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No problem friend. Don't feel some guilt or something like that. I've just done some maintenance. Btw, I am watching your professional edits for some time and must say you look like an expert for World War II. Do you study a history or something similar ? - Darwinek 19:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I feel the same satisfaction creating and editing all these articles. Surely it will help many people. I believe Misplaced Pages will become really a huge encyclopedia in a few years. It just started in 2001, I am here since 2004 and must say it's every year twice larger. Anyway, if you will need some help or assistance in future (I am an admin), just let me know. :) - Darwinek 07:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Shut out

Hi, I saw your comment at Talk:Michael_Crichton#POV_that_Crichton_is_wrong and was wondering if you'd like to participate in WikiProject on shoring up one of Misplaced Pages's great weaknesses (how ideas can be "ganged-up" on and effectively shut-out), as you put it there.

If I can drum up enough interest, I'll start a project like WikiProject horse training, but hopefully it will attract more participants, last longer, and have greater effect. --Uncle Ed 14:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Ooops

Forgot to say thanks for all your help on sources, etc - which was why I awarded the barnstar in the first place! John Smith's 18:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Masutatsu Oyama

A user seems bent on reverting to a version repeating unnecessarily that he is Korean. I don't see why his nationality needs be in the first line at all. I've reverted to an intro I made which I think is a lot nicer; but this person seems to show up each night and revert it. Since you also seemed interested in making a neutral article, I thought you might be able to share your input, or help improve it even better. The other party's version also (unfortunately) doesn't seem to flow as well (in my opinion)... I have a feeling this individual is alone in his opinion, and is going against the consensus. If you could watch this page I'd appreciate it. —LactoseTI 05:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Then you must also want to change the Funakoshi Gichin introduction into the following more "neutral" version.

"Gichin Funakoshi (船越 義珍 Funakoshi Gichin, 1868–1957) was a karate master who formally introduced karate to the Japanese mainland in 1921. He was born in Okinawa, but spent most of his life living in Japan."

71.124.36.224 05:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

LactoseTI, response is on your talk page. By the way ``71.124.36.224``, if I may use your name in such a casual fashion, please sign-in and use your user account name when you leave such insightful, non-petulant, and non-passive-aggressive comments on editor's discussion pages. Cla68 11:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Linda Ham

Glad to hear that you felt my (very minor) edits were useful. I'm afraid, though, that I don't have any inside information about Linda Ham. Although I'm keenly interested in NASA and particularly in Mission Control, I don't have any sources of information apart from the usual, which you seem to have covered very well already. You might well be able to find the answer to those sort of questions by simply contacting NASA's Public Affairs Office, though.

The article is shaping up very well. I might pitch in a little more here and there if it wouldn't be stepping on your toes. MLilburne 14:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Was just wondering whether you happen to have saved a copy of the biographical article by Michael Cabbage. Alas, it seems to have disappeared into the paid section of the site, and I could do with taking a look at it. MLilburne 16:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. I've managed to find the article (and a few more where that came from) via my university library. I could e-mail them to you as PDFs if that would be useful. MLilburne 13:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Article for peer review

Hi, I have nominated the article Axis naval activity in Australian waters for peer review and Kirill has suggested that I ask you to have a look at the article. If you've got the time I'd really appreciate any feedback. Thanks, --Nick Dowling 00:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your comments. --Nick Dowling 10:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk page comment

Hello. Thanks for you comment on my talk page, but as you can see from LactoseTI's comment, after reviewing the contributions from IP in question, he admits he "jumped the gun a bit", which is fair enough. While I do understand the fustration of vandal fighting it is important to ensure that good faith editors (whether logged in or not) are not caught up in the crossfire simply because they edit from similar geographic areas. However, my main point at the time was to correct the misunderstanding that uncited material must be tagged and should not be removed, as that was the basis of his warnings to the IP in question. While some editors choose to tag uncited claims, they are not required to do so, and in the case of uncited critism about living people, it must be removed. That is why I removed the section you tagged in Michael Crichton, as tagging was not the correct option in this case. WP:BLP is very clear on this matter - if it's critism about a living person and uncited, remove it. When it comes to non-living people, the rule isn't as absolute, but straight removal of uncited material is still perfectly acceptable hence why I pointed out that the warning someone for taking such actions (which are justified by one of the core policies) wasn't the correct thing to do. I tend towards the stricter side of requiring immediate references, only adding {{fact}} tags to minor details, but as I pointed out to LactoseTI, even for those taking a less strict view, tagging must only be a temporary measure, because in the end, it must boil down to one thing - "cite or remove". Regards, MartinRe 12:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Savo Island

