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==Wikiholidays==
Would it be appropriate to add WPians with ] named for them to ]? --] 22:01, 2004 Jan 30 (UTC)

:IMO, No. These people are only famous inside our little world here. --] 22:41, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

=== Will there be any more? ===

Is Jimbo going to declare a new holiday this year? I haven't heard anything about one... --''']''' <big>] ]</big> 21:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:Still don't know if there will be new ones, although we now know it won't be in 2005... --''']''' <big>] ]</big> 19:08, 1 January 2006 (UTC) <small>(there's the reason 2005 had none -- 2006 already!)</small>


=== Pomp and Circumstance ===

Can I declare Feb. 30, 2018 the official "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WIKIPEDIA" day?
--{{unsigned|Harvardgraduate1987}}
:No. ]]] <small><sup> ] . ] . ]</sup></small> 04:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

===WikiRank?===

Is there an offical rank to Misplaced Pages? Can I create one?

It probably has to be something like a Barnstar, but ranking. Any ideas? --] 14:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

==Ribbons==
=== systematicaly introducing ribbons ===

What do you think of idea to introduce a ribbon for each barnstar? In the manner that most militaries do it, a ribbon for each award:
. So here we would discuss desigh of a simple ribbon for every barnstar now used (starting with the most commonly used). The ribbons would all have the same (rather small) dimensions and would be suitable for usage in templates which would arange them in unified manner (see {{tl|babel-1}}, {{tl|babel-2}} and such). The ribbon itself wouldn't have any text, but would serve as a link to the actual barnstar which could be in a separate subpage of that user's userspace or could be left on the talk page or something.

Why do I propose this? Well, I like spartan design of things and I'm sure that there are people who would like the idea to be able to remove the barnstars of theirs to subpage and to leave only small and elegant ribbons, just like generals do on their chest :-) --] 20:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
*ummmm, have you seen this page? ] ] 20:38, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:: D'oh! Sorry, haven't seen this page. Thanks for pointing that out. --] 21:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
===Ribon standards===
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It is time to establish ribon standards. I propose the following standards:
*Size
**Ribbon width must equal 72px
**Ribbon height must equal 30px
**'''OR''' follow the same ratio
*Ribbons should be clear w/o smuges. (aka ] like)
*Uploaded in commons for interwiki use.
*Folow Naming convention: <nowiki>]</nowiki>
--<small>]<sup>]|]</sup></small> 17:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::For everyone's information, I based my ribbon designs off of the Soviet model. If the Wikipedian community says "make it longer," then I will (perhaps to 106 width, 30 height in pixels). Still, i'm honored y'all want to use ribbons. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 20:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I persoanly feel its just right. I can fit precisely 3 of them on my useralk pages side. --<small>]<sup>]|]</sup></small> 19:58, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::This is such a cool idea! I certainly Love the Zscout feel; size, clarity, colours are all very much as I'd like to use them. ''IF'' we should introduce a standard, I'd go for that. ''IF''. AzaToth's design is also really beautiful, and I am sure there are some who would prefer the more natual feel they offer. ]]] ] 14:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

=== Misplaced Pages Motivation Award ===

I love the idea of using ribbons as well as barnstars. Could someone please create a ribbon for the "Misplaced Pages Motivation Award"?<font color="violet">]</font> 07:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Added <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]]]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 14:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

=== Defender of the Wiki Ribbon? ===

Could someone please create a ribbon for this barnstar as well? ] 12:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:I had already made one, but had forgot to add it to the list (Image:Defender of the Wiki Ribbon.png) <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]]]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 14:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks, AzaToth! ] 14:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

=== This is getting chaotic - Ribbons discussion redux ===
I think all barnstars (or rather - all image awards) should have their own category. Second, some of them have a ], which are relatively unknown (note that there are other ribbons scattered through Wiki, not linked on Zscout page, like ] or ]. How many I have missed? Note also that Zscout page has some other awards not linked here). Third, I have seen specific national versions of 'Barnstar of National Merit' - they should be linked here as well. Example: ]. All things consider, this is getting out of hand. I don't mind having many awards and images, but we need to have a complete list somwhere. If this free-for-all award creation goes much longer, we will be swamped with duplicate images and awards... --] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 19:13, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Most of the ribbon versions were created by me, mainly since I could not display all awards on my userpage at all. Y'all are welcome to use them. I think Halibut also uses ribbon bars, but he created some, and got awarded some, that I never got. When I get a new award, I usually make a ribbon bar the first time I get it. Plus, for those wondering how do I display them on my user page, I went by the "order of precedence" set out on this very page. The sizes of the ribbon bars I made are 72x30 pixels, but others that are used by Halibut are 104x30 or 106x30 pixels. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:39, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
*I like the ribbons. Why don't we add them as an option?] 18:13, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
*I'm going to put it on the proposal page.] 20:31, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

=== Smiles Ribbon? ===

Could somebody please create a ribbon for one of those "Smiles" Awards (for promoting WikiLove)? Thanks. ] 21:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

== Removed the scouting barnstar ==

I have removed the scouting barnstar as it does not fit under the topical barnstars as described on the page. Also, it is not broad enough. Couple of editors had suggested that it be made a ] for the scouting page, but it doesn't seem to be heeded. Voting to make it a barnstar is meaningless, as WP is not a democracy; I only pray that ] and ] do not become battle grounds a la Userboxes. --] 15:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
=== Then you should remove the Sports Award ===

The Scouting Star is as broad as sports, and certainly broader than odd-ball. Scouting is a world-wide movement and has a lot of editors and many followers. It is as broad as many of the topics that are already up there.

While there were different suggestions made, there was no strong argument in any direction. --] 15:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

*I don't think so; ] includes 53 massive subcategories, which themselves each contain many categories. ] includes 9 top-level subcategories and 11 lower level subcategories, most of which contain under 20~30 items. There are roughly 25 sports related ], compared to 1 scouting related FA. <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 16:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

**I'm not going to remove any awards. What do you have to say about the Odd-ball one (i'm not trying to get that removed.] 16:09, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
*Can you provide some metrics, say, such as no. of articles under sports and scouting to show that scouting is as broad as sports? Please note that another editor believes that it is not appropriate as a barnstar per talk on ] itself and has reverted your change. Please note that the oddball and spoken barnstars are not about the subject matter per se. Also, please note, as per your own description, that it is a barnstar related to WikiProject Scouting. No one objects to it being the barnstar for your project and it being placed on ]. Please see the topic-related awards section on that page; no offence meant, but there would be several more comic-related articles than scouting-related awards, yet the comics barnstar is a PUA. Also, I believe that there is a subtle difference between the words topical and topic-related, and that it should be respected. I rest my case as you have already reverted twice. I do hope that other editors take note of this discussion. --] 16:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
* I don't have the time at this moment to make my case. :)] 16:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

**I've commented out the barnstar. Please do not uncomment it ''or'' delete from the page until this dispute is resolved. Feel free to award it, but use the text ''award'' rather than ''barnstar'', please. <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 16:20, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

*I believe that the award that was created for the ] should be a topical award. Scouting is a world-wide movement that has served youth in many countries for more than 100 years and represents the youth of the world at the United Nations.

