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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''merge''' ] to ] and ]<br/>and ] the nominator <span class="template-ping">@]</span> for yet another nomination where the a category list says delete but the rationale says "upmerge", and no merge targets are listed. It's really v v easyto use ] to create a nomination which actually says "merge Cat:X to Cat:Y" ... and wilfully failing to do so deprives CFD participants of a clear summary of the effect of the proposal. --] <small>] • (])</small> 21:32, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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:'''Nominator's rationale:''' /''Upmerege''' to both parents. There is no scheme of ] nor ]--this is just a one-off triple intersection. ―]<span style="color:red">❤]☮]☺]☯</span> 00:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC) :'''Nominator's rationale:''' /''Upmerege''' to both parents. There is no scheme of ] nor ]--this is just a one-off triple intersection. ―]<span style="color:red">❤]☮]☺]☯</span> 00:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Upmerge''' per nom for consistency. One-off categories aren't helpful; they need to be consistent with the overall scheme to be useful. ]&thinsp;<span style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(45deg);position:relative;bottom:-.57em;">]</span> 17:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC) *'''Upmerge''' per nom for consistency. One-off categories aren't helpful; they need to be consistent with the overall scheme to be useful. ]&thinsp;<span style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(45deg);position:relative;bottom:-.57em;">]</span> 17:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Juan Carlos I of Spain

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The result of the discussion was: keep. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:13, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Only four articles other than the main one--too few for an eponymous category. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:45, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:English-language film directors

Catholic feminists

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The result of the discussion was: keep. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:16, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
*Merge Category:Roman Catholic feminists to Category:Catholic feminists
  • Nominator's rationale The article Catholic Church refers to the Roman Catholic Church. If I had to do a common usage analysis I could also show that the term "Catholic feminist" refers specifically to feminists who are or were members of The Roman Catholic Church. Since the Eastern Catholic Churches are part of the same broad organization their inclusion makes sense. It does not make sense to use this as a shared name category, especially since that would go against the common use of the term.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Eastern and Orthodox Catholic churches have their own Patriarchs and do not (necessarily) recognise the authority of the Roman Catholic Pope. There are independent Catholics and other Catholics not in communion with Rome. So the category system works just fine as it is with the distinctions in place. Bastun 22:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as an inappropriate intersection per WP:EGRS, unless it can be demonstrated that Catholic feminism is a notable topic in its own right. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:31, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose merging as explained by Bastun, Eastern and Roman are quite distinct. In addition, religion & feminism is a VERY significant intersection, so entirely appropriate. Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:45, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Catholics

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The result of the discussion was: keep. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
  • Merge Category:Roman Catholics to Category:Catholics, but purge things not under the hierarchy of the Catholic Church
  • Nominator's rationale This ends up being categorization by shared name. This is linking Category:Roman Catholics which per our article belong to the Catholic Church, Eastern Catholics, who also institutionally affiliate with the Catholic Church, Old Catholics, who do not belong to this church and in real practice just have a shared name, and possibly some other people who belong to churches that use Catholic in their name. With Catholic Church being the accepted common name for the Church headed by the Pope, we should change the organization, so that all current Roman Catholic categories reflect our common usage decisions and just use Catholic, any needed Eastern Catholic categories are linked as sub-cats of this new Catholic category structure, and the Old Catholic articles are not linked to a general notion of Catholicism at all. With Catholic Church being the article on the Catholic Church, Catholics should be an limited to members of this church. This includes Eastern Catholics, and excludes Old Catholics, Liberal Catholics, and other dissident and non-connected movements.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - it is not categorisation by shared name. Catholic Church until recently was about various churches which consider themselves 'catholic'. Of course Old Catholics, Liberal Catholics etc are catholics, whatever our article titles might be. Oculi (talk) 19:49, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Alt rename to Category:Members of the Catholic Church. We will need two layers anyway, for people who are and who aren't a member of the Catholic Church, but in the spirit of WP:C2C we can name the Catholic Church members category after the main article Catholic Church. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Eastern and Orthodox Catholic churches have their own Patriarchs and do not (necessarily) recognise the authority of the Roman Catholic Pope. There are independent Catholics and other Catholics not in communion with Rome. So the category system works just fine as it is with the distinctions in place. Bastun 22:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per arguments of Oculi and Bastun. This proposal is completely misguided. Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:57, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose More than one church follows Catholicity and they often dismiss the Popes as heretics/schismatics. Dimadick (talk) 14:53, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm not sure, but in accordance with stable structure as reported by for instance User:Grabado/List, "Roman Catholic" now seems to mean things pertaing to the Category:Latin Church in the category tree, doesn't it? PPEMES (talk) 14:05, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
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Video censorship in China