Congratulations on your sixth (sixth!) featured article! Here's some champagne to celebrate the occasion! ;-) Kirill Lokshin 02:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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Japanese links

Hi, Cla68. Do you need to add the links to the Japanese articles, when the interwiki links are already there: "ja:第三次ソロモン海戦", etc. And why as external links? —wwoods 07:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Help re WWII Aleutian Islands (Alaska) Campaign

Hi, Cla88. I need some help with the detail regarding Amchitka's role in WWII, and Kirill suggested that you might be able to help. I've found two sources, but these contradict each other slightly, giving different names for the people involved. Can you help with this? Thanks, Jakew 14:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your comments. I've now revised the coverage of the section on WWII, and I'm now much happier with it. The main problem I had was that the sources were giving different names for the makers of certain decisions, but I've decided to omit names. I like to keep some human interest, but ultimately the article is about an island.

If the mood takes me, I might do a little work on the main Aleutian Islands Campaign article, as it could certainly use some work. However, I seem to have unintentionally adopted nuclear test sites as a personal project, and there are many more to do once I've finished this one... Cheers, Jakew 11:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Where did you find the guadalcanal maps?

I'm looking for a map that zooms in on Kolombongara island, where did you find the solomon islands map so that I can find the others? --Sugarcaddy 18:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I also agree on the ganging up thing, I had to fight 13 people at once. --Sugarcaddy 19:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Response to your Japanese War Crime comments

Hey, what was wrong with the testimony edit of the nurse who stated she helped cover up bodies in West Tokyo. It had references and quotes by the people who investigated that issue. The nurses name is Toyo Iishi. If we don't give specifics in that article section people tend to delete it. Then later as time goes on references will get lost or forgotten, then people tend to state that the information is not true. I will try to re-edit it without the qoutes by the investigator which could be seen as POV, I believe they stated "legacy of Japans rampage" or something. But I think the name of the individual who testified needs to be included, otherwise the article which is sensitive to begin with is always being changed with people asking for proof. It reminds me of the holocaust section where some people keep saying it never happened. Anyways I'll add the name of the nurse, but I won't put in the quotes. Please check it out and see if you have problems with it and let me know, thanks. --4.23.83.100 10:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Your report on WP:AIV

Hello. I saw your report on WP:AIV. Kindly keep in mind that you need to warn users before you report them on this page. Regards, — Nearly Headless Nick 12:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Nice work. I like quality new contributors to[REDACTED] (like myself) Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Japan dislikes and likes

I guess for me the museum was frustrating because I was with a bunch of people who kept saying how horrible it was, and one stupid girl who said to the Japanese with us "I want to apologize for what my country did to you" followed by solemn nods from other foreigners in our group. But there is no mention of what preceded the bombing, other than the "cold, calculated" process America took to decide what city to bomb. It most definately is designed to elicit sympathy from the rest of the world. Even my own girlfriend said while we were there "I hate Americans." So much for fostering "peace." I have never introduced the atomic bombings into conversations when talking with a Japanese person; they always do.--Nobunaga24 01:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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Campaignbox Pacific 1941