:It has been suggested that the award be given as a ]. The first line on the PUA page reads, "This page provides a collection of awards created by <i>individual</i> Wikipedians." The Scouting Barnstar was created by the ].] 16:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

::The Comics Barnstar is there, and that was made by ]. <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 17:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Also, all awards including barnstars are created by individual wikipedians and then adopted by consensus. ;) btw, ], please do not edit or move comments once made as you have done here. It is very confusing to follow - also pl. use ] and ''Show preview'' button. --] 17:11, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
*I know about edit summaries ... I was trying to clean up the discussion. ] 17:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Why can't you just offer the Scouting-contributors original barnstars? <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 17:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
*Why then should there be any barnstars but the original? ] 17:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

*There is nothing wrong with having a Scouting barnstar. However, I do have agree that it is project/topical in nature and be in the topic-related awards section of PUA. This is where the Cricket project and portal award is. ] 17:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
**What about the first line of the page? this was not meant to be a personal star, but one for all Scouters?] 17:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I, the coordinator of the Scouting Project and Portal, am putting this in topic-related awards of PUA. As far as I am concerned this is settled. Anyone who contributes greatly to the Scouting area of Wiki can receive it. ] 21:36, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
*For the record - I don't agree. ] 03:12, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

:That sounds like the best possible solution. I'm removing the star permanantly from the Barnstar list. <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 22:00, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
::Other Wikiproject awards are listed at the PUA, such as the Pokebarnstar (Pokemon Wikiproject), so I have no objections for it to be placed at PUA. ] <small><sup>] ] </sup></small> 01:20, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
*I agree with Rlevse, and was one of the people to make this a matter of discussion over at ] for the Scouting barnstar. Other projects' awards are on PUA, ours should be too. -- ] <small>(] - ])</small> 20:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
*<s>Well the issue has already been forced down everyone's throat by a user in the UK and one in India - so the point is now moot. I also think that Scouting deserves higher kudos than pokemon.</s> ] 02:49, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
*Well the issue has already been forced down everyone's throat by people one one side of the world (a user in the UK and one in India) without allowing a lot of time for discussion - so the point is now moot. I also think that Scouting deserves higher kudos than pokemon. ] 18:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::The scouting star has been listed as a ] under ]. <font style="color:#FF1111"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#CC1111"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#CC1111"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#CC1111"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 20:33, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

This is rediculous, the scouting barnstar was fine. Why do people try to go around and mess up what other people are doing. We should just bring it back, regardless of what ] says. he says[REDACTED] isn't a democracy; but it's even more stupid to think that[REDACTED] is here to cater to one person's whims. WP is here to serve the interests of those who use it. if more people would like to see it change forms or start doing new things, then it should do just that, because the users want it. I have no idea what he's saying when he doesn't want barnstars to turn into a battlefield like userboxes. The boxes aren't a battlefield, barnstars couldn't turn into a war; and even if they could a scouting barnstar was not about to start that battle. In short, this is nuts, bring it back. ] 16:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
:"''WP is here to serve the interests of those who use it.''" Is there anything to suggest that I am not one of those who use it? ;) btw, please be ]. The reactions by you and ] are not what I'd expect from scouts or contributors to scouting articles. --] 17:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

no, you are a user, but when you say that voting isn't the best way to resolve things, it detracts from the principle of letting the users decide what kind of page they want to run. I'm sorry if i wasn't civil but unilaterally removing the barnstar was (in my opinion) a bit uncalled for. ] 00:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
*I suppose if I object to being called uncivil ], is going to brand me as being uncivil. :-)
:First of all, while I may be involved in ], that doesn’t make me a ]. What I object to is the quick removal and lack of discussion that went into the the actions taken last week. The development of the barnstar went through the process as described on the proposal page, and when a consensus was reached on a design, the star was moved to barnstar page. There was some discussion of the PUA status, but there were two comments for and two against.

:The topical barnstars are not defined, and there seemed to be no consensus here on the definition. As far as I know Gurubrahma and ] have no higher authority than anyone else in deciding these matters; and ] capitulated to avoid a fight. . So my aggravation boils down to this: We went through the process, followed the rules. This was supposed to be part of the ], but it has turned into something negative.] 23:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::I termed your acts incivil precisely because you started casting aspersions based on the nationality of editors. 2 comments for and 2 comments against is no consensus for adding it to the barnstar page and AFAIK, smurrayinchester did not even comment during the discussion. He just reverted your change precisely because you were not willing to discuss. Also realise that your latest acts of moving related awards to the PUA page without discussing may be considered vandalism and get you blocked. Hence, I am reverting the changes - please understand that there are three levels of awards - Barnstars, related awards and PUAs (including topic-specific awards). Related awards should be on the page and not on PUA page. You have not used edit summaries again and as such it becomes unclear to me as to what you did in each of your operations. Hence I am reverting your changes wholesale. Thanks, --] 08:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

* I’d like to be as ‘civil’ about this as possible. You’re making a lot of assumptions in your statement. First of all, I did not cast any aspersions, nor did I state anyone’s nationality. I mainly stated where you were located geographically as stated on your user page. Because I was short of time earlier today, I went in and edited the comment to make more explicit the meaning of my comment. Imagine my humor when I saw that you had reverted my clarification because it didn’t meet your standard of editing. That must have been a great a great ‘gotcha’ moment for you.

:Regarding your comments about the 2 – 2 split in the comments about adding it to the page. No where on the guidelines does it say that there has to be a voting process after a consensus has been reached about the award itself – nor is there at this point a definition about what a topical barnstar is, or what is a topic-related barnstar. Please show me if I have somehow missed where those guidelines are. As far as I see, the proposal page in no way states that after a star is discussed and vetted by the users that it needs the approval of anyone to be placed on the barnstar page (or the difference between Barnstars, related awards and PUAs (including topic-specific awards)).

:Made some comments about how I’ve made changes without a lot of discussion (I did make those changes), and yet when smurrayinchester and you both made your reverts it was without any discussion. You seem to have two standards. The discussion was pretty thorough on the proposal page, I was making those initial edits based on the lengthy discussion on the proposal page. Why wasn’t I (or the Scouting Barnstar) not afforded the same consideration you are now asking of me? If discussion is good, why didn't you wait a day or so to remove the star after haviung made comments (what is your standard?)

