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April 2018

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Nicolae Densușianu, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Misplaced Pages's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 09:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Unfortunately, content you added to Origin of the Romanians appears to be a minority or fringe viewpoint, and appears to have given undue weight to this minority viewpoint, and has been reverted. To maintain a neutral point of view, an idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in an article about a mainstream idea. Feel free to use the article's talk page to discuss this, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 09:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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Reformulated:

• "Truth" is not the only criteria for inclusion, verifiability is also required.
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Also, not a policy or guideline, but something important to understand the above policies and guidelines: Misplaced Pages operates off of objective information, which is information that multiple persons can examine and agree upon. It does not include subjective information, which only an individual can know from an "inner" or personal experience. Most religious beliefs fall under subjective information. Misplaced Pages may document objective statements about notable subjective claims (i.e. "Christians believe Jesus is divine"), but it does not pretend that subjective statements are objective, and will expose false statements masquerading as subjective beliefs (cf. Indigo children).

You may also want to read User:Ian.thomson/ChristianityAndNPOV. We at Misplaced Pages are highbrow (snobby), heavily biased for the academia. Tgeorgescu (talk) 09:19, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

April 2018

Please do not insert fringe or undue weight content into articles, as you did to Origin of the Romanians. An article should not give undue weight to any aspects of the subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject. Please use the article's talk page to discuss the material and its appropriate weight within the article. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 10:16, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Fringe Theories Noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Fringe theories/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Talk:Origin of the Romanians#Densusianu is fringe. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding Eastern Europe, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

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Iovaniorgovan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. Place any further information here. Iovaniorgovan (talk) 07:17, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Decline reason:

After posting this request, the user made this edit, which means that the user is not blocked. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:12, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

sorry, are you talking to/about me? I do use VPN on occasion (it's for work, as I need to watch geo-blocked videos from around the world) and I forgot to sign in a couple of times (seeing as it's not required to post comments on the talk pages)-- I can tell you exactly which are my unsigned comments though (only 2-3 are unsigned but you can tell by content they're mine). is there a problem here?--Iovaniorgovan (talk) 06:56, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

these are my unsigned comments: "196.245.9.70 (talk) 07:41, 19 April 2018 (UTC)", "23.83.37.154 (talk) 07:44, 26 April 2018" and this one on the Densusianu thread (though obviously me) "2602:301:7769:EF70:1D88:8886:4A13:2F40 (talk) 13:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)". Forgot to sign in, so shoot me. Why don't you make it a requirement to sign in if one wants to post a comment on the talk page? Else you can forgive someone for forgetting to sign in. Any questions?--Iovaniorgovan (talk) 07:06, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Tgeorgescu (talk) 03:22, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

You are suspected of sock puppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Misplaced Pages accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, then, if you wish to do so, respond to the evidence at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Iaaasi. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:00, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

RSN notice

There is a thread concerning your edits at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:34, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Origin of the Romanians

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Borsoka (talk) 04:10, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I assume you sent one of these "warnings" to your flunkies, too... Right?? You know, the Hungarian brigade that keeps reverting my edits? While you're at it, did you send one to yourself? I didn't violate any Wiki rules, my edit was the direct result of what was debated on the Talk pages. I got no answer to my question so I performed the edit (as advertised), and I'll continue to do so unless I get a reasonable answer. If you have a problem with it please resort to arbitration, I'm all for it.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 23:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I am not a member of any "Hungarian brigade". I am a Romanian editor, but I think you are wrong in this particular case. If you don't improve your behaviour here, you will be blocked on Misplaced Pages. So my friendy advice is to stop the edit war immediately. 123Steller (talk) 13:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

If that's the case, my apologies. The edit wars sometimes lead to major improvements in the article. See my "work" on the linguistics & genetics sections as an example. More is coming. And please don't lecture me on "behavior", it's pathetic. I haven't broken any Wiki rules. In fact, the FIRST Wiki rule is to be "BOLD". Can you tell the difference? In alta ordine de idei, toate bune!Iovaniorgovan (talk) 18:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Origin of the Romanians (WP:3RR)

Misplaced Pages have always been a community of cooperating editors. Your edit history suggests that your principal aim is to push your own rules against any editor (, , , , , ). I ask you to read basic Misplaced Pages policies, because editors who do not apply them always have to leave our community. I strongly suggest that you should read WP:3RR. Borsoka (talk) 13:49, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