I think Template:Campaignbox Pacific 1941 should be kept for three reasons. Firstly, if we are following Allied commands in our definition of campaigns/theatres, it corresponds somewhat with the short-lived American-British-Dutch-Australian Command, which preceded the three Allied supreme commands formed in mid-1942 --- the Pacific Ocean Areas (command), South West Pacific Area (command) and the South East Asia Command. Second, I also think that if we combine the Pacific 1941 items in the other two (or three) they will become too big and unwieldly. Third, "Pacific 1941" covers the period of the Japanese offensives up to and including Midway, after which the tide of war turned. Thanks, Grant65 | Talk 07:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

it was a violation of WP:BLP

your edit in my page is non factual and is in fact bad faith in itself, i consider it a vandalism to my page. I was concerned with the libel in it after revewing WP:BLP concerning some other case (being on the other side). No, i'm not the same as mantanmoreland... that's ridicilous and bad faith too since it's obvious we're not, though I've become interested in some of his interests and vice-versa, that's true. Amoruso 23:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Weiss bio

As to sources, the material about Weiss' education and early jobs probably comes from Weiss' blog. http://www.gary-weiss.com/bio.htm

Blogs are not always reliable as sources, of course, but it isn't clear to me why anybody would suspect Weiss of lying in the particular respects at issue here (do you really pad your resume by pretending to have working at a newspaper in Hartford, Conn.?). --Christofurio 01:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I think User:Cla68 is merely trying to hold User:Mantanmoreland, as author of 95% of the Gary Weiss article, to the same standard Mantanmoreland employed here here and here (please ask if you'd like to see more).

And Cla68, as to your question regarding a possible link between User:Amoruso and Mantanmoreland (since removed from Amoruso's talk page), I applaud your instincts and would love to share some information with you, which you're certain to find very interesting. Let me know if you'd like to see it (and if so you might find it interesting to review the edit history of User:Elizmr as well).--Powder Blue Tuxedo 04:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to my user page

Re You reinstated a bad faith vandalism warning from the anon user in question. I and an administrator had removed personal attacks. The page of the anon user in question was semiprotected to prevent reversion of the personal attacks. Please desist from edits of that character. Thanks. --Mantanmoreland 07:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Your POV-pushing and personal attacks

Re , use of the term "self promotional" is on the cusp between aggressive POV-pushing and vandalism. Please stop.

Also, re your various comments on the Gary Weiss talk page and elsewhere (such as use of the phrase "bad faith " in ), please refrain from personal attacks and ad hominem comments, and please address your comments to the article and not the editor. --Mantanmoreland 11:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Those aren't personal attacks, those are accurate descriptions of what's going-on with that article. Personal attacks are much different in nature. Evidence strongly suggests that the article is being used for self-promotion. That's a big no-no. Believe me, it's not personal. Also, unlike you, I won't be deleting your comments from my user page immediately because I don't have anything to hide. Cla68 13:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Greetings, Cla68. I saw your afd for the Gary Weiss. My concern is that it links to a non-Misplaced Pages site for its evidence. Technically, we're not supposed to accept off-Misplaced Pages evidence. What's worse, that particular site tries to "out" some Misplaced Pages members, posting alleged personal information and libel against them. By an earlier arbcom ruling, links to "attack sites" can be deleted by anyone, and although the page you link to isn't really problematic, the site arguably is.

For both those reasons, I'm going to remove your link. It's nothing personal, and I don't have a stake at all in whether the Gary Weiss article should be kept or not. Feel free to summarize the info from that site into the afd page. All the best, – Quadell 17:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Gary Weiss

You should consider complaining about the Gary Weiss article and Mantanmoreland's behavior at Misplaced Pages:Request for Arbitration.

After the AfD process has run its course, and if the article is voted for keeping, I'll attempt again to edit the Weiss article to remove the self-promotion and make it a neutral article that contains all cited, relevant information about the subject. If I'm blocked again in doing so, then the next step will be as you suggest. Cla68 14:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm curious whether I'm one of the alleged "three socks" to whom you refer in the Afd. For what it's worth to you, I'm nobody's sock. If you're determined to believe I am, I suppose you can. I'm just curious about the reference. --Christofurio 14:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Your comment

Hi Cla, could you say what you meant this by comment, please? "Now that 'high administrator' protection for that article has apparently ended, we can methodically work on ensuring that the article belongs on Misplaced Pages ..." SlimVirgin 19:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)