:Finally, I don’t appreciate being intimidated (here and elsewhere) by intimating that I may be barred. If you looked at the page you would have been able to see that I ordered them horizontally in a gallery, ran than in a long line running down the page. There is no way that what I did in restructuring the gallery of the images could be considered vandalism. I reorganized the way it images were presented, and no data was lost. ] 21:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

===Scouting Star Redux===
Looking at the inconsistency of the way the stars are placed and awarded across all the wikis, I plan moving the Scouting Star back to the Barnstar page.] 14:37, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
*Why not call for a ] to see what a majority of editors think? Or how about flagging it on ]? Each wiki is different. In other wikis, anons can create new articles; here they cannot. imo, inconsistency across wikis itself is no reason to place it on the barnstar page, 'coz some one can turnback and say (I hope not, I've got 8 barnstars ;)) some wikis do not have barnstars, so why should we? I rest my case here. --] 14:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
**I like the idea of the RFC. Other thoguhts?] 20:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
***I think an RFC might as well be the best idea. After all, this page is only read by Barnstar lovers. It would be good to know what UserBob thinks of the debate, and that way, we can't dispute the result. If it stays, it stays, if it goes, it's gone. <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 20:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
::::If no-one objects, I'll file an RFC, then. <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 20:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
::::(Incidently, it appears two more Project awards, the Wikiwings and the Star of Sophia, have been posted as barnstars (even though the Wikiwings was actaually voted to be a PUA). I'm also including these in the RFC) <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 20:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
*whoa there Sparky ... I think we should agree on the term of the RFC. I myslef think we should be asking for opinions on what the definitions of the types of barnstars should be, and not debating the individfual stars. I think we should also make the process clearer. i.e. how does a star make the move from the proposal to the barnstar or the PUA page.] 21:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
**How about "There's a bit of a debate going on as to how narrowly defined a Barnstar is, whether awards given by WikiProjects are Barnstars or PUAs and the process of creating a Barnstar, and outside opinions are needed"? <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 21:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
***Let's agree to put the RFC up in a week, and give some others time to comment on this before we take it to an RFC.] 21:13, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Sounds fair. I probably was a bit hasty. Any comments on the wording? <font style="color:#55BBBB"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#77AAAA"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#77AAAA"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 21:15, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Layout problem ==
*The new layout using the gallery code made the words overlap when viewed with 1024*768 firefox. I think we urgently need a fix. ] 04:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
*I made those changes on IE, and there was no problem. At home I am using Safari and have the same problem as mentioned above.] 05:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
**Also, using the gallery makes navigation very difficult. --] 09:26, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
***Sorry about the confusion. The page didn't look bad when using Internet Explorer.] 18:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
*I just reverted some gallery code on the topical barnstars to make it consistent with the rest of the page. I understand that you tried to do that because it's only a few images as opposed to the other sections, but according to readability and usability research, it's actually harder on the eyes to scroll sections of text horizontally than vertically. I actually found it easier to read before you folks stuck these into large tables, but I can survive with that. The gallery code is more designed for images with less caption text: these barnstars contain too much text to make it comfortable to look at. --]]]] 14:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
* <s>disagree ...</s> ] 15:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
**... with what part? Do you disagree with all of what I said? --]]]] 16:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
***I think that the page is too unwieldy, and whil I like the new look, I liked tha gallery format better. It made tha page more compact.] 20:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

==Page Layout==
As it is laid out, I think the page is too long and it is difficult to read. Some thought should be put into redesigning the page.] 18:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
*I think the main problem with this page is that it is very long, but that's because there are lots of barnstars. This page isn't a mainspace article, and it's more as a "reference" when deciding what to award to someone. Clicking on the appropriate section gets you to where you want. As I said in the previous section, IMO, the gallery coding actually makes it harder to read because the eyes have to scroll horizontally, and because the text columns are so narrow, the eyes also have to scroll vertically TOO often, which leads to eye fatigue. That said, there's nothing wrong with discussion: how do you think the page should be redesigned? I want to start off by saying that, IMO, the gallery code isn't really the best solution here, and I don't think splitting off articles for the various types of "official barnstars" is the answer: it's better to have all the official barnstars in one place. --]]]] 14:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

==Other Awards==
The ] should either go to the PUA or to their own page, as they are not barnstars.] 19:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
*I see that ] made the changes. Thanks. I support this move.] 21:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many typos in the beginning of this article ==

Is this some private joke, or should they be fixed ? ] 14:54, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
: The page itself has been fixed: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Barnstars&curid=1204665&diff=39739448&oldid=39739103 ] 14:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

::I reverted the changes made by AzaToth. I'm sure the changes were made in good intent but I felt they made the page look very messy. The was a lot of really bad grammar and spelling, though I know not everyone has English as their first language here. Also the alterations made to the descriptions of the awards had stopped the page displaying properly on screens with a size less than 1600 across, so I'm afraid that had to go. The page as it was seemed better to me so I reverted them all. ] 15:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:::About the intro, I don't know what I did there, I have now typed a totally new intro. I sorry, but I reverted yuor revert, better if we came to consensus first. Can you please explain what you ment by change in description, I havn't made any changes to that. <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 15:10, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Article Changes ==

Okay. I feel the old introduction to this article was better than the new one. It seemed less of a ramble and more to the point to me (grammar and spelling aside as I realise the author is not a native speaker of English). The Award Template changes at the bottom have to go, without question, they change the page into a page that you have to scroll horizontally to read, not to mention being rather unpleasant to look at. I do realise now that I reverted to far though, and the movement of the Other Awards was fitting. ] 15:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have changed at the bottom now, the problem was that "pre" dosn't word-wrap :(, I didn't notice that first because I have 1600x1200 <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 15:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
: AzaToth: I'm pleased that you decided to ], but you may have gone a bit too far. I have a resolution setting of 1280x1024 and, in some parts, the changes force the text to run off the side of my screen. Also, the opening paragraph was previously very well written, and had evolved to its state over time: it didn't need to be replaced. Whatever we do with the formatting, I hope to keep that paragraph. &ndash; ]] 15:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, the problem I saw with the initial intro was that it felt list an old talk-entry. <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 15:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:::More specifically, what don't you like about it? In what way, exactly, is it like an "old talk entry"? It's intentionally written in an informal style, but otherwise it has all of the flow, ideas, and grammar that otherwise make a good opening paragraph. &ndash; ]] 15:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Now when I read it again, I didn't find any problems with it, my brain must have been offline :/ <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 15:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've been there, my friend. &ndash; ]] 15:29, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
<small>de-indenting</small>Also ], I know it for a fact that you have worked on most of these stars and awards, so I wanted to know if the removal of awards such as the FA medal and Wikiwiffle bat to ] is called for. Also, I prefer the old layout simply because the TOC has the list of all barnstars and awards, so I just needed to click on the TOC links to go to the exact image. Finding it now is much more difficult. --] 17:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:I did remove that template because 1. I found it superflous, they are all already defined in the page, and 2. It was rather big and ugly. <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 17:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, I think I understand what you where thinking there. I have made a test on ] for a different design. <sub>→<font style="color:#975612">]</font><font style="color:#325596">]</font></sub> 17:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you moved the whole "other awards" page... I think that this was a perfectly reasonable action. &ndash; ]] 16:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Admins ==