You are the one pushing an ideology here, as a Hungarian trying to lord over the "Origin of the Romanians" Wiki page by, for instance, denying the inclusion of critical RELIABLE SOURCES just because you don't IDEOLOGICALLY agree with them (instead of bringing "reliable sources" to support your arguments): case in point, the THIRD-OPINION case I opened (pending). No one elected you the Pope of Misplaced Pages, so all editors are equal in that regard, and it will stay that way. Might I remind you, I HAVE ALWAYS RESPECTED ALL WIKI RULES! Nonetheless, YOU keep pushing your agenda and I see there could be repercussions against you. I'll look into it soon and see what can be done about your behavior here.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 18:21, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

WP:NPOV dispute

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Origin of the Romanians Article. Thank you. --Cealicuca (talk) 13:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

October 2018

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Origin of the Romanians. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 16:36, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Notice of No Original Research Noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:No original research/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 16:43, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Tgeorgescu. Misplaced Pages is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Nicolae Densușianu seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Conclusion: your removal is not done since WP:PARITY is of application. Tgeorgescu (talk) 13:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Alex Cohn (let's chat!) 00:41, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Cohn Please refer to the edit in question. I always abide by Wiki rules and use the talk pages extensively when there's a dispute. If the edit in question is the revert on Tgeorgescu's edit, then that's pretty obvious: he uses redundant opinions of a blogger/filmmaker (NOT WP:RS) to populate an article on a historian. Nonetheless, there's a "talk" in process, so I don't see what the problem is here. Kind regards.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 01:02, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Cohn I don't understand why you removed my last comment on the NPOV talk page. How was that "disruptive"? Please explain.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 01:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Iovaniorgovan, take another look at the edit I reverted - you removed a notice about your account another user had added, which seems quite disruptive to me. Alex Cohn (let's chat!) 01:28, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Cohn Oh, that, I see. You're right, but I looked up that page and it says "These tags are not an official Misplaced Pages policy, and may be heeded or not...", so I decided to not heed it because I disagree that I have a single-purpose account, as I've made edits on several other pages, even quite recently. Is that wrong or just "frowned upon"? So who decides that I should (or should not) have that tag attached? Also, why was my last comment removed from the NPOV talk page? Cheers.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 01:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Nicolae Densușianu, you may be blocked from editing. Tgeorgescu (talk) 01:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I didn't delete any talk page comments. What're you talking about?! Please refrain from making more paranoid, unfounded and wild accusations on my talk page.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 02:00, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

By any chance, are you calling me a liar? Then see . I advise you to retract "paranoid" with <s> and </s>. Tgeorgescu (talk) 02:09, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

My bad, I don't know how exactly that happened, honestly. I think we were editing at the same time and as I published my edit I got a pop-screen to reconcile the edits either with the existing text or with my edits and I chose my edits, meaning it overwrote your recent edit... Or something like that. My apologies, it wasn't intentional. Nonetheless, generally speaking, you have gone overboard with calling my comments "disruptive". You have a long history of doing everything in your power to curtail me. But it won't work. All the best though.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 02:15, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

p.s. your name appears 17 times on my talk page. How's that not paranoid?Iovaniorgovan (talk) 02:18, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

For the reason why you run into problems see User:Moreschi/The Plague. Anyway, you profess to do nationalist propaganda, but in fact you make Romanians look ridiculous by pushing extreme views and pseudoscience. Tgeorgescu (talk) 02:25, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I profess nothing, other than I'm here to create a better encyclopedia. You, on the other hand, have already falsely accused me (and others) of sock puppetry and other things (see above), which is the very definition of paranoia ("suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification") and here you go again accusing me of other stuff, when in fact it's you who's stoking ethnic discord with false accusations, as one can see here. When I made a mistake I owned up to it and promptly apologized, yet you have refused to do so even when you were clearly in the wrong. That's the difference between you and me. Please stop abusing my talk page with your paranoid charges, I will not respond to them from here on out. Peace.Iovaniorgovan (talk) 05:26, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Fringe Theories Noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Fringe theories/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Nicolae Densușianu. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 07:17, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

EDIT WARRING NOTICE

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.(KIENGIR (talk) 12:22, 8 November 2018 (UTC))