agreement with Rashed when he writes"...it represents an essential contribution to another algebra which aimed to study curves by means of equations, thus inaugurating the beginning of algebraic geometry".
Since the study of curves by means of equations inaugurates the begnning of algebraic geometry, then this study is part of this field.
To support my above statement, here's how St Andrews defines algebraic geometry:
http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Glossary/algebraic_geometry.html
"Algebraic geometry studies curves, surfaces and their higher dimensional equivalents defined by systems of polynomial equations and relates their properties to the algebraic properties of the polynomial rings that they determine"
While of course, this definition includes modern notions, the first part clearly states that this field studies curves (geometry) defined by systems of polynomial equations (algebra).
Since you have nicely contributed to the article on Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi with a detailed description of his work in mathematics, i assume you have some knowledge in this area so that you can easily understand the definition given above.
English is not my mother tongue, however, i hope to have been clear...
Wikaviani (talk) 17:25, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I was a professional mathematician for 40 years (now retired). While I certainly cannot claim to be an expert on algebraic geometry, I have attended an informal course on the subject conducted by one of my former colleagues. One of the books normally sitting on my bookshelf, but now lying next to me as I write, is Miles Reid's Undergraduate Algebraic Geometry.
- Above you write:
- "Actually, it seems that we have a point of disagreement here. According to me, the study of curves by means of equations is a part of algebraic geometry but since it's not the only one, it can not be used to characterize this field."
- I'm not sure I've understood this correctly. When you write "According to me, ...", are you referring to yourself? Since the sentence is not enclosed in quotation marks, that is the natural way to read it, and the way I initially read it, with some puzzlement, because if that is your position, then on this point it would seem to me that we're in furious agreement. I refer you to a very similar statement I made on the talk page of the article on Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi:
- "To clarify this, algebraic geometry most certainly is not "the study of curves by means of equations", as two of your sources have mischaracterised it. While the study of curves by means of equations is one essential ingredient of algebraic geometry it is not the only one, and does not, by itself, constitute doing algebraic geometry."
- It later occurred to me that when you wrote "According to me, ...", you might have been trying to restate my position—which it is—as something you disagreed with. Please let me know if that is the case, and I will further clarify why I hold that position.
- As for the rest of what you have written above, I see nothing there that I would disagree with.
- David Wilson (talk · cont) 23:13, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
I am not an expert in algebraic geometry either (my PhD was on stochastic calculus, Itô's formula with generalized Hurst exponent and generalized heat equation to non-integer derivation orders...) so that what i said you above is effectively my opinion and what i remember from my university courses. To make it simple, studying curves by means of equations implies doing algebraic geometry BUT doing algebraic geometry does not necessarily imply studying curves by means of equations (in other words, a cat is a feline but a feline is not necessarily a cat...). This is why i gave you the example of Euclid and geometry on Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi's talk page. If you agree with what i wrote just above, then we don't have any disagreement on this point. Wikaviani (talk) 14:39, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: 2nd Harran (May 9)
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Are you taking a specific incident, a 609 BCE attack on the Medes in Harran, and assigning it a name of your own creation?
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- Hi, i have other sources for this : , i quote, page 192 : "But in 610 Median and Babylonian troops drove Ashur-uballit away from Harran, and, after a failed attempt in 609 to reconquer the city with Egyptian help he disappeared from the scene. The Assyrian state had finally ceased to exist."
- This battle is not given a name, so that i generically called the draft "2nd Harran" to distiguish it from the fall of Harran the previous year. Since it ended the Assyrian state, thi battle seems to have been a major engagement but the lack of sources is due to the fact that Assyrian annals record no more after 610 BC. With more time i may find more reliable sources for this battle or just include a quote about it in the Medo-Babylonian war against Assyrian Empire. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 05:20, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- @MatthewVanitas: I added 3 other sources for the draft. Your opinion would be welcome. If this submission is accepted, i will further expand the article. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 11:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
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- Hi Wario-Man, thanks for letting me know about this, but i confess that i don't know very well many of wikipedia tools and it will take a moment before i find the time to understand them well enough to use them. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 22:58, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Well, if you need any help or have questions, feel free to contact me via my talk page. Good luck! --Wario-Man (talk) 06:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Wario-Man, i activated Twinkle thanks to your link and this gadget seems great for fighting disruptive edits (gives you some Rollback tool for that, which is very easy to use).---Wikaviani (talk) 15:43, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- You're welcome. --Wario-Man (talk) 18:17, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Wario-Man, i activated Twinkle thanks to your link and this gadget seems great for fighting disruptive edits (gives you some Rollback tool for that, which is very easy to use).---Wikaviani (talk) 15:43, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Well, if you need any help or have questions, feel free to contact me via my talk page. Good luck! --Wario-Man (talk) 06:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
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Binomial theorem
Please note that there were no “first” claims in my revision at all – it said “probably contributed” (the same phrase used by Struik). Most “first” claims tend to be high-flown panegyric. As I understand it, based on direct evidence, Karaji did it up to the fourth degree. It took another 100-150 years for al-Samawal to ascribe to Karaji a way of generating the triangle of coefficients. Khayyam claimed to have personally discovered the law for the expansion (presumably the binomial theorem). His work predates al-Samawal's publication. Since neither Khayyam's nor Karaji's books have been recovered, any definite conclusions about the extent of their works are conjectural. --Telementor (talk) 07:42, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Telementor, thanks for your message. My edit had several reasons. First, according to Katz and Rashed, Al-Karaji stated the theorem (for the first time) : Victor J. Katz and Karen Hunger Parshall : "However, algebra advanced in other respects. Around 1000, al-Karaji stated the binomial theorem" and The developpement of Arabic Mathematics : Between Arithmetic and Algebra - R. Rashed, Page 63. More, even if Al-Karaji's version was stated for a fixed explicit exponent, his method allowed to expand this to a random exponent (he used a form of mathematical induction to prove his result, and as far as i know, he made it for a greater exponent than four). Finally, as i said in my edit summary, i was not able to find a quote in your source about a (hypothetical) contribution of Khayyam to this theorem. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 21:47, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
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Al-Biruni
Biruni's background was discussed on talk page several times. Biruni's native language was Khwarezmian. If you read Talk:Al-Biruni#Consensus_for_the_lead_section:_older_revision_(his_ethnicity), you will see why we changed Persian to Iranian. --Wario-Man (talk) 08:05, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Wario-Man, you're completely right. As you can see, first i reverted the IP, but since they said that "Persian" was in the sources, i self-reverted and appologized. After that, i thought a little more about that and i decided to write "Iranian" beacause being Persian implies being Iranian while being Iranian does necessarily mean being Persian. Therefore i wanted to change it again in the article but you made it first and i thank you for that. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 09:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- It was Persian-Khwarezmian or Khwarezmian-Persian before our changes. If you read Iranica article, his background was related to Afrighids (non-Persian Iranian dynasty). Calling him Persian is not 100% wrong because he was related to Persian culture but it's not accurate per our sources. It's better to look at talk page and its archive when you are dealing with topics like this. It will give you a good image of article revision history. --Wario-Man (talk) 09:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, i usually look at the talk pages, but as you can see, that edit was my last one yesterday and i had not enough time to read the talk page, this was my mistake. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 09:59, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Interfering with comments posted by other editors on talk pages
I draw your attention to the first paragraph of WP:TALKO and advise you that if you violate this policy again, you will be reported. --Juicy Oranges (talk) 18:58, 29 May 2018 (UTC)