Can regular users, that aren't Admins, give barnstars? I've only seen Admins giving Barnstars.
* Anybody can give out barnstars. Go ahead, ]! &ndash; ]] 01:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
*Giving out barnstars is supposed to be a light, fun activity. I was given a barnstar for cracking a few jokes (and gave a barnstar to the person who took my jokes). --]]]] 14:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
** That's only because his jokes are so bad, though. ;P &ndash; ]] 16:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
***That's true... --]]]] 16:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
*And there are barnstars for virtually any purpose, so you could give one to most active Misplaced Pages users for their contributions in all sorts of areas. --] ] 10:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

==Wikicommons, etc.==
Wow, the are categorized completely differently than the way they are here on wikipeida.] 21:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
*Probably because in Commons, it's presented as images with very little in the way of text (only the name of the barnstars are presented as captions), which is how I think image galleries should be used. IMO, presenting large quantities of text as captions in galleries renders the content very hard to read. --]]]] 21:49, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
**Maybe so, but the way they categrize the stars is different - look at the comics star.] 22:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
***You mean as opposed to personal user awards? Yeah, they're putting all the awards together without regard for what's a barnstar and what's an award. Probably because it's just a repository of images for use in all the different language Wikipedias. The individual language Wikipedias are free to use these images according to their consensus. --]]]] 14:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
****That's not meant to be a 'main page' for Barnstars, like this is. Think of it more as a back room warehouse where all the barnstars and awards are just junked together for storage. <font style="color:#FF1111"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#CC1111"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#CC1111"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#CC1111"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 23:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
*****Where does it say that? Actually, I think it would be good to try and put sdome more order to that page. ] 16:50, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==Languages other than English==
I went through and added all the languages I could find here, to and to each of the Awards Pages on the different languages. Are there that are missing? --] 14:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

*I found a set of pages in , but can't read Vietnames so i can't figure out the exact link to add. ] 02:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
*The right page in would also be a help. ] 02:41, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

==Please redesign - Barnstar of National Merit==
] is very important barnstar but it looks awful. Can you please give it a makeover? ] 23:21, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

*]I think this should maybe go to Barnstar Proposals. But I do have a proposal (I also have an alternate version where the centre using the (PD) ] image of the earth). <font style="color:#FF1111"><u><b>s</b>murray</u></font><font style="color:#CC1111"><u>inch</u></font>]<font style="color:#CC1111"><u>ster</u></font><font style="color:#CC1111"><sup>(]), (])</sup></font> 23:56, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:<small>Moved to ]</small>

**FWIW. If you look at the page on the commons you'll see a lot of options. ] 16:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Question about the "missing barnstar" ==
How is the missing barnstar used? I don't understand it. ] 17:47, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
*I think it's self-identification of a desire to get an awrad. "Note: The Missing Barnstar is NOT an award. It is an identifier for those who want to get an award."] 18:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
**Um, no. It's a barnstar for people who haven't gotten a barnstar in awhile. <font color="#4682B4">]</font><font color="#00FF00">]</font><font color="#E32636">]</font> 02:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
***It syas, "Note: The Missing Barnstar is NOT an award. It is an identifier for those who want to get an award." Is it self-nominated?] 23:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
*I looked at the history of the award and am going to move it. ] 02:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiproject Stars ==
Until we have our 'barnstar summit' I think that the wikiproject stars should remain on the page. ] 15:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
*I moved the proposed ], and {{tl|User Barnstar}} barnstars. There are two reasons. As far as I can tell, they didn’t follow the established procedure, and unless all the stars are going to be allowed to be placed there (especially those vetted on the proposal page) I thought there was a moratorium on moving any new stars to the page. ] 20:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== Barnstar Summit ==
In response to our earlier discussion on the ], I wanted to make a proposal to settle several outstanding issues about Project Awards, Barnstars, Other Related Awards, and the Personal User Awards. It has been suggested that we call for a ] to see what a majority of editors think, or how about flagging it on ].

#I myself think we should be asking for opinions on what the definitions of the types of barnstars should be, and not debating the individual stars.
#I think we should also make the process clearer. (i.e. how does a star make the move from the proposal to the barnstar or the PUA page.)
#I think we should give some thought to the other awrds, and perhaps the ribbons as well.

I also suggest creating a separate page for this, ].

Thoughts? -- ] 18:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

:imo, subpages for discussion are unnecessary. The fact that very few people have commented on the above issues indicates that though barnstar are widely awarde, this page itself is not watchlisted by many. Why not file an RfC and post a link on Village Pump? The terms of rfc should be open, imo. Giving examples of individual barnstars or PUAs would be helpful than keeping it at the level of the general discussion. In fact, it is precisely because of this general nature of description that so many misunderstandings have occurred about the contents of this page. As far as the second point goes, I think making the process clear should not lead to instruction creep. imo, abt the third point, I consider the discussion closed with whatever has transpired in the discussion at the article. Also, it may make more sense to move this discussion to ] because AFAIK, the proposal for RfC was first made there and the editors watchlisting that page may not be watching this one. --] 15:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
::I stand corrected, the original discussion was also initiated here. --] 16:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
*This page is getting long. Maybe we should archive part of it rather than create a subpage? I think we should work out a draft of what we want decided here (or on a subpage) before we take it to the group at large. ] 16:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Images can be resized to be smaller. Also non barnstar awards such as cool as cucomber belongs to a non barnstar page (other awards?). --<small>]<sup>]|]</sup></small> 16:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

==Renaming some barnstars==
First few barnstars are named rather plainly (Image:barnstar2 etc.) I say we rename these to something that follow some sort of a naming convention. --<small>]<sup>]|]</sup></small> 16:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds like a good idea. Do you have any suggestions for this? --<font style="background:gold">]]</font><sup><font style="background:yellow">]</font></sup> 15:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

==Music Barnstar==
I often spend most my time on music related articles and often see others who do the same and make spectacular edits and wanted to know if someone would please make a music barnstar given to those who make great and insightful contributions to music related articles. I realize they have a culture barnstar but this specialization I think is well worth it. Thanks ] 06:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

: Note, a very nice user by the name of ] showed me this page with proposals for the stars but could I get a consensus vote for a final decision on the stars or someone to post the various options on the project page in the topical sections? That would be much appreciated, Thank you ] 22:51, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