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: I did some cleanup - there is no 'video censorship' tree - creating / populating televisionan and film censorship in China categories. This one is now empty and can be retired. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:!Userboxes about political sytems, partys and political causes

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:Political user templates. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 15:46, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Fauna of Eurasia

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: This category (which was created by a now-blocked editor and currently contains just 2 articles) is an unnecessary category layer - if a species is present in both  Europe and Asia then it's article can be (and usually is) placed in both Category:Fauna of Europe and Category:Fauna of Asia.  Note: Both articles in this category are already in categories such as Category:Carnivorans of Asia so no merging is needed. DexDor 12:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Lynching deaths in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Anomalous+0 (talk) 14:21, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Redundant, as Category:Lynching victims in the United States covers the same ground (and more). Never mind. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Midwestern Intercollegiate Volleyball Association

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (Talk) 21:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: IMHO, it's redundant to include the phrase "volleyball seasons" when the conference explicitly includes "Volleyball" in its name, and has sponsored only men's volleyball throughout its history. — Dale Arnett (talk) 08:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Infinite Zero compilation albums

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Category:Infinite Zero albums was just recently deleted per CfD and this one should be deleted for the same reasons. It's a reissue label and the label of an album being re-issued is a non-defining quality of that album. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars 08:23, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Anne Hathaway

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: This one seems to be a bit WP:OCEPON for just a couple of list articles in addition to the main article. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars 08:13, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Tom Brady

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Tom is notable, but hardly a category. He's no Abraham Lincoln. Tarl N. (discuss) 02:57, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Then what do you have to say about Brett Favre or Walter Payton having their own categories? Or other noteworthy athletes like Wayne Gretzky, Babe Ruth, or Michael Jordan shouldn't have their own categories since they aren't "heads of state" (that's apples and oranges). And of course, an American president and his administration is all but guaranteed to have his own category, it isn't an "exception to the rule" so to speak. BornonJune8 (talk) 05:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Wrong Standard WP:OCEPON does not require Abraham Lincoln level of importance. The standard is having enough articles to aid navigation actually defined by the person and not just a loose association. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:28, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

The later may be speculative (unlike say, the Tuck Rule Game or Deflategate), but how isn't List of New England Patriots starting quarterbacks not defined by Tom Brady, when that's for all intents and purposes, literally what he does or is? BornonJune8 (talk) 06:17, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
The list of QBs includes Brady, but Brady does not define that list. A category should be a container of things defined by the subject. Tarl N. (discuss) 15:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
If we went in that direction, that list article could be categorized by every person on it. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
@RevelationDirect: You left out the Tuck Rule Game. BornonJune8 (talk) 07:15, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
I reread it and agree: it is defined by Brady and that's a 5th article. Keep But Purge RevelationDirect (talk) 03:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:American Jewish conservatives ====

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:American Jewish conservatives to Category:American Jews and Category:American conservative people
and WP:TROUT the nominator @Koavf for yet another nomination where the a category list says delete but the rationale says "upmerge", and no merge targets are listed. It's really v v easyto use WP:TWINKLE to create a nomination which actually says "merge Cat:X to Cat:Y" ... and wilfully failing to do so deprives CFD participants of a clear summary of the effect of the proposal. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:32, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
'Nominator's rationale: /Upmerege to both parents. There is no scheme of Category:American Jews by political persuasion nor Category:American conservatives by ethnicity--this is just a one-off triple intersection. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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