== E=mc2 barnstar ==
I would like to know why biology is a "hard science" but chemistry is not. Is this a mistake??] | ] - ] 03:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
* Why would you think it's not? The given list of sciences in the barnstar is not exhaustive by any means. &ndash; ]] 07:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

==Amazing==
All these Barnstars and nothing to award for plain, old fashioned good writing. Plenty of stuff for reverting vandalism, acting nice and other things, but nohing for producing brilliant prose. Sad. ] 02:56, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
*I completely agree that its very important to recognise the importance of quality writing in articles, but I wonder if we aren't overlooking the origins of the barnstar. The original barnstar says it "is given to recognise particularly fine contributions to Misplaced Pages". Although it may not be the case anymore, I would think that would have originally referred primarily to written contributions. All the category based awards also use this language of recognising "excellent contributions." Perhaps we just need some people to go around and conscientiously award these for writing.
*If you were to create a new barnstar, how would you word it in order to focus on written prose as different from existing ones that recognise "contributions"? ] 10:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
**Off the top of my head, something like a "golden quill" Barnstar would be appropriate. If you look at the standard Barnstar, there's a circle in the center. Color it black and insert a gold-colored quill emerging from the center. Or something like that (not going to get a Graphics Designer Barnstar here). ] 11:18, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
*There is ] and the the ]. If you feel strongly, take it to the proposal page! :-) --] 13:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:*Thanks for the note. The two you listed very well should include good writing, but not necessarily. The FA could be for formatting citations, the "Great Editing" is not really a Barnstar but directed toward edits in general (and could include deletions, which is not a form of "writing" per se). If you can have a Barnstar for template design, it would seem only sensible to single out one for well written prose. As to proposing a Barnstar, based on the feedback I have received, I don't believe it would be adopted. Good writing is not a quality that Misplaced Pages is anxious to reward. It's elitist and may be deemed offensive to contributors who do not have English as a primary language. ] 22:40, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== About barnstars ==

Can anyone give anyone else any barnstar? —] ]] ]] 00:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
:I think with the exception of a few, yes... barnstars are wikilove, meant to be handed out freely... or for minor kudos, you could give them a ]... - ] 04:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
== Barnstar help ==
]This '''Boricua''' Tireless Contributor Barnstar is presented to ..... for his/her continous work on ] related articles. Presented by ....]]
An editor awarded me a barnstar, but I can't figure out how to move it on my page. I just want to move it to the right side). Also, it is a star not listed on this page. ]'s Boricua barnstar isn't listed here either. What's the deal?--] 19:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
*I don't think I understand your question. --] 18:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:The first part of the question was just an issue of formatting, which I have figured out. The second part is about "official" and "unofficial" barnstars. I was wondering why Tony the Marine's barnstar (--->right) wasn't listed, but it seems that it is because it is just a modification of an existing barnstar (tireless contributor). I suppose I was just wondering if there is a process for officializing homemade barnstars or if unofficial ones should be listed somewhere in particular so that users know that they are not official....or if it even matters.--] 19:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
All stars listed on the Barnstar or Other Award page are supposed to be vetted by the community. Tony's image was just a modification, and not oficial. --] 19:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== {{tl|Award}} ==

Please see the ] of this tempalte relating to recent changes. ] <sup>]</sup><font color="#888888">/</font><sub>]</sub> 16:56, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
== Archiving - heads-up ==

Hi, you archived ] to ]. I believe it is inappropriate. Talkpages should have their own archives, such as ] etc. --] 02:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
*The talk pages were actually comprised of award discussions and proposals. All the moved discussions were very inactive. I made the move because most of the discussions were on proposals. Feel free to edit them as you see fit. ] 15:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
== "Earning" barnstars ==
Are there examples of this? e.g., the 'taskmaster barnstar' newly suggested here : ]. ]] 06:09, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
:It doesn't make sense; at least, it is not in tune with the spirit of barnstars, imo. Also,it kills the element of pleasant surprise. --] 17:26, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
==Barnstar and Award Proposal format Guidelines==
Please go here to comment, ]. ] 23:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== Personal User Awards aren't Proposals ==

I don't think that Personal User Awards should have to go through the process described in this project page since the awards listed in ] aren't proposals for new "official" awards. The nature of the Personal User Awards page is just to list awards created by individual wikipedians. I think it's in the best interest of the community if individual users are given the freedom to create whichever awards they desire and the PUA page remains just as a page where these awards are recorded so that the community knows they exist and thus be able to use them at will. The reason I bring this up is because there's right now a proposal at ] for approving or rejecting new PUA. <font color="violet">]</font> 06:06, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Personal user awards are a way for individuals to recognize other individuals in their own way. Voting on them would effectively make them community barnstars/awards.&#160;— ]] 06:19, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:I agree also. PUAs are informal, no vote necessary. --]]] ] 15:45, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
*I have nothing against the PUA Awards, I just think Barnstar, PUA and ORA pages need to be reorganized. I also think that the wikiproject related stars need to be moved of the PUA page.

:What I would also like to see is a more standardized format that the awards are placed on the page detailing the who, what where when and why of each of the awards. ] 15:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Old and new ==

I've been absent from this forum for a while. As I returned, I noticed (obviously), that decisions are being made by using a RfA-like "vote" (straw polling). But I'm not convinced that this method is the best one for this forum. I don't want to sound like the old guy who wants to bring back chariots and kerosene lamps, but used to be that we'd work on any given proposal via discussion, and only hold a vote when it started to drag for too long, possibly with too many options of images and names for any given award. This new format has the clear disadvantage of preventing an original idea from being "polished" until something usable is reached. I can't count how many times we had an original idea that maybe wasn't that good as first presented, but, with discussions and new perspectives, became a worthy award.<br>Now, an idea either is accepted or rejected, it seems. And this is inherent to this format: even though it doesn't prevent us from "running" with the original idea technically, that is the practical result it produces: the idea is either accepted or rejected, with a rationale, and in the end, it is either implemented or archived based on how much support/opposition it got.<br>

Particularly, I don't see a need for a support/oppose format when the number of users who participate regularly is relatively small; any given discussion usually involves less than ten users, so there seems to be no reason for us to start straw polling from the beginning. ] 03:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

*I don't think that the voting is the best way, but there seems to be a lack of interest in these pages as of late. Without adding bureaucratization, I think it would be great if there were avolunteer committee that would guide the proposals. --] 13:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
==Wikiprojects==
Someone just added the wikiprojects back on to the barnstar page. I will say what i saiad a while ago, we need to come up with standards and proposals for listing the wikiproject awards, especially after the conflict with the cricketeers. --] 17:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
:Hi, I'm that someone. I haven't been involved in this particular debate, so a concise statement of the issue would be helpful. When templates are used for userpage awards, including those from WikiProjects, issues that have come up around userboxes and templates in general on userpages also apply. That's why I was working on getting a more complete picture of templates applied to userpages. Totally deleting what I was doing and changing the page to a redirect doesn't cut it. For now, I won't link that subpage to the barnstars page to sidestep this issue. However, I am going to use it elsewhere. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:47, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
* I just reverted the page back to the redirect. There are no pages currently linked to that page. Before you go and break out the wikiproject awards, I think it should be discussed here. There was some complainst before about listing the wikiproject awards on the barnstar page because of the way they're developed and the number of awards involved. If you have other issues, we should discuss them here before you go and create any more pages. --] 18:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
**First of all, you are incorrect about other pages not linking to the contested page. Second of all, deliberately excluding content on a topic voliates ]. I'm not going to spend any more time on this unless it further interfers with the broader issue of ''all'' templates in userspace. I'll do what I'm working on a different way. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
*I think you need to calm down. Looking at the page, nothing links there. The stars you added to that page are already on the '''Other Award''' page. I'm hoping someone else will chime in here. --] 18:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
**I already moved what I was doing so it no longer shows up. Bye. ]<sup>]</sup> 19:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

==Forgotten proposed images?==
Check .--] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 16:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
*Nope, I donm't think they were ever proposed here. --] 19:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
==Archive ==
That means we should archive the ] so we can clear out some room. ] ] 19:41, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
*Where are the archives?] 14:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Renaming of awards ==

*To Zscout, Essjay or who may concern
:Many of the PUAs carry the name "Barnstar" because they're rejected barnstar proposals. If we keep this name, possible confusion will occur. Should we change the name of all awards carrying the name "barnstar" into something, like, award, or simply "star"? {{User:Deryck Chan/s1}} 10:23:09, 2005-09-07 (UTC)
*It seems like instruction creep to have a rigid bureaucracy governing the awards that users can give out, considering that awards can be given by anyone to anyone as often as desired. The way I see it, we have a specific set of "main" or "official" barnstars that go on ] and ], and the proposals page is to discuss if a new barnstar design is general enough to go become "official". Aside from those, people should be allowed to give any award they desire, barnstar or not. ] 03:20, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
**But I thought non-official awards should not be named "barnstar"s? {{User:Deryck Chan/s1}} 07:58:01, 2005-09-12 (UTC)
*I want to make a comment here. The Scouting Barnstar was proposed and developed as a barnstar. After a lot of talk and devleopment the placement was made on the page. Two users objected to the placement of the award on the barnstar page. After less than twelve hours debate, and to avoid a fight. One other user agreed to the placement of the award on the PUA page. I don't think the name Barnstar should be removed from the award.] 03:08, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
**However, initial concensus was drawn at the establishment of PUA that the name "barnstar" is never put into PUAs to avoid people from mixing up the PUAs with the actual, authorized barnstars, which represent higher honour. If the name "barnstar" is allowed in general PUAs everybody can create a "barnstar", which is unfavourable to the wikipedian community. ] 09:42, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
***Which is why I object to the removal of the star from the page and a unilateral decision being made by one or two users not involved with the project.] 03:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
**What I'd say, is that most maintainers of the PUA are active participants in BAP, and there is a majority concensus on both sides that when a barnstar proposal resulted in putting that "barnstar" into the PUA (which often means failure), the word "barnstar" is to be stripped and replaced with "star" or "award". ] 09:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
***Yes, but this wasn't a failed barnstar, and the decision to remove it was made by one user after the group had come to consensus.] 18:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
**Therefore the no "barnstar" rule should be observed, because a special-case violation to this rule was NOT proposed with the move. ] 09:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
***Huh? "Special case" violation? What rules are you referring to?] 14:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
**The rule that I'm referring to is the convention saying no award in PUA can take the name "barnstar". ] 07:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
===Scouting Star Redux===
Looking at the inconsistency of the way the stars are placed and awarded across all the wikis, I plan moving the Scouting Star back to the Barnstar page.] 14:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
== Workers' and Peasants' Award ==

I'm sure I've seen a people's proletarian award (tho' not barnstar), decorated with the hammer and sickle or similar. But it's not here, and now that I'm in the mood for awarding it (though with certain qualms, particularly as I've just spent a couple of weeks in what used to be the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic) I can't find it anywhere else, either. I'll award a plain ol' barnstar instead -- but can anyone jog my memory? -- ] 10:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

:Add anything here if you like... But I really can't help you if you forgot where does the thing come from! {{User:Deryck Chan/s1}} 08:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
==Award Standards==
As far as I can tell, the Star Wars Star has not been vetted, or gone through the approval process.] 18:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

:A standard does not exist, as far as I can tell. --]]]] 15:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

*As i said elsewhere, if we reorganize the page, and better label the awrds, I think it makes the whole barnstar and awards process fairer. ] 15:58, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

The process has never been unfair. Anybody can add things here. It has never been obligatory to put PUAs onto BAP to discuss. --]]]] 16:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
*Then why have a process for anything? Rather than risk having an award rejected, why doesn't everyone just creat a PUA.] 16:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Because they wanna take a try whether the award can be put onto the BS page instead of just on the PUA page. --]]]] 16:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== On the Nature of Personal User Awards... ==

Right now at ] there's a discussion going on for deciding which awards should be included in the Personal User Awards list. I think the idea of listing Personal User Awards is just to let the community know these awards exist so that anyone is free to give them to anyone else and that's it, as it says in the Misplaced Pages:Personal user awards article, "This page provides a collection of awards created by individual Wikipedians". If awards are created to encourage WikiLove I think users should have the liberty to create whichever awards they want and list them here as long as they aren't egregious. In my view, only the "official" barnstars listed in ] should go through a discussion and selection process. <font color="violet">]</font> 05:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:I'm really confused... I've never really examined this page before, and I always thought that a "personal user award" was a personal award created by a user. If I make an award and put it on a user subpage and award it to people, am I going to get in trouble? If I make one for a WikiProject, does it have to be "approved" first (given that it's not, in any way, shape, or form, a barnstar)? - ]] <sup>(] - ])</sup> 15:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
#No trouble ... the PUA page is just a collection of awards and things that didn't make the cut on the other pages.
#Any WikiPrject can creat its own award. To get it listed on the WikiProject page it has to get vetted.
--]&nbsp;<sup>(])</sup> 16:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks, that's helpful. Can any user award be added to the PUA page, or is it only for failed Barnstars and such? And what are the standards for a WikiProject award? I can't find information about that anywhere. - ]] <sup>(] - ])</sup> 23:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
*Anyone can add anything to the PUA page (within reason). We're working on the WP Award guidelines. --]&nbsp;<sup>(])</sup> 14:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== The Abusive Admin Award ==
I think the image of the The Abusive Admin Award is non NPOV. Why is the hammer and sickle there? ] 21:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
*Good question. --] 21:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I concur. ] implies (given that it prominently features the hammer and sickle) that ironfistedness and abusiveness is characteristic of Communism. From ], one can gather that the hammer and sickle are "symbols of the peasantry and the industrial proletariat; placing them together symbolises the unity between agricultural and industrial workers." I do not see how this relates to the ] It is misleading and reflects poorly of the Misplaced Pages ethos of accuracy and informed learning. I propose that this barnstar be either be replaced or modified to incorporate a more appropriate design. ] 15:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::The hammer and sickle is there to play on the joke that Misplaced Pages=Communism and several of the admin abuse images/awards/userboxes/whatever has a communist feel to it. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 09:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

==Certain and uncertain elephant awards==
]
These awards are put forward in bad faith and with a lack of ]. The second one has been awarded to everyone, including the nominator and the admin who closed the discussion, involved in the discussion at Afd that resulted in deletion of a work of original research called the "Certain principle". The first one has only been awarded to the author of that article. They should be deleted and the author warned by a neutral admin to stop being a ]. I am not neutral (nor an admin) as I received this award for helping to delete that article. --] 22:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
*Is it really an award? --] 04:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
**Strikes me as more of a disparagement. I'd certainly take it that way unless it was awarded by a very good friend in a joking manner. The whole essay strikes me as disparaging, in fact. Could be I am a stick in the mud though. Unfortunately I am already not neutral enough to give out the warning that Bduke suggests, but I agree with its needfulness. '''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font>''']: ]/] 15:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

== Biography Barnstar? ==

Hola, could someone tell me if there is an award for people who make great contributions to biographies? <font color="violet">]</font> 22:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
*Biographies are liteartue, therefore, ''The Barnstar of High Culture ''--] 14:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

What happened to it? I come back from a wikibreak to find this happening to a award I made?!?!?! What happened to ] too? <font color="Orange">]</font> <font color="Orange">]</font> 01:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
*Hola, I remember seen it had been removed because using the pic of the dog was against copyright or fair use. <font color="violet">]</font> 02:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
*I think it was deleted in the last two days. --] 06:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wikipresent ==

Could someone please make another version of the Wikipresent? I like the idea but it's not aesthetically pleasant.<font color="violet">]</font> 03:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

== Can anybody create a new awards? ==

I was wondering if i ould create a new award or dose it have to be approved first or something like that {{unsigned|Lucy-marie}}
*Since these awards are "personal", it means anyone can make one.<font color="violet">]</font> 02:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
**Within reason. --] 16:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

=== How do you create an a award? ===

How do you creat an award? --{{unsigned|Lucy-marie}}
:'Do it yourself', in essence :) --] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 15:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== CanCon Award - a Barnstar? ==
Barnstar of National Merit has many , but not a Canadian one (yet). Why should we not transform the CanCon into the Canadian Barnstar of National Merit?--] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 15:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
*I think it is a wikiproject award. --] 15:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

==facelift==
tonight im doing a major wikification of ] page.] 03:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
*Okay. I did some work on it this afternoon. ] 17:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
**Good job man. i'm going to try to add to the sections, as they arent nearly large enough. I think theres more we can say. ] 18:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

==Honours Page ==
It seems to me that that page is underutilized, and has been taken over by developments on the barnstar related pages. ] 17:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:While the honours page is underutilized, please understand that it applies to Wikimedia as a whole, and not just to Misplaced Pages. Also, the honours system encompasses naming a day in the name of a developer by ] himself, etc. So, I am against the merger. Also, that page has more history and more contributors - so, if at all the merger has to take place, it should be in the reverse direction. However, as ] noted elsewhere, the system of awards is different on different wikis and hence I am against the reverse merger as well. ] page has been a good start by ] of classifying Misplaced Pages awards, and I'd like the page to remain here without any mergers. --] 09:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
*maybe we could get Jimbo to comment? ] 21:02, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


== Misplaced Pages Awards ==

Misplaced Pages already has an "award", (the Featured Article ), but it does not have specific awards. For example, say there's and article on Elephants and one on tigers. Lets suppose the one on tigers is more informative and detailed than the one on elephants. Giving the Tiger article a Featured Article is giving it regignition, but not content specfic. There could be and award for nature, which the tiger artcle could recive, or prehapes one on animals etc.

I am compiling a list of possible award subjects. Please feel free to add any which are not there and which you think should be there.

Animals,
Nature,
Universe,
Cars,
History (B.C. and A.D.),
Solar System,
Particles,
Minerals,
Misc.

If you agree that there should be WikiAwards, please contact a Misplaced Pages editor/official.

Refrences:

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See Also:
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==Award templates==

What's the difference between award and barnstar templates? I don't see any... shouldn't they be merged?--] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 16:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
*I think it's the same. --] 19:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== Major overhaul ==
Please see ].--] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 20:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== Question ==
Can one assign a Barnstar to one's self? :-D --]<sup>]</sup> 01:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but it is '''''HIGHLY''''' unethical. ][[user talk:GangstaEB|
<font color=orange>s</font>]]]]• ]) 01:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I know, that's why I added the :-D at the end of the question but also wanted to make sure. Thanks.--]<sup>]</sup> 01:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

*That's what the milk cartoon is for, --] 02:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


=== And another question ===

I wanted to edit this page, to change

:Elements of this award were suggested by EWS23 and Covington, and was designed by The Man in Question.

to

:Elements of this award were suggested by EWS23 and Covington; it was designed by The Man in Question.

which seems, to me, to be more gramatically correct. But I couldn't work out how to do it. That entire list of barnstars seems to be created from a template, and I don't have a notion how to edit templates. Could someone else please do it for me, and perhaps, on my talk page, offer me directions on how to do it myself in the future. I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere you could point me to.

Thanks.

] 15:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

*Go to this page ] --] 15:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Thanks. Done. ] 16:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== How do you ward awards? ==

I am having difficulty In figuring out how to give out my awards please can you point me In the right direction.--] 23:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
*Look on your talk page. --] 02:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

==What's the Highest-Ranking Misplaced Pages Award?==

Just out of curiosity, I was interested in the "rank" of Misplaced Pages awards. High schools have a class valectorian; colleges elect Phi Beta Kappas; the U.S. military has the Medal of Honor, and so on. ] 04:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
*I don't think there is a 'highest' award, but there seems to be a natural progression, the Barnstars are more prestigious than the wikiproject awards and the Other Awards, which are both more valuable than the PUA's. I say that only because it takes more to created some awards. However, what an individual values may have nothing to do with the arbitrary ranks we may give them. --] 15:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
::There is no barnstar that is higher than the other; we generally list them by creation date, and that is how I display them on my userpage. Others display them by when they got them, so it is not a hard, fast rule. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 07:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== The Barnstar of Liberty ==
It doesn't have a functional template. is it an improperly placed barnstar, or was no template designed for it? --] (]) 16:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==Barnstar Award==
{{award2|image=WMBarnstar.png|size=100px|topic=The Working Man's Barnstar|text=For tirelessly improving ichthyology articles, including correcting quite a few of my own formatting errors. ] <sup>] · ] · <font color="green">]</font></sup> 17:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC) }}

== Who says what awards are aceptable for use on wikipedia? ==

Who has the right to say no to certian awards they do not like on the award page when somone else thinks the award is apropriate. I am saying this as I can no longer find the award I added.--] 20:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
*The system is suppoed to work by consensus. What award are you referring to? --] 20:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)<BR>
**The --] 12:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
*Ah yes, people took that one down because it was not seen as ] or as promoting ]. --] 13:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
**I would like to know what people thought of removing the award wiyth out first consulting the person who created the award to find out about the circumstances the award was created under.--] 13:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
*Look, even ], your contribution was not in line with the rest of the page. They probably saw your move as a that of a crank and just made the revert without confronting you. If you really want to have the award, post it to the proposal page and see what everyone thinks. --] 13:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

== Peacekeeper barnstar ==

Anybody consider a barnstar for people who calm volitile situations or mediate disputes? ] 19:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

*That's the ]. --] 19:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Close but no cigar, while peace keeping does require patience, patience alone is not enough. ] 20:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
*Well, I believe that since no 'volitile' situations exist here, that will have to do ... --]

Interesting opinion, I would like to hear some others aswell. ] 21:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
*You do realize I was kidding you about ] situations? --] 21:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

LOL, I must be getting tired, I thought you were serious. I was thinking, just be polite... ] 21:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

==Barnstar recipients== ==Barnstar recipients==
Is there a page or category that displays a list of editors who have received a particular type of barnstar?--] 00:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC) Is there a page or category that displays a list of editors who have received a particular type of barnstar?--] 00:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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Barnstar recipients

Is there a page or category that displays a list of editors who have received a particular type of barnstar?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 00:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Added to my watchlist

Now that I've added this page to my watchlist (I only had the main page, not the new proposals subpage), I hope to add to more of my humble opinions than I did before. :-) --Deathphoenix ʕ 20:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar: Gender and Class

Why is this called "The Working Man's Barnstar? Surely a gender-neutral title would be a simple and less anachronistic choice. I would suggest that the name of this award would be far less shrill to non-patriarchal ears if it were updated to "The Worker's Barnstar" or "The Labourer's Barnstar" or something along those lines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.25.152.165 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I definitely agree with you on that. There are lots of women working on Misplaced Pages as well, and I do a lot of spelling/grammar corrections--hard work for the nit-picker, and I don't want to be called a working MAN, because I'm not a man!--Snowgrouse 18:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar etiquette?

I've just received my first barnstar, and I'm alarmed and confused. I don't know how to respond, or what to do with it. Main questions:

1. What to say to the person who awarded it? I thanked them briefly on their user page, after a delay of some hours because I felt shy. 2. Should I leave it exactly where and as it is? When I archive my talk page should I archive it, or would that be rude? Or would it be ostentatious NOT to archive it? Should I put it on my userpage? If I put it on my userpage, should I put the text and signature of the awarder next to it?

Help! I don't want to be obnoxious! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.46.167 (talk • contribs)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 13:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Feature Article Barnstar

There should be a barnstar for users whose contribution lead to that article becoming a featured article. 142.35.144.2 00:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Everyone saying there is such an award has redlinks to that award, suggesting it has either been deleted or does not exist.

Categories

It would be useful to see who has been granted by an award. For example, i would like to see who has the translator barnstar if i need help with something in another language

Giving Out Barnstars

Do you have to be an administrator to give out Barnstars? WereWolf 16:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC) No. Dev920 (Mind voting here?) 18:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

No...Anyone can just a word of advice don't give them to every single person you come across or they won't be special anymore.--Seadog 02:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Idea

I mean should there be an award given out to IPs for acknowlegement of their effort? Seems fitting as there are many IPs out there worthy. Simply south 18:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

It is a person who does not have a username (in this case) so they when they edit, their edit is usually recorded under a number, or IP address, a sort of electronic address of a person's computer. For example 123.345.64.941 (i made that up on the spot but it may well exist). Simply south 19:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

--evrik  19:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

But how about IPs who have had a long history and are known to be under that IP only? Simply south 20:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I was proposing because it is well kown that not all IPs are vandals although some decent ones are treated like this.

Here is another idea although this one is probably less serious and more ridiculous but lets see. An award for people handing out deserving awards? Simply south 20:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

:)


Random Smiley Award Project

This isn't a proposal, but is nevertheless a related request for volunteers to help with an existing project.

For the last two weeks, I've been doling out Random Smiley Awards as a "thank you" for routine contribution - a variation on the Random Acts of Kindness philosophy, except in the form of those yellow "Have A Nice Day" smileys. The response so far has been very positive: many editors are grateful for a little pat on the back like this.

If anyone is willing to help take part in the project, please go to User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward and scroll down to see the list of variant templates which you can place on User or User:Talk pages, including a new Chocolate Chip Cookie Smiley - with chocolate chips forming the familiar face, this time on a cookie. This would work especially well for those who are allergic to the "Have A Nice Day" concept as a result of overexposure during the 1970s.

Thus far I've been doling them out to randomly-picked editors, usually by starting with one user and then picking one of the recent people who have edited that person's talk page, then repeating the process. Any other random or pseudorandom method would work.

If several volunteers each add 5 - 10 Smileys per day, before long Misplaced Pages will be teaming with the bright yellow faces. It will be a happier, sunnier place in which to work.

The template codes for the various current types of Smileys are as follows (pick one):

  • {{User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward1}}
  • {{User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward2}}
  • {{User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward3}}
  • {{User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward4}}
  • {{User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward5}}

Heartfelt thanks to those who are willing to help out. Pedia-I 17:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Discussion award

There is\are the award(s) for contributing to the mainspace of articles and therefore they show that the use has, for example, been a tireles contributor to articles generally. Why not have a barnstar for general use for people who have discussed ideas etc on talk pages, generally article ones but possibly also include uuser talk pages as well...? At certain times many editors say that others are doing okay but they are not discussing enough. What do you think?

Seperately, is there a copyright on the Original Barnstar? Also is there a programme for designing barnstars or will Publisher and Paint suffice?

Simply south 15:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


Esperanza Star Typo

In the section Esperanza star, Organization looks like it's spelled wrong. If you get the chance, please fix it because my computer's gone funny and I can't edit that particular section.Duinemerwen 03:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Coordinator

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